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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    Very well said. If you have no need to increase the risk then why do it. We proceed with caution in every other aspect of life except gambling. I do not play for the thrill of taking risks and winning. I just play to make money in the least risky way possible. This is why I always worked on having an ironclad bet selection and never concentrated on money management. If you have a good bet selection money management takes care of itself. But look how greedy compulsive gamblers are. They think if you have a good bet selection you should increase your risk tenfold to get as much money as possible. When greed is your main priority it clouds your thinking and makes you act with bad choices.
     
  2. SPIKE

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    The only people I need to prove it to is the casino and I prove it to them everyday. Everybody else can go take a flying frick at a rolling doughnut.
     
  3. thereddiamanthe

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    My mail is in the profile .. or you can reach me via PM on rouletteforum.
     
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  4. TwoUp

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    He claims he never loses more than 5 bets ever. His exposure is fixed to a max of 31 units even with a negative progression.

    There is zero risk of busting based on his claims. He claims he always wins every session.

    The only thing that matters is how quickly he gets the job done, hence why the martingale makes sense if his claims are true. The grand martingale makes even more sense as he can never lose and will make profit on every losing bet also.

    But he would make more than 1 peanut with the grand marty and then the casino heat will be on to him (so he claims)

    With zero risk and 100% guarantee of winning every session what would you do?

    Would you play VIP stakes or for peanuts?

    Here's is the thing, the absurdity of his claims do not stack up. No one would play for peanuts, they would grow their bankroll and unit size as fast as they can.

    Get the job done efficiently make some millions and then retire from "educated guessing".

    Which brings us to prediction.

    A prediction (Latin præ-, "before," and dicere, "to say"), or forecast, is a statement about a future event or data.

    A prediction is more than a guess. A prediction reflects our thoughts about what will happen in the future, but it is based on patterns we have observed or on prior knowledge.

    Spike says to make his "educated guesses" he observes events unfold until the time and "conditions" are right before making a bet.

    So here we have "educated " meaning knowledge and "condtions" being patterns.

    Sounds very like spikes "educated guess" really is a prediction, he just pretends it is not.
     
  5. TwoUp

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    But you have no risk.

    You always win every session and never ever are you down more than 5 units. The process is just an inconvenient ATM, or I should say peanut dispenser.

    All your claims.

    So with those claims there is no risk, you eliminated it.

    Unless...

    The logical conclusion is you're talking shit.
     
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    You made the obnoxious and clearly false claims.

    So keep digging or admit you lied.
     
  7. thereddiamanthe

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    ↑↑ Exactly, with 80% hit rate on EC, you CAN afford ANY progression.

    With positive base unit progression, you're a millionaire in several months;
    talking about bet efficiency & time spent in/at a casino.

    At that point, one business trip a year covers everything;
    talking about not compulsive gambling, few very high unit returns,
    .. & doing otherwise what you want.

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    You just don't get it .. what its being favorable to you rammed in your head.
    Again, unless your claims are pulled from whichever fantasy land.
     
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  8. Zaratrusta

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    si quieres usar a Marty, adelante. el casino te amará
     
  9. Zaratrusta

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    Si quieres ganar más dinero, aumenta el valor de la unidad. o hacer un mayor número de apuestas, para reducir la varianza que producen las malas rachas, que es lo que hago porque no tengo un hit rate como el de Spike. Si tuviera una tasa de aciertos tan alta como la de Spike, tal vez buscaría y ganaría una sola unidad como él
     
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  10. thereddiamanthe

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    @Zaratrusta just a suggestion
    translate.google.com → English
     
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  11. SPIKE

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    Not true. I mentioned here a while back that I had a sequence where I got four zeros and it took me 7 bets to make my one unit. Three of the zeros were in a row.
     
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    @SPIKE, anyway, not my business how you conduct your business .. neither anyone else's.
     
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    Again not true. Frequently enough it takes me 5 bets to make my one unit because of zeros involved. You think I want to sit there on the 4th bet with 45 units involved in the next bet to make one lousy unit of profit? Do you know how insane that is? Obviously you don't cuz you keep pushing this. You compulsive gamblers are nuts, you belong in a psych ward somewhere
     
  14. SPIKE

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    You're living in a gambler's fantasyland, you've seen too many movies. First of all I don't have a bankroll big enough to make those kind of bets and second of all I don't need the money. Why would I put myself through that. I'm not some 26 year old kid just starting out I'm over 70 and I already have everything I want. The greed that runs the life of a compulsive gambler is an amazing thing to see. Look at you people, you're salivating over all the things you think you would do and the casinos that you think would let you do them. This is why gambling addiction is called a disease. As I keep saying I'm not a gambler and I'm not about to become one just because you people are clinically insane. I see absolutely no point going out and making a million dollars and putting myself through what that would take at my age just to prove I can do it. It's called being an adult, you should try it sometime.
     

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    I don't speak Spanish
     
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    Edward Thorp could have going on tour around the world before he wrote his book and made millions of dollars counting cards but he didn't do that did he. He didn't do it for the same reason I won't do it. I completely understand him and why he did what he did. How come nobody on here is calling him crazy for not taking a world tour making millions.
     
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    after done many multible sessions, i noticed its safer to stop session after 2 unit loss and start new one - otherwise race can become more complicated after bad start
     
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    I'll be the first then, he was stupid/crazy.
     
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    You most certainly are a gambler by its very definirion. "Gamble: An enterprise undertaken or attempted with risk of loss and a chance of making a profit." And you do this every day. That's getting as close to compulsive as you can get.
     
  20. Zaratrusta

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    Yes sir, it was a mistake
    If you want to earn more money, increase the value of the unit. or make a greater number of bets, to reduce the variance produced by losing streaks, which is what I do because I do not have a hit rate like Spike. If I had as high a hit rate as Spike I would maybe search and win a single unit like he does.
     

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