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Baccarat Sputnik's Baccarat Corner

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Sputnik, Mar 23, 2023.

  1. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here is a tweak with March 1

    Singles versus Series

    Gives another approach using 1/3

    333 W
    332 W
    331 W
    323 W
    313 W
    322 W
    311 W
    321 W
    312 W

    222 W
    223 W
    221 W
    232 W
    212 W
    233 W
    211 W
    231 W
    213 W

    111 LLL
    113 LLW
    112 LLW
    133 LW
    122 LW
    121 LW
    131 LW
    123 LW
    131 LW

    Look at these results

    WWLWWLLWLLWW LLL LWWLWWW LLL LWWLLWWWLWWLLWWWLLWWWWLWLWLLWLLWLWWLLW LLL LWWLLW LLL WLLWLWWLWLWLWWWWWWLLWWLLWWLW LLL WWWWLLWWLLWLWWWWWLWWWLWLLWLWWWW

    Dispersion and imbalance would be twelve versus two or fourteen versus two which would be a 2,5/3,0 STD.
    It happens rarely.

    Is tempting to use this approach.

    Code:
    221 W
    313 W
    121 LW
    313 W   
    113 LLW   
    112 LLW   
    121 W   
    111 LLL   
    123 LW  
    211 W  
    132 LW   
    222 W  
    313 W  
    111 LLL   
    131 LW  
    211 W   
    112 LLW   
    211 W   
    311 W   
    132 LW   
    213 W  
    112 LLW  
    331 W   
    211 W   
    113 LLW   
    221 W   
    222 W   
    311 W  
    132 LW   
    132 LW  
    112 LLW  
    112 LLW.   
    121 LW   
    231 W   
    112 LLW  
    111 LLL   
    122 LW  
    321 W   
    113 LLW  
    111 LLL   
    313 W  
    113 LLW   
    121 LW   
    231 W   
    131 LW  
    121 LW   
    132 LW   
    311 W  
    311 W   
    212 W   
    322 W   
    113 LLW   
    231 W   
    112 LLW
    233 W
    133 LW   
    111 LLL  
    311 W  
    312 W   
    311 W  
    312 W   
    112 LLW  
    333 W   
    112 LLW  
    123 LW   
    332 W  
    231 W  
    311 W  
    231 W   
    121 LW  
    211 W   
    232 W   
    131 LW   
    113 LLW   
    131 LW   
    233 W   
    213 W   
    213 W 
    
    Cheers
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2023
  2. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    They have identical results - singles versus series - & - series versus singles - this just proves there are as many of both -

    March 1 Variant 1

    LWWWWWWLWW LLL LWWWLWWLWLWWLWWLLWLWWLLW LLL LWWWWWWLLWWWWLLWWWLWWWLLWWWWLWLWLW LLL WLLWW LLL WWLWLWLWLWW LLL WW LLL LLWLWLLWWLW LLL WWW LLL LWLW

    March 1 Variant 2

    WWLWWLLWLLWW LLL LWWLWWW LLL LWWLLWWWLWWLLWWWLLWWWWLWLWLLWLLWLWWLLW LLL LWWLLW LLL WLLWLWWLWLWLWWWWWWLLWWLLWWLW LLL WWWWLLWWLLWLWWWWWLWWWLWLLWLWWWW

    Cheers
     
  3. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    When I look at these LW-Registrys I can see how following the LLL sequence would perform well and after the first loss switch back.
    That would give a pretty solid way to play on a rolling basis.

    But all combinations have their Black Swan so even this one but is a start.

    There is a point when to hold a bet and wait for a fictive win so the march within the march would look like this when translating the output into decision-making.

    1) Bet on a rolling basis until three losses, then bet the losses will continue, and if yes, continue until the first loss and then start over betting on a rolling basis.
    2) Bet on a rolling basis until three losses, then bet the losses will continue, and if no,, switch back and bet on a rolling basis.

    3) If both 1 & 2 fail you have LLL W LLL and can continue repeating, option wait for a fictive win and then start over with 1 & 2 or do nothing and stick with 1 & 2.

    I can not come up with a better solution at the moment, but after some reflection, there might come up with other solutions.

    Cheers
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2023
  4. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    March 1 - winning two in a row -

    You wait for three groups with a series of two then attack until you get two groups with no series of two.

    WLWW
    WLWW
    WLWW
    WLWLWLWLWLWW
    WLLWLLLWW
    LWW
    LWW
    WLWW
    WW
    WLLWLLLL

    - - -

    LWLLWW
    LWLWW
    LWW
    WW
    WW
    LLWLLLL

    - - -

    WLLLWLL

    - - -

    WLWW
    LLWLWW
    LLWW
    WW
    WLLWLWLWL

    - - -

    WLWLWW
    WW
    LWW
    WLLWLLLWL

    - - -

    Code:
    122
    312
    221
    322 wlww
    321 wlww
    321 wlww
    333 wlwlwl
    332 wlwlww
    313 wllwl
    112 llww
    121 lww
    122 lww
    321 wlww
    211 ww
    313 wllwl
    111 lll
    132
    133
    233
    211
    113
    112
    221
    312
    131 lwll
    233 ww
    132 lwlww
    121 lww
    213 ww
    212 ww
    113 llwl
    111 lll
    121
    112
    222
    311 wll
    131 lwll
    133
    213
    131
    131
    111
    111
    321
    312
    321
    321 wlww
    113 llwl
    232 ww
    112 llww
    231 ww
    311 wll
    333 wlwlwl
    211
    322
    332
    332 wlwlww
    221 ww
    122 lww
    313 wllwl
    113 llwl
    
     
  5. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Hello, AsymBacGuy and Jimskey and all ...
    The following is as close or near science approach you can get with math and probability, to tackle even money bets.

    This playing model is Singles versus larger series.
    I show the imbalance and the regression so you all can make the same observations as me.

    I use random org exclusively so no one can argue about true values and curve fitting.

    Regression towards the mean - Variants 1 & 2

    First, I want to mention that this is not how you bet, this is how you observe regression towards the mean.
    How it behaves and unfolds in real life with random bits from random org.
    We want to see the regression’s behaviour as small, medium and large chunks of correction.

    Variant 1

    We can get a series of three with no larger series and still the STD will drop and get weaker as they strike several times in a row, regression towards the mean.
    Here we are interested in the gaps between the series of three and the opposite to that, the series of two, with no value, to show us the gaps between strikes and no strikes (value and no value).

    So to visualise this, I will use a plus sign for a series of three ( + ) and a minus sign for a series of two ( - ).
    And with larger series, we will get several plus signs in a row.

    Variant 2

    Here we get chunks of series of three and larger series to strike as part of regression towards the mean.
    A mix of both.

    So this is how I want to get a visual over the regression.
    Where the main idea is to see how +1 value and beyond strike after a strong imbalance.
    After some samples of visualisation, we can start to talk about how to approach and bet on regression using a predefine march to catch those attractive events.
     
  6. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sequence 1 from TRNG (random org) 2023-04-05

    Imbalance 3,15 STD

    R
    R
    RR
    R
    R
    RR
    RR
    R
    RR
    R
    R
    R
    RR
    RR
    RR
    R
    RR
    RR
    RR
    RRR
    R
    RRR
    RR
    R
    R
    R
    R
    RR
    R
    RR

    - - - 15 singles versus 2 series of three
    - - - Regression Unfold

    3 series of three
    2 series of four
    1 series of five
    1 series of seven
    1 series of ten

    - - -

    RRRR
    R
    R
    RR
    RR
    RR
    RR
    RRR
    R
    R
    R
    RRRRRRR
    RR
    RRRRRRRRRR
    R
    RRRR
    RR
    RR
    RRR
    RRRRR
    RRR
    R
    RR
    RR

    Visualisation:

    ++
    -
    -
    -
    -
    +
    +++++
    -
    ++++++++
    ++
    -
    -
    +
    +++
    +
    -
    -
     
  7. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sequence 2 from TRNG (random org) 2023-04-04

    Imbalance 2,98 STD

    RRR
    R
    R
    R
    R
    R
    R
    R
    R
    R
    R
    R
    R
    R

    - - - 13 singles versus 1 series of three
    - - - Regression Unfold

    RRRR
    RRR
    RRR
    R
    R
    RRR
    R
    R
    R
    RRRRRR
    RR
    R

    Regression Events:

    3 series of three
    1 series of four
    1 series of six

    Visualisation:

    ++
    +
    +
    +
    ++++
    -
     

  8. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sequence 3 from TRNG (random org) 2023-04-04

    Imbalance 3,15 STD

    B
    B
    B
    B
    BB
    BB
    BB
    B
    BBB
    B
    BB
    B
    B
    B
    BBB
    BB
    B
    B
    B
    BB
    BB
    B
    BB
    B
    BB
    R
    BB

    - - - 15 singles versus 2 series of three
    - - - Regression Unfold

    BBB
    BBB
    BB
    BB
    B
    B
    BB
    BB
    B
    B
    BBBBB
    B
    B
    B
    B
    BBBB
    B
    B
    BBB

    Regression Events:

    3 series of three
    1 series of four
    1 series of five

    Visualisation:

    +
    +
    -
    -
    +++
    ++
    +
     
  9. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sequence 4 from TRNG (random org) 2023-04-04

    Imbalance 3,15 STD

    B
    B
    BB
    B
    B
    B
    B
    BB
    B
    BBB
    B
    B
    B
    B
    B
    B
    BB

    - - - 13 singles versus 1 series of three
    - - - Regression Unfold

    BBBB
    BBB
    B
    B
    BBBBB
    B
    BBBBBB
    B
    BBBBB
    B
    BB

    Regression Events:

    1 series of three
    1 series of four
    2 series of five
    1 series of six

    Visualisation:

    ++
    +
    +++
    ++++
    +++
    -
     
  10. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sequence 5 from TRNG (random org) 2023-04-05

    Imbalance 3,15 STD

    B
    R
    B
    RR
    B
    R
    B
    RR
    BB
    R
    B
    RR
    B
    R
    BB
    RRR
    B
    RRR
    B
    R
    BB
    R
    BB
    R

    - - - 15 singles versus 2 series of three
    - - - Regression Unfold

    BBBB
    R
    BB
    R
    B
    R
    BBB
    R
    BB
    RR
    BBBBBB
    R
    BB
    RRR
    B
    RRRR
    B
    RR
    BBB
    R
    B
    R
    B
    R
    B
    BBB

    Regression Events:

    4 series of three
    2 series of four
    1 series of six

    Visualisation:

    ++
    -
    +
    -
    -
    ++++
    -
    +
    -
    ++
    -
    +
    +
     
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  11. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I got back to AsymBacGuy's W, LW, LL it is an excellent concept in many ways.
    Also another method, flat betting 7500 outcomes with a 7,3% edge over the casino, works on baccarat and all other even money bets.
    The Author made the system for another table game, but I succeeded in transforming it and getting it to work with even money bets.

    But at the moment I don't feel like sharing as there is so little participation.

    Cheers
     
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  12. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Beat The Casino and Ellis is right about one thing that I can confirm to be a very solid approach.
    And is in line with the AsymBacGuy approach (both ways) singles and strikes with the W, LW, and LL concepts.
    Both end up with the same way to tackle the march which is almost the ultimate solution playing on a rolling basis.

    I touch on this area before but used the wrong concept to achieve the right solution for a march on a rolling basis.
    BTC talk about system 40 and F3 and I will show how they perform the same way as using the AsymBacGuy approach in both directions.

    Now if you see a single you bet for singles and if you see a series of three you bet for strikes.
    But is a bit more complex.

    If you get a single you play singles and a series of two until two lose and you have a series of three.
    If you have a series of three you play FTL until one single show and you will have two losses.
    Now you switch back to singles and series of two.
    If you start a show with neither and have a series of two, then they are neutral, so you don't bet until you have a single or a series of three.

    Now I can prove this method is solid betting in both directions.
    Is not working flat betting, but is a steady stream of winnings versus small chunks of losses.

    Adding the principle of holding a bet when the tram goes against you is rare and almost not necessary where the largest group of loses chunks into pairs of four LL, LL,

    Sample 1 of 2

    LWWLWWLWLL
    WLL
    WWLWLL
    LL
    LWLWLL
    WWWWWLL
    WLWWLWLWLWLL
    WWLWWWLWLWWLL
    LWWWLL
    WWLWWWLL
    LWWLL
    WWLWWLWLL
    WLL
    WLWWLL
    LL
    WLWLL
    WWLWWLWWLWWLL
    LWLWWWWLL
    LL
    WWWLWLL
    WWWWLL
    LWWWWWLWWWWWWLWWLL
    WLWLWWWLL
    WWLWWLWWWWWLL
    LL
    LWLL
    WWWWLWLWLWLL
    LWLL.
    WLL
    WLWLL
    LWLWWLWWLWWLL
    LL
    LWLL
    LL
    WWWWLWLL
    LWLWLWLWWLWWWWLWWWWWLWLWWLWWLWLL
    LL
    WWWWLL
    WWLWLWLWLL
    LWLL
    LW

    Sample 2 of 2

    WWWLL
    WLWWLL
    LL
    LL
    LWWWLL
    WLWLWWLL
    LWWLL
    LWWLWWLL
    WLL
    WLL
    WLL
    WWWWLWLWWLWWWLWWLL
    LWWLL
    LWLWWWLL
    LWLWLWWWWWWWWWWLWLL
    LWLL
    WLL
    LWLL
    LL
    LL
    LWLWWWWWLWWWWLWLWWLWLWLWLWLWWWWWLL
    LL
    WWWWWWWWWWWWLL
    LWLWWLL
    WWWWLWLL
    WWWWLL
    LWLL
    LL
    WWLWWLWWLL
    LL
    LL
    WLWWLL
    WLL
    LWWLL
    LWWWLL
    LWLL
    LWLL
    WLWLL
    LL
    WWLL
    WWWWWWLL
    LWWWLL
    WLWLL
    WLL
    WLL
    WWLWLL
    LL
    WWLL
    LL
    LL
    WWLWL
     
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  13. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    One detail about NORM who used a loop of 12 up on a positive - if I remember correctly.
    I notice that the LW chops are several between and within strikes so I try a 1 1,5 loop with very good results.

    And I will quote one punter.

    Press and pull when winning.
    Hold a bet or bet small when losing.

    I have forgotten about this, squeeze out as much we can when we win and keep a low profile when the tram goes against us.
    This put me back to Brett Morton's excellent fund management.

    Cheers
     
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    fathead Well-Known Member

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    So waiting for 2 losses in a row before switching? The losing streak would be 3-2-3-2-3? Or 3-1-3-1-3?


    BBBPPBBBPP?

    or

    BBBPBBBP?
     
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  15. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have not worked out the triggers yet but I will show you the two random walks passing each other.

    The first random walk start after one single appears B P then you play for singles and a series of two B P B PP B P BB P B PP BB P B P B
    until two losses and you get a series of three in a row BBB/PPP that gives us W, LW, LL

    The second random walk starts after one series of three appears PPP and you bet it will strike PPPPP and you continue betting for series even if there is a loss PPPPP BBB PP BB follow the last until you get a switch and one single BBB PP BB P B that results with two loses LL and here you also have W, LW, LL.

    Either one side is dominating or either one random walk is dominating.
    And sometimes they switch between themself where you get at most two losses.

    One more detail, staking 23 and a fourth bet 4 end up with +1 using a positive progression and also works as a loop 23.
    The best of two worlds, not yet tested.

    Here are two samples from random org 2023-04-10 and 2023-04-11
    To the left random walk 1 to the right random walk 2 (LW-Registry)

    They overlap nicely and when they strike you get several W and LW segments.

    Code:
    1
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    1 W L   
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    2 L W
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    1 L
    1 L
    2 W L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    2 W L
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    1 W L
    1 L W
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    1 W L
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    2 W L
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    2 W L
    1 W L
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W.
    2 L W
    1 W L
    2 W L
    2 L
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    2 W L
    1 W L
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    1 L W
    1 L W
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    1 L
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    2 L W
    2 L W
    1 W L
    2 W L
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    1 L
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    2 L W
    2 L W
    2 L W
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    1 L
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    2 W L
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    2 L W
    1 W L
    2 W L
    2 L
    2 L
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    1 L
    1 L
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 L W
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    1 W L
    1 L
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    2 W L
    1 W L
    2 W
    1 W
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    1 L W
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    1 L W
    2 W L
    2 L W
    1 W L
    2 W L
    2 L
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    2 W L
    2 L W
    
    Code:
    1
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    1 L W
    1 L W   
    2 L W
    1 W L
    2 W L
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    1 W
    1 L
    1 L
    2 W L
    1 W L
    1 L
    1 L
    1 L
    2 W L
    2 L W
    2 L W   
    2 L W
    1 W L
    2 W L
    1 W
    1 L
    2 W
    2 L
    1 W
    2 W
    2 L
    2 L
    1 W L
    1 L W
    1 L W    
    2 W L
    1 W L
    1 L
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  16. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Hope that helps ...

    Cheers
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2023
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