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Roulette R-Sim - Giz2 - Reading Randomness Validation

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 13, 2022.

  1. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    30 unique numbers requires 60 (59.52) spins
    32 unique numbers requires 71 (70.98) spins
    35 unique numbers requires 100 (99.95) spins
    36 unique numbers requires 118 (118.45) spins
    37 unique numbers requires 155 (155.46) spins

    Averages of course.
     
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  2. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Thank you TwoUp.
    Yes average. But that average of 1-3-5-7&30 shows for live spins-airball and best of all, RNG, the old FOBT's. That can't play any more as
    max bet is £2.
    Unless Spike can show flat bet for £2
     
  3. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    Damn such low limits.
     
  4. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, use to be max bet of £100.00
    But the plasterers or woodpeckers mucked it up, they don't have a clue plaster chips all over the screen.
    So, the do-gooders of the world got it changed.
     
  5. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    THIS SHOULD BE IN ADVANTAGE 3; BUT "TWOUP" HAS GIVEN YOU THE MATH. RANDOM ORG NUMBERS.
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Not a big deal. People are exchanging ideas. I don't mind if a jewel of knowledge is hidden deep inside of this thread among varying opinions and even some misconceptions. For instance this one. You can't play an average game and should not expect to. It will happen. But what really happens is a sort of wild ride that reaches out to the edges of standard deviation. In the very beginnings of dropping hints about RR back in 2006 at Gambler's Glen I pointed out the need for "a line in the sand." You need to know the averages so that you can know if the conditions are good enough for you at the moment or bad for you at the moment. By that I mean a patch of spins. Most people don't have a sense for sequences that last for 10 to 20 spins at a time and how they transition from one way to another. Hot number tracking teaches you this stuff. I pointed out what it takes to break even in 300 spins. That is that you are flat betting on every spin. You need 9 hits in 300. That comes to a hit every 34 spins on average. Now this is not a floating point number but an integer. It's also twice as much as 17 as I have pointed out is the average number between extreme numbers of hits to be expected. If you put all your hopes on the coldest number and you bet straight up flat all the way you might get only 3 or 4 hits in 300. So You blow your bankroll. Those are the risks. Knowing the averages is just a line in the sand to guide you. You want to be rich. Learn how to hunt inside the game when one or two numbers are just going bat shit crazy. That condition is normal too. It's normal when one number hits 26 times in 300 spins. Most people think that it is not random. They go on and on about saying it's not random. That is confirmation bias. Here is a great example of confirmation bias. It's all over the news that the heat we are experiencing now is unprecedented and caused by man made global warming. BS. The assholes are just playing you for a fool as they fly around in private jets and buy beach front property. The fact is that 40 years ago it was hotter, on the record too. I remember it. I was an apprentice carpenter back then. I use to hand nail, with a hammer, lumber together with my face down to the concrete in 108 degree direct sunlight. It was brutal. It was mother nature, Mother nature can be a bitch. But getting manipulated by control freaks so that they can be rich and powerful over you can be even more of a mother trucker. So be a sucker. Believe in magical expectations that almost never flat line at the "line in the sand." I learned to read the conditions. They tell the current state of things where the line in the sand tells you if they are above or below the averages. The casino does not pay you the averages. It pays you what happens. That's why expecting the averages is just like being lied to by a bean counter that wants the world of gambling to be fair. It's a suckers game. If you play for what is actually happening now you are going to be better off than if you play wishing that average will be the outcome. It's a fallacy to wish for or to expect anything is due. The casino does not pay you for 1 million spins. Now this knowledge is buried in a wild off topic but not highjacked thread. This is just how I like it. It's also difficult to read as a giant word salad of characters. I could have broken it down into sentences easier to read. But I chose to be an asshole and mess with your eyes. It's too big to edit so I'm not going to fix any typos. Enjoy the jumble of knowledge in this thread.
     
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  7. mansi19896

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    @TurboGenius @gizmotron has anyone seen wheel analyzis stats FAIL with roulette extreme software - if it happens does it mean it can be exploited and win
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have no idea. I write my own sims and chart trackers from scratch. They are free standing apps. It's easier than being forced to learn a scripting language and fit it into an already configured GUI and telemetry reporting system.
     
  9. David Gregory

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    The one thing that is truly predictable is your comments. I know what you are going to say before you say it. Especially; "I don't have to prove anything"
     
  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Unfortunately that does not stop you from asking, being so informed and all. I guess you are doing the public a service? It does make you look just a little smarter than the common idiot that loves his Martingale Progression. Irony intentional.
     
  11. David Gregory

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    Does that make me any different than one who loves his idiotic 'reading randomness' farce? Irony intentional. Let me give you some good advice, quit commenting on what I say unless you can prove it's a lie. That should stop the conversations between us which are unnecissary. My use of the Marti is old news, leave it alone.
     
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  12. gizmotron

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    You are such a sucker for your own gambling knowledge. You are at the very bottom of the food chain when it comes to gambling awareness. You are currently on cloud 9 with that experience. Everyone here knows the lesson you are going to experience. I don't need ad hominin attention seeking comments from a lackey such as you. What was that funny line I saw recently in a movie? "If your brain was shoved up a gnat's ass it would be like a BB in a boxcar. " You are for trash talking and nothing else. Some day you will grow up to being a qualified gnat's ass.
     
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  13. David Gregory

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    My system runs rings around yours and you know it. It already has. Go to my rated games. I am ranked 317 in 8 games, you are ranked 614 in 19 games. The proof is in the pudding. Quit being so jealous, you come off like an ass.
     
  14. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You are clueless.
     

  15. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So I ran my first try with a single hot number and got a win at the last before busting out. $50 is way to large for starting out. I plan to keep going now with hunting a hottest number in 337 spins. I'll cut back to $20 so I have a little headroom. Still trying to hit the number #23 that shown at the start to be the most active. I might be able to test faster with my app. But this is at R-sim so that you can see each bet.

    So Far:

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    02 |XX.|X....|
    03 |X..|XXXXX|
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    09 |...|XXX..|
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  16. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    That was the most boring hour I ever had with gambling. Obviously I took the number 23 and stuck with it. I even lowered the bet to 20 for a while just to give it more spins after getting down a ways. Here is the results from the tracker's view. You can look at the game itself on R-Sim.

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    01 |XX.|XX...|X.|X.|XX
    02 |XX.|X....|..|..|XXX
    03 |X..|XXXXX|..|..|X
    04 |XX.|XX...|..|..|XX
    05 |...|.....|XX|X.|XXXX
    06 |X..|.....|X.|..|XX
    07 |...|X....|..|..|XXX
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  17. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Nice going ego tripping wannabe.
     
  18. David Gregory

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    Why do some always scorn the winner?
     
  19. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Hahahah! LOL
     
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    Are still playing betting against the last 10?
     

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