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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    The above 58 spins 29 non-hit and 29 repeats.
     
  2. KarlAtwo

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    It is! It is accumaltive meaning what I said before: Sometimes there are a lot of contenders battling for the first position. When one of them hits. All spins have to be added together. The max was 384 believe it or not.

    I still believe you test by hand @GaryG ?
     
  3. GaryG

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    I use rx, still can't code for shit. @KarlAtwo 300+ spins for a number to drop to the next X is not correct. I assume you are ka2?
     
  4. Denzie

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    Ka2 means if for example 5 contenders at the same spot trying to get to the next first place...and this takes 20 spins which isn't nothing special.... you lose 100units and not 20
    (Calling it a GAP might be less confusing coz that doesn't say how many # in play )

    Correct me if I'm wrong Ka2
     
  5. KarlAtwo

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    Yes correct! A lot of people still dont understand this principle unfortunatly.
     
  6. GaryG

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    Ohh. Ok I understand. Them gaps bring some hits though!
     
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  7. HAL

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    5x20=100 is the only thing that’s correct, everything else is a dead end street.
    There are better ways to spend 100 units.
     
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  8. KarlAtwo

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    Nobody talks about betting. It's just an clear observation. With this information you get the same "gaps" as betting random. This also holds true for the 2nd horse the 3th etc etc.
     
  9. Jefra

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    YES Sir, can. Question is only how many sessions you get such gaps playing random "5" or hot "5". (by the way, you can even get a gap bigger than 40 spins without hitting top 5 numbers!!!)
     
  10. Jefra

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    Even here in PART 3 can a player see anomalies, for example; if you play only top leader number, you don't get a hit 1 in 18 when leaders exchange a lot on a first place. Can happen in RX that you are not in plus at all. See some examples below:
    1.playing leader from 1 to 10x (flat betting)
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    186 spins, 5 hits. (185/5=37 !!!!), (made a test when was writing this post!!!!)

    More later, now run out of Office
     
  11. HAL

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    You say it’s just a clear observation, apparently not clear enough.
    1 in 37 has nothing to do with it, just break-even if you’re on time(lucky).
    The worst is the last of something, if you believe this then the best is the 1st of something.
    When something is 1 in 200, which and for how long do you bet a designated number.
    Random acts in an certain way, that’s why you can’t win if you bet too many numbers.
    We know it’s going to happen, we don’t know when because it’s the future. If you’re down a lot it’s a losing game. If I would say what to look for, some would say wtf and maybe remember what TG has written about.
     
  12. KarlAtwo

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    1 in 37 has all to do with it. You have to do better (flat betting). So in order to do so you have to for example skip spins somewhere and dont miss a single hit! As stated earlier.

    Now I can only tell about the things I've tested and until now I could not find anything remotely different than betting random. Yes you can see nice properties and patterns with the horse race example. Yes you have a lot of sessions when things go your way. But after many sessions you'll be back at 1:37

    I've created a playing field of 50 lap race of 36nrs, I've looked at dozens of variables and ideas mentioned here and thought off by my self. And not simple ones either, but complex ones as well. I've gathered all statistics about the "horses" what happend with which horse in x lap and what happens with the other horses in x lap(s).

    After each ideas is tested in 100's of sessions (takes only 15minutes or so due to programming.) the results so far is still 1:36

    As stated before a lot of people here still test by hand. This is so incredible dangerous because I had many ideas tested which looked really good for a lot of sessions and then tanked.

    Do I stop testing? No probably not. Dometimes an idea pops up in my head and I give it a go, you'll never know, you only have to be right once :)
     
  13. Yoigo

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    Hello Notto,
    Turbo said somewhere in a post that those who win no longer post, you know how I play, hahahhaa, all good friend.
    Greetings.
     
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  14. Naughty but nice

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    I've gathered all statistics about the "horses" what happened with which horse in x lap and what happens with the other horses in x lap(s).

    So, each lap wants to get to position 37.

    Now if you use top 3 of each lap; you need to know what positions 4-37 can throw in the mix.

    If you widen the field to say top 9, then its what are positions 10-37 going to throw at you.

    As the stream builds, when 1x-37 hits; how many more laps have started?

    You’d like to think that when lap1x has completed; lap 10x would have started.

    Now if you just chuck spins through RX or excel you probably don’t know what can happen.

    So, if you take Winkles graph you see what a stream can give. When roughly repeats could start appearing.

    Take the great knowing Dr Sir anyone anyone; who posted 10’330 live spins, that must be good for the purist who must play only live wheel. These 10’330 live spins produced an average for repeats. This average even shows on his touted random org for integers. Plus, live German spins and God forbid random generated numbers.

    Now knowing for a small 60 spins, how repeats can show; you can see how the laps start. If you have top 9 by spin 9 and the repeat average is 1 in 10 spins, you have a good chance of claiming back some of the loss. But are positions 10-37 going to show fast, where is the larger group?

    Now will the top 9 have 9 matches? A big no; you’ll be lucky if you get 7. With practice on R-sim, you more than likely see 5 matches for top 9. So, how many matches would top 3 have had? For lap 1x probably none.

    So, with all your statistics you should be able to know when a repeat is more likely to happen, would it be by a match or would it come from outside it’s match positions. Which the lap is now trying to get to position 37. But you should know lap 1x won’t get to 37 before the other closer laps want to start. Will the earlier spins give the match?

    I’ll give you this; 60 spins more often than not has 30 non-hits and given 30 repeats; so, lap 1x won’t be at position 37 by spin 37.

    Hi Yoigo
    Some can't read the riddles like karlAtwo or is it Ka2
     

  15. Herby

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    HI (IBM-1),

    I'd like to say wtf and remember what TG has written about.
    So please tell.
     
  16. HAL

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    It’s TG’s intellectual property.
     
  17. Nathan Detroit

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    What is the GREAT advantage of repeaters ?
     
  18. HAL

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    You never ran out of repeaters. Not all of them are winners. Only those with defined parameters. Random is the unknown part aka future. Define your parameters and let random come to you. You can’t beat random, get aligned with it instead.
     
  19. Nathan Detroit

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    Thanks. But not mt my cup of tea . Dropped the EC also for inside combos .


    Smart move .
     
  20. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    WE believe in the NOW here is looking at you .


    Or LDS. Last Decision shows.
     

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