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Casino Does Your State Have Legalized Online Gambling

Discussion in 'Casino Forum' started by SPIKE, Nov 30, 2021.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    I live in Michigan and legalized gambling online
    went into effect in January of this year. But we
    didn't get live dealers until July. I started playing
    roulette the first week of September. I'm curious
    if the state you live in has legalized online gambling
    what your experiences with it is. For instance, we
    have 11 or 12 online casinos and every one of them
    uses Evolution Gaming for their live table platform.
    This is really boring because they all use the same
    roulette wheel for every casino. I read that Playtech's
    live games are coming here but they're taking their
    sweet time about it. What has your experience been
    if you live in a state with legalized online gambling.
    I absolutely love it, I might not ever go to a
    brick-and-mortar casino again. And when Playtech gets
    here I will love it even more. Why aren't more states
    doing this, it's already brought millions and millions of
    dollars into the State Treasury. It's a cash cow, how
    can the poorer states pass it up.
     
  2. TwoUp

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    I live in Australia, online sports betting is huge but they don't license online casino style gambling.

    Online casinos are not permitted to target advertising or provide services to Australian residents but there is no law stopping an individual using an online casino. Given the Australian law has no power in a foreign jurisdiction it's business as usual. And it means more people are at risk of using shady sites and getting ripped off instead of having strict licenses to operate.
     
  3. SPIKE

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    In Michigan the laws are very strict and you have avenues you can pursue if you have a legitimate complaint against a casino. The best part is the funding. All the Michigan casinos take PayPal. It's like a dream come true. No Bitcoin, no rejecting your credit card, just buy in or cash out with PayPal. It's wonderful.
     
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    I live in a state that does not offer it but also does not restrict it. They still want their taxes on winnings though.
     
  5. SPIKE

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    One of my local casinos finally got their live online Playtech games up and running 2 days ago and I'm pretty disappointed. They only have one live roulette wheel and it's double zero. It's awful looking, it's white, and it glares at me on the screen. Playtech opened a new office in Detroit just for the state of Michigan and the dealers are new and awful. I'm going to wait a while before I play.
     

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  6. Nathan Detroit

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    WIN first and then worry abut the taxes .More concern about the on line casino mafioso not paying you off .
     
  7. SPIKE

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    That's what's nice about playing at a state-licensed online casino, there is a state casino board that you can complain to. These casinos have to be on the up-and-up or they could lose their license to offer online games.
     

  8. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Yes shame we can’t online casinoverse here in skipptophia. I wonder how much that has to do with star and crown grip on the government here.
    A number of sites I’ve tried to register with in recent years have declined me access because of the Australian jurisdiction mandates from 2010 , prior to 2010 bet fair uk allowed us to play casinoverse online, bodog was another I was signed to. Then access was denied and all money in those accounts was claimed by the two sites mentioned.

    So how have you ( twoup) been able to use offshore casinoverse from within skipptophia? Are you using a re routed VPN? Etc , if you are inclined to reply I’d be interested to know. If not no worries. Cheers
     
  9. Punkcity

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    I’m sure it could be done here also but I suspect the casinoverse behemoths we have here are strangling our government at the moment. Skipptophia is the last bastions of monopolies and duopolies on the planet, the only bane of living on an island.

    Interesting no math hero has bombarded your thread claiming to help the degen ploppy gambler from getting any ideas about signing up to the online casinoverse you mentioned. Lol that. Cheers
     
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  10. Rond1nell1

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    In brazil is not legalized online yet, but even so there are many options of sites to play online, play tech is the best platform, it has many options of roulette on the sites. Hopefully it unlocks a lot of options there too, betfair and bet365 is one of the sites I play here.
     
  11. TwoUp

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    Simple answer. I don't use any online gambling, even if it were available. I don't trust it. I don't trust any online operators of casinos or sports books or any electronic gaming machines. If you win in online sports betting they close your accounts, and take other nefarious measures or premium charges like "Betfair", (such an ironic name) to steal 40% of your profits, in effect the bookmaker gets a risk free take on winnings using your money as risk.

    My lack of trust in electronic gaming comes from deep experience in cryptographically secure random number generation and the fact that many patents on EGMs have feedback loops and 'self checks' which trigger a machine out of order when 'something is not right' meaning the machine would have otherwise paid out "too much", so they turn it off, clear the condition and go back to baseline collect for the house and drip feed just enough to keep people interested mode.

    None of the gambling regulations have a compliance regime or definition of random that matches the best available set of randomness tests, or that would even stand up to being cryptographically secure and there is enough wriggle room in the compliance and monitoring of gaming machines that subtle measures can be taken to benefit the house and still appear to be within the tolerances.
     
  12. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Online gambling is reserved for losers and addicted gamblers.
     
  13. SPIKE

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    Probably mostly true, but for somebody like me it offers things that you cannot find in a brick-and-mortar casino. Play anytime I want, no distractions, extremely fast games producing 60 to 90 spins an hour, complete control over my game. I doubt I will ever play at another brick-and-mortar casino, why would I. It's like going back to washing your clothes down by the creek with a washboard after you've had a modern washing machine for a while. Why would you do that.
     
  14. SPIKE

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    I don't trust it either, just last night it beat me. One of my state casinos has Auto roulette which is a computer run roulette wheel with a $0.10 minimum bet. So I can screw around with it to my heart's content and not lose any real money. Just last night I was making ten cent bets and having a 62% hit rate betting every spin with a progression. After about 50 spins I quit for a couple hours and came back doing the same thing, betting every spin using a progression. I bet exactly 12 times and won exactly one time out of 12. It recognized me and stopped me from winning because I was using a progression. It was an amazing thing to watch, but I knew what was happening because I've seen it happen many times in the past. I went from having a 62% hit rate to having an almost 0% hit rate. I knew this was going to happen in advance I just wanted to see how long it was going to take for them to do it. Because they always do it, it's built into the software.
     
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    Yes I've heard plenty of those kind of stories. Electronic will never be trusted by anyone who has a serious bankroll, unless they are laundering money.

    I agree with Sir Anyone, online and EGM's are serving the degenerate gambler market.

    Betfair was at one point a reasonable betting exchange, like eBay for professional bettors and didn't have a vested interest in fucking over the punter. When they started having a retail betting platform with their own dark pool they had every reason to front run the exchange participants, add delays to orders and introduce anticompetitive premium charges. A bunch of cunts.
     
  16. Punkcity

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    Thanks for replying.
    I agree it’s Wild West re online casinoverse at the moment. But I think if governments can over see like they regulate here land casinoverse then online will be the way of the future. This forum has a number of members that have posted favourable results of government regulation online casinoverse.

    The political sway land based casinoverse hold at the moment aka skipptophia is the lure of real and easy tax dollars. Once the government see how much MORE revenue they can rape from online casinoverse then I think you will find land based will go the way of the league clubs, rsl clubs etc.

    It’s not a question of if but a question of when.

    If I was offered the availability of the number of land based casinoverse that are offered overseas then perhaps I would use membership cards because then there is a real competition for my business. As it stands here with a one trick pony casinoverse per state there is no competition and we eat gruel.
    Open up a number of regular legitimate online casinoverse, yes the future is there. Cheers
     
  17. TwoUp

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    Yeah the lack of competition is intentional. There is no application process, a casino has to be invited by the government to provide a submission. No corruption at all. Lol

    There was almost competition in NSW between Star and Crown but the Crown scandal with links to organised crime in SE Asia put an end to that.

    It also says a lot about the Dictator Dan Labour Government who blesses Crown Casino whilst at the same time it was declared unfit to hold a gambling license in NSW. Shows who's the real boss of organised crime in that state.
     
  18. fathead

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    Are you talking about airball roulette with a physical wheel? I have seen those on a live feed labeled 'Auto Roulette'.
     
  19. SPIKE

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    It looks like airball but they told me it's a computer sim..
     
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    That is interesting. Thanks.
     

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