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TurboGenius Informational : What are your chances of winning ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Aug 16, 2020.

  1. CarloDarlo

    CarloDarlo Active Member

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    Come on turbo we need more then a single cycling of the numbers to off here...

    All that is being demonstrated is the Law of Averages. If something hasnt showed up in X amount of spins it is "due" to show up and exceed the the short term expectations to meet long term expectations.

    Waiting for sleepers and repeaters for X amount of spins isnt enough to go off..
     
  2. Denzie

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    How about putting a progression on it :)
     
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  3. Denzie

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    How big of a difference it would be if we wait a virtual first spin in our new cycle and then play that number? ( this is a possible repeater)

    How big of a difference it would be if we wait till a first 2x and use that number in our new cycle?

    How big of a difference it would be if we played the top number instead of a random chosen one ? ( as shown above start at 0 and end at 36)

    Would it be the same charts or would it change slightly ? Would we need to play 100 cycles to get in profit ?

    Food for thoughts
    A Happy one :)
     
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  4. Rinad

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    here is something I can depend on that wins more often then 2 out of 3 trials. take a long time sleeper that was a hot number before it went to sleep. wait for it to wake up.
    then bet it for a full cycle . see how it bounces back with usually more then one hit . keep track how these numbers behave . they hit more then 2 out of 3 times . sometime they lose yes, but long term they always do well.
    why would they ? they have to in order to comeback into "balance".
    someone may argue; that is fallacy !
    no its not, it is just the way every number behave in general. they rarely go.........37 spins,Bang !.........37 spins,Bang!.......37 spins,Bang! .....
    more so; ....hit......hit..hit........37spins.....................................70spins.....hit...hit.........37spins...............................110spins(nothing)..............hit....hit....hit.....37 spins........that is the way the cookie crumbles.
    Happy New Year !
     
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  5. Denzie

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    You're damn right ! But waiting and tracking is a waste of time. The progression ( this part most cats can't seem to grasp) takes care of business on that part. Maybe they should think in which way can we add a possitive progression to come ahead and "survive" those gaps . Putting more and more money on a win is good till those gaps appear. And bye bye profit. So how to handle that ? Maybe some cats should rethink what a positive progression is or could be...........

    I did a funny thread: one hitter quitters....I put it out here for people to play it. And they'll probably notice how easily it wins .......till it doesn't......how to fix that bug? ............solve that and you solve TG,'s riddles.....grins :asshat:
     
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  6. Ka2

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    Denzie with all respect. But i believe you said you are not able to program. So how did you test this?
     
  7. Denzie

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    1.. I said I'm not a good programmer but I do know some basics which I use in rx . It goes way back when celescliff suggested I should learn a code language....which I did . ( I also let some base programs pre-coded so I could do the rest ).

    2...this way of betting isn't to hard at all....still most can't seem to grasp it

    3...I send you some base for the method but you never got back to me right ? Of course in my defense I'm not gonna just tell the A to Z steps without I'm seeing you're actually legit. ( you have no idea how many send me emails to code ....not 186 DC falsely claims...he's BS). Honestly I've already got the results of the base method ;)

    4...happy New Year noorderbuur :)
     
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  8. Spider

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    thank you Denzie for giving me food for thought!
     
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  9. Ka2

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    Excellent you got it coded then :)

    We were talking a bit through email correct, I looked at your idea briefly and I did a few tests in the following weeks. Couldn't find an edge so I stopped programming it further. I've havent heard from you since then too, so I thought you were not interested any more lol

    Happy New Year to you too! And Everybody Else!!!
     
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  10. Denzie

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    As you're a programmer, you could for example run these flat-betting cycles from this thread too...let's say a 100 times ( I suggest you choose a way to pick your numbers the same way each time ).......then take a look at those sessions/charts.....then think how to bet so you would win each session ....(yes , you certainly can )

    If you have that answer....you could use it in other methods which don't require 1000's of spins :)

    You'll figure it out though, I'm sure
     
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  11. Ka2

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    Thanks will do! I'm still testing a lot of other ideas as well. Working on something now that looks promising but time will tell.
     
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    First approach: Hit = Black
    Row: 37 Numbers 0,1,2,....36
    Columns: 100 random cycles
     

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  13. Ka2

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    I tried this qr code and it send me to some vague porn siteā€¦
     
  14. Gigi666

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    Isn't the problem with using progressions that, unless you add it to a method/system that wins flat and you know the average and min/max drawdowns or number of spins that you don't win, it can only magnify your losses without relatively improving the wins since you require higher bankrolls for these?
     
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  15. Denzie

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    Exactly....well said ;)
     
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    So maybe look towards running a game the same time over and over flat to learn what the max drawdown would be.

    Example: running a 3 column game we know normally there will be X numbers in a 10x game? Like turbo had around 11 numbers in a 20x game?
     
  17. Ka2

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    I agree, for example if you know it never goes beyond 100 spins then you would not win with flatbet but with a small progression
     
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  18. Denzie

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    Unless you'll wait it out :)
     
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    Very smart comment :)
     
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  20. Gigi666

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    The problem as usual is how many test runs is enough? 100 sessions - 10000?
    Plus the bigger issue is to know whether you're doing it with correct method.
     
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