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TurboGenius Contradictions

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by GaryG, Dec 11, 2022.

  1. GaryG

    GaryG Active Member

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    Glad to see the teacher is back. @TurboGenius Hope you and your fam are doing great TG. Many of us are still working hard (even as right now I have the flu) at this. Would like to bring up some contradictions/confusions that maybe tg can cover without spilling the beans.

    1. Flat betting. For years you have said at RF an aggressive progression is needed. Now it works flat. Should we be running tests only flat?

    2. Horses. Your earlier threads in the roulette section this was about "sets" of numbers. And that the set "completes" better than the house payout. Now with the advantage of repeater series, it LOOKS like a focus on individual numbers..

    3. Gaps. Everyone is worried about gaps. However, I believe over at RF you have said "if you are worried about gaps you aren't doing it right". But as seen running columns there are gaps. This leads me to believe that playing the columns just the way you have shown (on YouTube) is not really the right way. Obviously you wouldn't just show how it works.


    4 laps. You have said "9 horses 4 laps". And I believe "12 wins in 229 spins". But your chart shows way more hits than that. Could you elaborate on this?. Looks like 9 sets of PREDETERMINED numbers.

    Obviously you don't have to respond. But it would "hopefully" help me and a few others that won't stop working on this.

    We just need a solid direction. Thanks tg
     
  2. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    GG
    I replied in other topic.
    But was it top 3 or top 9
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    Better to take 3000 to win 300 otherwise you'll have to jiggle the prog
     
  3. GaryG

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    I don't know what you are saying lol
     
  4. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    That says it all. No need to carry on.
     
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  5. GaryG

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    You are right. Taking 3k to make 300... No need for you to continue.
     
  6. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    GG
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    Betting top3 or top 9 horses.
    You'll have to work on it.
    Contradictions ?
     
  7. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Forget the 4 spins game; did a turbo.
    The 13 spins game +242. If 134 spins to get +297; why carry on the 13 spins game.
    3000? to win 300. If meter shows 270, stop 10% short of the 300.
    Dec 8 game why carry on. That's where gaps get you.
     

  8. GaryG

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    @Naughty but nice I respect your work. I really do. But these questions are for turbo or guys like Nimo or mako or others who are working on turbos stuff. You have your way. You have been playing your way for some time now.

    Please don't hijack this thread too.

    Thanks!
     
  9. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Not hijacking the topic.

    I showed 9 numbers, the top 9.

    Reason luck of the Irish data.
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    From the TG.

    So, as in reply 209 in more on 6 streets.

    There how to follow top3. If you use all top3, then you can use top9.

    As I said no need for me to carry on. You can stagger or blunder on.
    Perhaps you’re more liking the Dr saa answers.
     
  10. GaryG

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    NBN,
    This thread was about a few questions. You are off topic here. Again, I do respect your work. But do you have answers to my questions above? If not, you are hijacking.
     
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  11. Rulet

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    Depends on what's happening if three horses are galloping then fine, if not that means other horses have caught up, you have to include them or drop others and restart with a new horse, the worse case in that scenario is the dropped horses comeback. Some games it is unwinnable. Best advice is to stop and start when numbers caught up. The worse case scenario as turbo aptly alluded to is when 2 horses go ahead of each other one after another, that's only relevant when playing the leading horse only though
     
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    If you just play the leading horse you have to look out for the problem above and start playing 2 or even 3.
    If a horse wins too many laps in quick succession then hopefully you have made some coins, stop and wait other horses to catch up or abandon session altogether
     
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    Another thing I see quite often is say you play 3 horses at 3x and waiting for them to go 4x , the wheel spews out 15 other 3x number no 4x. What do you do there? And to make matters worse when 4x number comes its not one of your 3x numbers. This is the real problem with this system, when distribution is fairly even it doesn't work and those games are not rare
     
  14. Naughty but nice

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    Depends on what's happening if three horses are galloping then fine, if not that means other horses have caught up, you have to include them or drop others and restart with a new horse, the worse case in that scenario is the dropped horses comeback. Some games it is unwinnable. Best advice is to stop and start when numbers caught up. The worse case scenario as turbo aptly alluded to is when 2 horses go ahead of each other one after another, that's only relevant when playing the leading horse only though

    Rulet

    The opening post in part 3 the fancy excel that is hard to replicate. But.

    (Depends on what's happening if three horses are galloping then fine, if not that means other horses have caught up, you must include them or drop others and restart with a new horse, the worst case in that scenario is the dropped horses comeback. Some games it is unwinnable).

    You say above; If you look at the excel, don’t drop the 3-1x. Also don’t drop the 3-2x. Lap 3x you match all.

    Again, don’t drop any of the 1st 3, that’s 6 numbers.

    Lap 4x you have 2 of the 3. The #29 is added to the 6.

    Lap 5x you have 2 of the 3. The #5 is added making 7 to be bet. (Here is where you must work out how you stake).

    Laps 6-7-8-9 you match all. Lap10x, you match 2 and add the 25 to those being bet.

    You’re not even at 9 horses/ numbers being staked.

    Where’s the problem.
    Reply 9 Turbo is in blue talking of 9
     

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    1st 3. #8 was hot, plus #3. Spin 25, +227. What is the target? You can see #8 & #3 drop out of top 3; But they return. #8 get’s the 10%.
    Rulet see the gaps. You have to watch the prog.
    Look at the match totals for T3 & T9.

    Take from the riddles what you like. Contradictions? Well you can follow the ND & Dr SAA riddles LMAO
     
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    Turbo says you have to test these things yourself, well I have tested it and most of the times it doesn't work, what about that Turbs
     
  17. Ordinary_people

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    @GaryG

    I know what you mean contradiction about @TurboGenius say in this forum.

    Example about progression.

    In one thread he said and give example can win with flat bet, progression just make the winning amount better and faster. In another thread he said progression especially positive progression is a must.

    And another thread again he ever said use progression +1 -1 is enough. When maybe this can be interpret by some people to be a negative progression.

    So which the correct progression to use ?

    I really know that make your head confuse because i already reach that phase.

    I just want to give a little comment maybe that can help u.

    What he said i think all true. Really ? I think that question will pop in your mind.
    Yes.

    I think maybe the progression he use depend on which method he use.

    I say maybe because i am not turbo so i cannot 100℅ sure i am correct what i am saying.

    My advice is to read all thread make by turbo. You will get a lot of information. And hope with your creativity will make you a winner. If not still make you a better player. Lose smaller amount and decrease the loss frequency.

    I read all turbo thread in this forum and other forum if you want to know. And sometimes read again although i already read.

    I know of course that will consuming time. To read, test. But like of course you already know and some people said : that no short cut to be success. The important thing is how you get up if you failed. Of course in the journey you will ever failed and have a lot of obstacle.

    But dont give up.

    Thanks @TurboGenius for your spending time and give a free information to this forum although a lot people say you are scammer, liar, etc.

    Cheers
     
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  18. GaryG

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    @Ordinary_people thanks for the comment!

    I haven't given up and (hopefully) have made many strides in the correct direction.

    (Hopefully) haha

    I have also read and reread everything turbo has posted. From using the way back machine watching his dancing panda avatar, all the way to his recent posts.

    Working hard at it!

    Be well!
     
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  19. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Correct
     
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    You're welcome. Sometimes in analogy. Want to bang my head to the wall what TG said is all true but why cannot exploit that fact. Haha
     

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