TurboGenius Turbo, do you remember the discussion on how to select the repeat?

What Nathan does is called tongue and cheek. He goes for satire and irony. I like Nathan, we've always gotten along. As time goes on you won't like me at all, you probably already don't. Gambling forums are strange places, expecting people to act normally ain't going to happen.

 

Tbh I found no issues with your posts.
I do read them you know.

I have zero issues with other members opinion no matter how negative they may be, none whatsoever.
Disagree is a normal thing.

There are a list of members who as adults cross the line to childish disruptive posting in an adult forum..
I can post the list of these members here, and I can be sure many members agree with this list.

SirAnyone is not the problem.

The members who condone and support his childish disruptive behaviour is the real problem.

 

Didn't you reply to me about avoiding any kind of Roulette except B&M real tables? I remember you explicitly told me that "it's all about exploiting a physical wheel".

 

The problem with rng roulette is the quality of the spin.
Someone hosted a thread to discuss this issue.

I can't be 100% certain that rng roulette is provably fair.
That's why I stick to physical wheel.

If your question is whether the AP of "face up poker" roulette has similarity to traditional AP, then my answer is probably yes.

 

As a naysayer which I am,

there's ZERO possibility to win itlr if the systems player does not change the accuracy of his betselection with some quantified rules based strategy.

Skill in guessing, discretionary non-quantified decision making, negative progression does not constitute a positive edge that overcome the house edge.

You may disagree with me.

This is my position.

 

Right. Law of the third, birthday problem, negative progressions and patterns are where it's at. Real cutting edge stuff!

There aren't any specific conditions (patterns in past spins) which give higher probability for the next outcome. That's what independence means.

 

That was me.

Again, I remember you said that "It's all about exploiting a physical wheel". So you must believe that something is significantly different in terms of random outcomes between real wheels and RNG... It doesn't matter, just wanted to note what I remembered.

Umm... About the face-up poker, in many situations you find yourself betting on the river...

Let's say you and I are playing face-up poker. We both have shit hands, even after the flop and the turn, we got nothing (no match). The river has the highest probability of turning the whole round into something, a pair (a match), since it has the most options for a match (revealed cards).

The problem is, in Roulette betting for that match on "river" is expensive, not cost-effective, and simply negative EV. Isn't it?

 

I'm sure it seems that way to you because, by your own admission, you don't understand the math. The proof that you can't win applies to ALL systems. There are no footnotes or clauses that say if you're not betting randomly, or you're "reading randomness", then the proof doesn't apply. The proof is only concerned with what all systems have in common, which is why it covers all of them.

 

I may have not explained it clearly.

You are ALWAYS betting on the river.

The advantage of roulette is you don't have to play if you have shit cards.

You chose to play when you have say high pair and your opponent have shit cards, then bet on the river with the odds advantage that your opponent won't improve his hand hitting a better pair.

Imagine if this is the face up poker game, can you see the advantage?

 

The real problem is you guys are not spending time thinking how to devise such a river bet given the known probability.

I repeat umpteen times, this is a major hurdle in understanding.

 

In this case, after a pair (match), why should the river have a higher probability of keeping me the hand leader and my opponent the loser? In poker, we have "better pairs", in Roulette we have events. There are no better "matches" in Roulette. Betting for my opponent doesn't get a better hand than mine (betting against the event of "matching") is probably another -EV strategy. I have tested betting against events, matches, cycle lengths, repeats, etc. All ended -EV over the long run.

 

Exactly. There are no "shit" numbers in roulette, unlike hands in poker. All "hands" in roulette are equally good, or bad. That's what independence means. LF still doesn't get it.

 

I just wrote the post above.

If you can figure the answer to your question which is the spot on correct key question,

then you get to play face up poker roulette on the river.

That's why face up poker roulette bet on the "river" spin.

If I showed you, you will be kicking your arse. Lol

 

I thought this is a civil conversation for a second. I got in your trap again. You and your underlined bold narcissism. Pardon me, I'm out. I'm too young to tolerate this kind of tone.

 

I tried umpteen times to point to understanding is the real problem.

If you find highlighting the key understanding problem narcissistic tell me how else can I tell you in a more polite and civil way?

 

This is the explanation of the probability.

There are 23 people in the room given number tags from #1 to #23.

Lets take person1.

The probability of his birthday is 1/365.
The same probability as the rest of the 23 people in the room, 1/365

The probability of 2 persons out of this 23 people to share the same birthday is 50.729%

The probability depends on the question you ask.

 

.. maintaining the last fringes of sanity

or better, not touch & go but, release & touch .. again.

 

I think you make inside bet or direct number bet.

I follow your post say outside bet is a loser.

CMIIW. Thanks

 

Earlier, Jefra asked me this same question about inside bets.

Whether the gambler play inside or outside bets, if he does not improve the accuracy of his bets it's a loser.
That's the math.

 

The math has nothing to do with anything. Unless you're a math worshiper.