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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. Bombus

    Bombus Well-Known Member

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    Are you taking the piss?
     
  2. TwoUp

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    No I am referring to the suite of statistical tests for evaluating the quality of randok number generators.

    For example the diehard tests or the NIST tests.
     
  3. Bombus

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    Hello Nathan Detroit, can you translate please?
     
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  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Bombus, What is the question ? I Ask the wise man who dropped word on you .

    I have nothing to do with that RNG discussion.

    Better check your sources before opening yap.
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Do not forget some of us winners are designated as the unwashed .

    Having the audacity going to a casino with less a million Dollars.
     
  7. mansi19896

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    its level no one should drop of. Like in life you win or loose, you must always be joyful no matter what outcome

    its sad if people become more worse then casinos if in old age they start to tell im actually winning just to fool peoples, because they realized winnings are not happening so they start making up stories, maybe i can fool others. Casinos are justified their atleast doing business
     

  8. Median Joe

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    I think it's better to take a pragmatic approach and use whatever RNG is "good enough" for your purpose. You mentioned the Mersenne twister, but in fact it passes the Diehard tests, although not the more stringent TestU01 suite. Several high profile programming languages use it, including Python & Matlab. Also, random.org reckon a PRNG is adequate for simulations, although not gaming, gambling, or crypto.

    Which implies that there is something like "degrees" of randomness. For example, suppose an RNG passes most randomness tests; does that make it worthless because it hasn't passed all of them? It depends what you want to use it for. Then there's the question of what "true" random is anyway. If the definition of true random means it passes all the randomness tests you can throw at it, then true randomness must have changed over the years as the tests have gotten tougher. But that doesn't seem right; surely true random doesn't change? And there's a circularity in that definition because the tests are devised to test randomness but in order to create a good test we have to know what randomness is, and mathematicians differ in their opinion as to what the definition of random "really" is. If there is no ideal standard against which to measure any RNG how would we know if and when it achieved it?

    As long as the period is long enough, there's no chance of predicting future outputs from past outcomes, certainly not in the context of a gambling session anyway.
     
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  9. Nathan Detroit

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    Casinos are for recreation and with the proper intellect one can even be a winner there .


    It is not how much one wins but how little one loses .
     
  10. David Gregory

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    Words of wisdom again from Obi-Wan Kenobi
     
  11. Benas

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    I can tell you about one of my talks with the pit boss in one casino.

    I asked him which roulette the casino makes more profit on, I thought he wouldn't answer or would think long and hard about it, as roulettes don't run the same hours.
    However, he immediately pointed to one...
    To my surprise, he pointed to the wheel, which was the best from the standpoint of an Advant player ...


    I've noticed very often myself that people really like to play roulette which Advant players - won't play.
    I still remember what prompted me to play this game in the first place... I just noticed on one wheel that under certain circumstances - some numbers fall out much more often... Something like 1/25-1/27.
    In that casino there were - two roulettes - do you think the one with 1/25 was the one you couldn't get a place to play? Wrong. No one was interested... almost :)...

    My friend worked as a pit boss in a casino in South Africa ...they had only wheels with two zeros. So he gave to casino a personal nice idea to buy few wheels with one zero...:)
    They did that and you think somebody played on them? No - all continued to play on two zeros wheels...:D

    So not think, that somebody try to predict the future or at all try to calculate what is more worth...
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

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    Therefore make the best of it what ever is presented to you .
     
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    person should never settle for anything less if you have to accept it. Not worth of this silly small entertainment
     
  14. Nathan Detroit

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    Overwhelming by the intellect lately surfacing on the gambling forums .Even the Penny Andy think


    they are out of the ranks of the unwashed .


    But being concerned about others "drawdowns" and size of units and what is known as the entertainment industry .

    Au Revoir.
     

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    Some cats are now proficient in pidgin English . Lolly has nobreeze. correct Mr. Gregory ?
     
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    I have a challenge for you. If you had to win one unit a day, every day for a year because your life depended on it, what game would you play and what would be your approach? After you answer this question, I will tell you what I would do. Both our answers can be coded for a one unit win a day X 365 days. We will find out which one of us would lose his life or the both of us.
     
  17. David Gregory

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    I will have to get a translator before I can answer your question.
     
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    Your wisdom is just so overwhelming.
     
  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Why only one unit per day?



    If you have a hit and run strategy...

    What happens after you've left the casino that magically enables you to win once you return?
    How long long must you wait before you can return and why?
    Isn't one long session the same as several short sessions?

    Logic, it's always in the way.
     
  20. Nathan Detroit

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    WHO is paying for RFB at a choice casino hotel ? Stu Pitt and his big mouth.

    A joint convention Stu Pitts and unfunded Martingale Testers and Math Nazis to boot .
     

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