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Baccarat Manhattan Progression 2-1-2

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Baccarat game, Jul 18, 2023.

  1. Baccarat game

    Baccarat game New Member

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    Hi all, I'm using the 2-1-2 Manhattan progression system very well.
    I have 1 question.
    But when 2 starting unit wins continue 2 or 1?

    If 2 unit loses, continue 2 or 1?

    Another question is the Manhattan progession when I win whit 2 unit (only) the 3 betting on the 3 I will go 4-5-6 etc.


    I await your news.
     
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  2. CT70

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  3. CT70

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    Never bet 2 units until you have won the 1 unit. When you do win the 2, then next bet should be 1 unit again. By going back to 1 you are essentially locking in a win, regardless of if you win or lose the next hand. That is the beauty of a 1-2 loop as it’s called.
     
  4. Baccarat game

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    Ok when win 2unit starting restarting 1.ok thanks you.
    But when lose 2? Need continue 2 -2-2-2 ecc?
     
  5. judge

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    CT70....let's say I'm up 3U and I bet the 2U, then W or L
    I go back to 1U betting. Now do I bet 1U until I win and then go to 2U or do I wait until I'm +3 again to bet 2U? Thanks in advance.
     
  6. Zhang Wei

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    Could you share your style of using the progression?
     
  7. Punkcity

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    My fav, I always start at a 2 unit bet .
    Here are my only scenarios I ever use.
    Beginning of daily sessions , start of week, start of month.
    Start 2u
    Win (+2)
    Drop to 1u bet next bet (+1)
    Win (+3)
    Next bet 1 u (+2)
    Win (+4)
    Next bet 2u (+2)
    Win (+6)
    Next bet 3u (+3)
    Win (+9)
    Next bet 4 u (+5)
    Lose
    Profit +5u.
    End session. Have profit

    Scenario lose first bet
    Start 2 u
    Lose (-2)
    Next bet 2 UNITS (-4)
    Lose(-4)
    Next bet 2 units (-6)
    Lose (-6)

    Decision time
    End session? Exit point 1 if this session follows first session then yes exit, at -1 unit for combine session.
    No decision , then play on at whatever the personal rule has been triggered.

    Next session
    Start bet 2 units
    Lose(-2)
    Next bet 2 u(-4)
    Win (=)
    Next bet 2u (-2)
    Win (+2)
    Next bet 1u (+1)
    Lose (+1)
    Exit point decision.

    This is my third session of day ( 15 minutes work in about 1 hour table hopping, having a break between sessions etc) I’m even for the day can go do other things as it’s a marathon not a sprint
    I CAN come back tomorrow refreshed and double, triple highest win of this day no pressure.

    I have found this is the simplest and less stressful method for ME. I have posted on another thread I started all the reasons so I will not rehash here.

    I have found that at 6 straight wins I’m returning a high profit, at 8 plus straight wins I’m at table maximum often using casinoverse money. I tend to favour the stadium baccarat format as I can and do play up to 3 terminal at the needed max bet level.

    Yes I can and do play live tables at a much higher max limit but the 12 minutes approximately it takes on preferred stadiums , it can take 1 to 2 hours of live table play due to so many people jumping on the band wagon, stadiums automated payment,versus live is hand pay chip by dealer x 10 plus people etc = hours.

    Chip up on the winning, flat bet 2u on the losses , have a rule in place, be it entire shoe play, part shoe, hit and run , etc etc whatever YOU are bankroll comfortable with, have a plan. Cheers
     
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  8. Punkcity

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    My bad
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    I meant to include after that exit point decision
    IF
    I decided to continue at this point my next bet is 100% all the time is restarting at a
    2 unit bet then I recycle through the same 3 variants as per already posted in my previous post.

    This is mainly because I flat bet per-say , the 2 unit start allows for profit protection on first win etc , also allowing to press on a win streak or reign in moderate loss streak etc.
    I just wanted to clarify what to do if you got to that stage and wanted to continue. Cheers good luck.
     
  9. CT70

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    As soon as you win the next 1u bet, then next bet is 2 units. You don’t have to wait until you’re back to your original score to bet the 2.
    Most people bet more when they’re losing to “catch up” but the worst time to increase your unit size is when you’re losing. It’s a natural tendency that you need to avoid.
     
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  10. Zhang Wei

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    Most people use negative progressions.
     
  11. Punkcity

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    Does not make it the right way. Plenty of degenerate gamblers out there, I personally thank them for their wasteful donations to the casinoverse. Historically it’s a fact chasing your losses by increasing your bet size , martybationism, fibbobationism, etc you are just delusional, you are a degenerate gambler.

    Let me be perfectly clear Zhang Wei, I’m NOT calling you a degenerate loser , I have no evidence you are one, I’m using the word YOU as the generic label to address the statement of people of degenerate inclination living on planapearth .
    Cheers
     
  12. Zhang Wei

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    Baccarat is a hobby to me.
    I am just playing $1 units.
    If you have to borrow money to gamble, then I would consider you as degenerate.
     
  13. CT70

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    Yes you’re right. Negative will work pretty good but will eventually fail because most people have less than a 50% hit rate (bet selection). I prefer to flat bet. All I need to do is get more right bets than wrong. Any kind of negative progression will lose in the long run.
     
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