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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    I have also learned that it doesn't matter when you stop or start because you're dealing with independent outcomes it's just one long continuous game. Roulette totally resets itself after every spin. Even the online casinos consider every spin to be a game and the next spin to be a new game.
     
  2. SPIKE

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    Not even close. I can't believe I'm the only one here who's read Beat the Dealer and I don't even play Blackjack. But congratulations, calling him stupid and crazy is exactly how a compulsive gambler would think. My wife is a compulsive gambler when she's in a casino and I've said to her many times when she's ahead several hundred dollars that isn't that enough, shouldn't we leave now? Her answer is always " It's never enough." I can't even wrap my head around that type of mentality it's totally foreign to me.
     
  3. SPIKE

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    Nope, I have no risk of loss, absolutely none. I will always win every session I will always quit one unit ahead. Somewhere down the road there may be the session from hell but I will still prevail. It's only gambling when you don't know the outcome, and I know the outcome. When you have an 80% hit rate it's a foregone conclusion.
     
  4. thereddiamanthe

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    Who knows, perhaps he made a secret deal with the casino syndicate ..
    & actually, according to the public data, he did do all the stuff including the testing within casinos.
    & having a team of those, it aun;t hard to replicate several more computer shoes & getting the work once done leveraged through runners.
     
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    Besides, I only use the slightest progression, combined negative, positive & flat .. so don't be putting me in the box with ... whoever. Adress me with me, & voiding all associations with others.
     
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    Moreover, besides Marti .. there are plenty of unique progression types .. specifically tailored to 'the' method ., whichever you are using .. & who says you have to win to positive with one hit.

    One thing remains true though .. when you use casino's money gained from a git, you ain;t risking your bankroll -- & with 80% hit rate that makes complete sense.

    Being eg. 2 units down (or however many) .. & gaining a unit with a hit .. reinvesting that, fully or partially, requires (much) fewer hits to finish --again with 80% hit rate, & even a few zeroes in a row .. that, reinvesting, does not impact your bankroll .. you are simply going at, on EC district, for two hits in a row.

    That's, simply, my take on it.
     
  7. TwoUp

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    So what's all this nonsense about "protecting" the bankroll you say you don't have or need?

    I asked the questions that shot you down. You refused to even provide average bets made in a session.

    Apparently it is well about 80%.

    So better than 80% like 82-84%

    Been chipping away on peanuts for over 15 years.

    Making peanuts for 15 years and never loses. Never occured to him to increase his bet size.

    When asked how bets made you said you didn't know but here you claim you keep meticulous records. So which lie do we believe?

    As per my previous post you make a prediction. You said yourself that use the past spins to predict the next outcome.

    A huge gigantic edge for 15 years and still making peanuts.
     

  8. SPIKE

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    Even if you only have $50, that's your bankroll and you need to protect it. A bank has nothing to do with size it has to do with working capital. I always take the safest avenue of play because I was taught early to be risk-adverse, not to take a risk if I didn't need to. John D Rockefeller, and Elon Musk for that matter, richest men in the world in their times and they both use other people's money to make money. John D Rockefeller would never invest any of his own money in a project he would borrow it all and make the banks take the risk. I don't like risk, I'm not a gambler. I never gambled before I started playing roulette. Gambling makes no sense to me. Why my wife sits there in front of a slot machine until all her money is gone has always been a complete mystery to me and a mystery to her because she doesn't know why she does it. Personally I think it's some kind of a masked death wish, that I don't have. I will always take the safest route if I can and that means flat betting. I could care less about progressions and reinvesting the casino's money, to me that's for chumps. I enjoy the way I play, if I started playing the way you people suggest I would hate it and I wouldn't want to do it because of the stress involved. What's interesting to me is you people cannot understand a mindset that is different from your own. I totally understand your mindset but you don't understand mine at all.
     
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  9. SPIKE

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    "A huge gigantic edge for 15 years and still making peanuts."

    Translation: 15 years later and it still hasn't turned me into a compulsive gambler like you. 15 years later and it still hasn't made the main motivator in my life the same as yours, greed. It drives you insane that it hasn't turned me into you.
     
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    But you said you don't have a bankroll. You don't need one.

    What did you mean when you said that? Do you bet with peanuts ?
     
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    I am glad you held yourself back for 15 years to stay poor for your family and to spite the math of compounding.

    Do I strike you as someone who is compulsive?

    How do you resolve that position with the one where you keep shaming on me that I am one of the mathBoyz, that I am guilty of calculating things in an infuriatingly methodical manner whilst applying logic and reason.

    What makes you think I am motivated by greed? You already told me math is my religion, not money.

    One thing that can always be relied upon is for SPIKE to talk about things he know's nothing about.
     
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    A bankroll is typically an amount of money that is a certain times greater the amount you're betting. The greater the bet the larger the bankroll to cover your losses. I don't have that. When I say my job is to cover my bankroll it's a euphemism, it means my job is to protect my money. To be frugal and not take risks with it. In any of my Casino accounts I typically have a minimum amount of money, just enough to cover a few bets. Sometimes I even take payment in peanuts. LOL
     
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    I'm far from poor, where did I ever indicate that I was. I have everything I want or need.
     
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    Relative to where you would be applying some math to your game you are poor.

    And you don't eat well which says a lot. You only eat canned fish from what I read. Obviously fresh fish caught just hours before you eat it is not something you can afford.
     

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    TwoUp, I really don't why you continue to converse with this guy. He doesn't listen to logic, he doesn't listen to facts and most importantly he doesn't think math plays any roll what so ever in strategies and methods. If I could guess why you continue to reply to his posts it is because you just cannot let him get away with his gut wrenching bs. I have that problem myself. My head tells me do not give him another minute of wasted time, but he says things so outlandish, I cannot helpmyself and have to respond. I don't know, maybe you enjoy toying with a fool. Kind of like a cat with a mouse. You know, if nobody responded to him at all, what would he have to say from then on? This thread would die a slow death.
     
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    In fact I happen to eat extremely well. I eat at least seven or eight fresh vegetables everyday both raw and in prepared dishes. Broccoli, cauliflower, eggplant, tomatoes, yellow squash, zucchini, cabbage, three different kinds of lettuce, fresh green beans, mushrooms, cucumber, red and green peppers, green onions, cherry tomatoes, avocados, turnip greens, mustard greens, kale. And a bunch I'm sure I'm forgetting. Just today I had seven of the vegetables on this list. I eat an avocado everyday for lunch along with a celery, green pepper, cucumber, and tomato salad with vinaigrette dressing and slivered almonds. I also have a sardine sandwich which is considered a superfood, I eat a can of sardines everyday. The benefits you get are almost off the chart. And of course you couldn't be more wrong about canned fish.

    "Canned and fresh fish are both equally nutritious. The canning process doesn't degrade the nutrients in fish, so you'll get protein, heart healthy omega-3 fats and other nutrients from fresh and canned sources."

    There are gourmet restaurants in northern Europe in places like Finland that serve nothing but canned fish. It's extremely expensive and they have their own private canneries. They even serve it right out of the can for freshness. Unless you live next to the ocean fresh fish is always a bad deal. It's never fresh, it's always at least two days old or more. Read Anthony Bourdain's book Kitchen Confidential if you want the lowdown on fresh fish. You are far better off eating canned.

    I can guarantee you I have a far better diet than you do which which I'm sure consists of fast food 6 days a week. I haven't been to a fast food restaurant since the 80s, I wouldn't eat that crap if somebody else paid for it. In fact I hate eating out because the food is usually so poorly prepared and we have no idea what goes on in the kitchen. Go and find the chef and it's some twenty-two-year-old pimply faced High School Dropout.
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    Logic will get you nowhere beating roulette, it's not a logical game. Independent random outcomes are never logical, they are the opposite of logical. To beat roulette you have to learn to think in an illogical way, which takes a lot of time and patience.
     
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    I live by the ocean, in a sub tropical climate, it's basically a paradise.

    The fish is fresh, the air is clean and my vegetables are locally grown or from my own garden. Eating out is never an issue, the quality of the produce and the experience of the chef's it's hard to go wrong. But then again we have a lot of influence from S.E. Asia in the cuisine so you come to expect healthy food.

    I don't live in the processed and fast food capital of the world with lots of fast food chain restaurants. Most of the world doesn't.
     
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    I lived in Hawaii for awhile and the weather gets boring. I like the change of seasons in the Midwest, it gives you something to look forward to. Paradise is overrated and overcrowded. I lived in Santa Barbara for 7 years and I've never gone back even for a visit.
     
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    It is not crowded here but then we have less people, plenty of space and so much unspoilt wilderness to explore.

    So you traded fresh ocean air and sunshine for snow and tornados. Good for you, a fitting decision.
     

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