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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Platton

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    For what?
     
  2. hotjohnnn

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    Actually this is not true, he showed a hit rate of 24 spins but he did not play from the beginning of the session.
    So this theoritical 24 to 1 is fake as hell...
    I know exactly the numbers of Naughty and they are accurate.
    I did not talk about Naughty in this post...
     
  3. hotjohnnn

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    I am not a winner nor a loser nor a gambler.
    I bet only if i know that i have a proved edge otherwise there is no reason for me to bet.
    There is a big difference.
    You think you know everything, do not you?
     
  4. Benas

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    If so , then why you write this :
    If all your bets are with an edge - you must be a winner...I think that is simply logic ?
    Who cares what I think?

    I am simply asking in an attempt to understand why people so often write things on forums that do not fall within the bounds of elementary logic.
    However, the fact that they take those questions as an insult to themselves suggests that they themselves understand that they are writing something wrong...

    If repeaters - is the key to victory, then earlier or later all would play this way, simply because it is relatively simple if compared for example with your mentioned VB.

    However, if VB has a certain logic - why using it should give an advantage to the player, then the game on repeaters has no such logic.
    What kind of force must act so that what has fallen just now has a better chance of falling out again? You yourself wrote that
     
  5. hotjohnnn

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    Most of the times the numbers who lead the ''race'' stay cold for many spins and other take the lead.

    This makes sense actually because when numbers standard deviation is negative it should hit more in the next few thousands of spins.
    But it is not sure what numbers will hit more and in what time frame this will happen.

    If all your bets are with an edge - you must be a winner...I think that is simply logic ?

    Sure in sports betting this is what i do but in roulette things are different and everything shows negative expected value.
    This is why i wrote what i wrote above.

    Anyway as i said better keep this thread for repeaters discussion.
     
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    He actually does play from the beginning, well from spin 2 onwards. Read and comprehend what is posted.
     
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    When you are ranking the numbers the actual repeat count is not the only thing to consider.

    Think of a hit as a temporary boost X rungs up the ladder and after Y spins they start to drop back a rung, and another Y spins another rung... If they don't get a hit eventually they will fall back to rung 0.

    Numbers that are currently hitting more than others will be boosted above the cut and can be bet on.

    This allows continuous play and you won't get drained on betting on some initial fast repeating numbers that then go cold.


    Understand that every 37 spin cycle, 23 unique numbers are expected on average. Every 37 spin cycle, 14 numbers from the previous cycles set of 23 get carried over, 9 will get cycled out, and 9 new numbers from the previous 14 unhit are cycled in, leaving 5 numbers that miss for at least two cycles.

    On average it takes 155 spins to cycle through all the numbers.
     
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  8. Benas

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    So I ask which force appears when the number standard deviation becomes negative? Why it did not affect the ball before? How that force knows - that now is a negative deviation ??
    Not looks to you that such force must be as a minimum professor in math ;)...

    Why peoples do such mistakes?
    The reason is that people just don't know what is the cause and what is the effect.

    If you were walking down the street and found a purse with money, you may think that you have to walk down the street and find more purses with money and become a millionaire.

    I think it is clear to you that you can walk on that road as much as you want, but you will not become a millionaire.

    Why is it like that? Because the consequence is confused with the cause!

    You found the money not because you were walking down that street, but because money was here!
    It doesn't matter if it was you or your grandmother - if she has good eyes - she could have found the money ...

    Ideally the same is with these repeaters - the number box catches the ball not because it catches it 5 spins before, but say because ower it ball lost its last energy and cant move further ... :)


    If a basketball player hits the basket 10 times in a row, how does that change his score in the next ten?

    It doesn't! He will hit or not hit depending on how good he is or how tired he is, but not because he hit or did not hit a few shots backward...
    You simply do not know and do not notice what creates a real advantage in roulette...
    So I talk about them - about repeaters :)...
     
  9. hotjohnnn

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    Nice reply you always bring the numbers and i like that.
    But do you personally take advantage of these situations and if yes how?
     
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    You simply do not know and do not notice what creates a real advantage in roulette...

    Teach us professor!
     
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  11. Benas

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    :) ... singer sings, but not teach how to sing ...for that are singers schools or classes...logical?
    That to teach others professionally - I must know how that to do, but I not know...that to teach I must wish that to do, but I not...
    I know several good players, know what they do to win - near to always and sometimes can say when seeing that you are move really in the wrong direction.
    And it's up to you whether or not you get something for yourself from my tips. Some have taken something... ;)
     
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    Yes I use many statistical characteristics in all my gambling.

    The precise details of how is something you have to work out the logic yourself from the hints, and angles that are shared here and elsewhere.

    You know that every cycle we get roughly 23/24 unique numbers and 13/14 unhit. We get 5 numbers that will on average be gone for two cycles. You know in the second cycle that the 9 new numbers and 5 cold numbers come from the 13-14 numbers that were not hit in the prior cycle. You know that on average 9 numbers cycle in and out every 37 spin cycle, keeping 13/14 from the previous cycle. You know that it takes 155 spins for all 37 numbers to appear.

    You will see 32 unique numbers in 70 spins leaving 5 cold numbers that take 84-85 spins to hit. 33 uniques in 78 spins, 34 uniques in 87 spins, 35 uniques in 100 spins, 36 uniques takes 119 spins, 37 takes 155 spins.

    Would you play for those last 5 cold numbers to appear or against them knowing that it takes 84-85 spins on average for them to show and that 2 of the 5 are cold for 3-4 cycles (from the start of play to the last cycle). The house edge is based on an unfair payout of just 1 extra pocket, and here you have two pockets that will sleep for 119 spins and one for 155 spins and clearly identified.

    Understand that this 155 cycle to see all 37 numbers is happening all the time. Every spin is both the start of a new 155 spin cycle and the end of a prior one, in effect you have 155 overlapping cycles.

    Compare what is hot and cold across multiple 155 spin cycle horizons to gain insights into targeting your betting.
     
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    Which # gonna hit first for 4x ? Gotta be a 3x right ?

    Which # gonna hit first for 5x ? Gotta be a 4x right ?

    You'll figure it out...
     
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    [QUOTE="Denzie, post: 144974, member: 6493"Which # gonna hit first for 5x ? Gotta be a 4x right ?
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    Which # gonna hit first for 2x ? Gotta be a 1x right ?

    Why go any further than this? Recycling for new first repeaters works as efficiently as adding 2nd 3rd 4th and so on repeaters.

    Repeaters make no sense, it's an illogical bet. I prefer to expand on the illogical nature of a single repeat rather than expand on the number of illogical repeats.
     

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    Do not see any tips from you only theory and real life examples which is not bad.
     
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    Sure these are good facts but i asked you something else and i did not get a straight answer.
     
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    Sure but what if a 2x hits first to 4x?
    For example today i had 14 numbers with 2x from a real wheel results.
    Maybe i will who knows...
     
  18. Naughty but nice

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    Post the numbers. 30 spins and no 3x happens.
     
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    Don't know where player got these from. Still no problem if RNG.
    John Fixed odds betting terminals that use RNG were no problem. The Dr Sir's dislike of the LOTT happened
    on FOBT's.
    Just like real wheel does.
     
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    So the theory is from tips... Ok, I can write direct - play repeaters are worthless... I do not want to be so drastic...
    And as I said to you best variant is to see a better player in reality... Are maybe only two ways - himself understand why something is good or bad, or to see a better player in action. I had both.
    In your country are several good players, but I think you have nothing done that see them...Here is maybe the answer to all...
     
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