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Baccarat 5 column statistics

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by violater777, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    I think it is actually 3 or more then 3 then 2 betting for the triangle or wedge to terminate at one. So 3-3-2 would work also.
     
  2. fathead

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    That lost money. It was slightly above 50% but not enough to make money.
     
  3. soxfan

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    The fathead right, unfortunate, I test this style previous and it burns and crash hard around the 450 shoe marks. To me this is just more positive proofs that you should never run any style what call for you to wager on players side of the equations, hey hey.
     
  4. soxfan

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    The fathead right, unfortunate, I test this style previous and it burns and crash hard around the 450 shoe marks. To me this is just more positive proofs that you should never run any style what call for you to wager on players side of the equations, hey hey.
     
  5. violater777

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    Dang. That sucks. Did you test the trigger or the trigger and streaks?
     
  6. fathead

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    Both lost money, I am afraid.
     
  7. violater777

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    So the Descending triangle is a pattern of 3 or more, a pattern of 3, then a pattern of 2, then bet Bank 1 time only? Could you bet Player in a reversal?
    When you were playing online, which variation were you playing betting against the chop sequence?
     

  8. violater777

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    Also, what are the percentages on the descending triangle against your data?
    Thanks.
     
  9. fathead

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    The Player side loses money. 52.64% winning on the Banker side.

    PBPBP bet P. The first bet is the strongest but betting once more for either a BP breakeven or BB loss works also.
     
  10. Jacky

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    Are you still doing well with this?
     
  11. Jacky

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    One more question are you playing flat or marty.
     
  12. fathead

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    It did pretty well when I was betting it (flat betting). I have been betting some other games and methods the last few weeks, sidetracked with other ideas.
     
  13. violater777

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    Hey Fathead,
    I know this method lost money flat betting, but what about betting with a positive progression. Chip up on a win. If the win percentage is over 50%, it should be in the black. It would be nice to find something to pair the 1,2,4 method with, lol.
     
  14. fathead

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    I am afraid it still lost money with the positive progression.
     

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    When you run a simulation of an idea, how many do you usually do? Working on something but doing it by hand and it's taking forever.
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

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    Dont be shy go 3 2 1 .

    Play at your own risk
     
  17. fathead

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    I have 4062 live shoes that I have collected from various sources over the years. I code the idea up on the computer and run the simulation on those shoes. The more shoes the better.
     
  18. fathead

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    The Violater Player Bet continues to win. P B P B P bet P.

    I noticed this image online today and saw 6 opportunities in these 3 shoes. Five wins and one loss. Your mileage may vary. :)

    Violator Player Bet at Work.png
     
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  19. porky

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    OK, for anyone interested in this here goes.

    Seeking out a winning pattern is not going to happen for or against.

    BUT, this is a fifty fifty game. So every play at some point in time HAS to resolve itself to fifty fifty.

    Problem is you don't know when.

    IF you truly are interested in this type of play.

    PICK a number of plays and track them.

    They will hit constantly. Not at all. Or in chop pattern like anything else. After pointing this out years ago a player online built his entire game around this. Problem for me is down time. He would sit sometimes through multiple shoes waiting for what he began to call the correction. If some thing got way behind he would look for it to return and when it reared its head jump on.

    One of his plays for instance was if a side had two singles. When it hit again he would go the other way. Now I don't know if he was looking for one or two or multiple continuing single but you could track for either. He also said a number of times he would drop plays and bring others back.

    So repeating singles. Repeating doubles. Connected multiples. Dominant side. I'll add in two one two. Multiple three or more with one or two on the other side look for the first set to repeat. There's a lot more of course like what your talking about with four chops then a follow. And your four in a row with a chop. You could track that by the way strictly for one side or both together. It really doesn't matter because the fictitious banker edge will not affect anyones play one way or another.

    The thing is this is very time consuming. I guess if you played at home it could be more manageable.

    That's two cents worth good luck.....
     
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  20. Jimske

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    Yeah I know I guess I'm not interested in that kind of play I'll stick with what I have. I am thinking about going online and playing some. I'm getting tired of going to the casino all the time. I just don't know which one to pick four hand delivered games available. Suggestions? I know people have mentioned some before but I really haven't paid attention to those.
     

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