TurboGenius Note Keeping From Live Play

A little thread to show results, or for testing purposes.
This is from live play - using first to 1x,2x,3x, etc. and making predictions
on what number(s) to play based on expected results.
In my past charts and examples I showed a "matching" column - and my
goal is for a 2 out of a possible 3 result. (each dozen played as it's own section)
So let's see how it goes as I don't know the outcome when typing this.
But it's for experimental purposes, not too concerned with results.

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Spins as they appear, along with "prediction/bets" placed.
8.27.2023 single 0 live wheel, $10.00 initial base unit size.

21
26
19
9
26 (begin bet on 9 and 21)
14
10
4
20
33
6
29
25
9 win (remove bets as 2x goal of 2 matches is achieved)
21
1
27
12
0
32
35
29
15
33
31
2
17
33 (begin bet on 9 and 21)
15
34
0
10
9 win (remove bets as 3x goal of 2 matches is achieved)
14
19
24
34
10
17
20
16
11
21
29
25
30
29 (begin bet on 9 and 21)
32
29
9 win (bet on 21 remains as goal is not met)
27
13
10
1
19
28
13
14
1
33
5
0
13
22
36
6
18
19 (bet removed from 21 and now 9 and 19 are bet)
33
35
19 (bets removed as 4x goal of 2 matches is achieved.

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$860.00 profit flat bet

 

The timing of this post is uncanny, as I was just testing a new theory I thought of based on hot numbers using the horse race analogy over on RX

 

The problem will be the same as always, how to handle sessions where early on you get 0 or 1 match only and at later "laps" the gaps between hits/matches always grow. Also with the variant shown a dozen might lag significantly while you dont play leading dozen and its number (assuming its same hot number in that dozen) the 3rd dozen even if you catch a win here and there might not be enough. Will await your other examples to see how you handle other situations where hits in dozens dont come in an even spread like here.
For example
9
11
23
34
23 play 9 and 34 from now on
16
1
3
8
33
31
36
4
6
21
20
16
13
23 (now 23 is at 3x do you still play to catch 2nd match on 2x, I assume yes)
10
11 (remove 9, play 11 as candidate for 3x and still play 34 as candidate for 2x second match)
23 (23 at 4x already)
36 (remove 34, play 11 and 36)

And so on...a win will come eventually but the higher lap we'll be in the more spins it'll take between hits so higher the cost.

 

Yes, not every session is going to be great. Today was drawn out and the results were not as nice, but
overall it's still amazing.

143 spins and -7 units, but given yesterday's results that is still impressive.
The 2x matches were not happening, just enough to break/stay even.

 

Hi @TurboGenius! You wrote a good quote for a while, and I still regret that I didn't ask you about it, trying to figure it out myself, but I couldn't. So I want to ask you about it:

I searched in your messages, on the Internet, etc., but I did not understand what kind of bell curve it is, or rather how to do it? Can you suggest or direct how to compose it correctly in order to see what you wrote in the quote? I hope you will help with this issue.

 

Hi Gigi!
I have tested a lot this year, especially in recent months, but in general, no matter what tests I do, the essence of the problem is always the same, and this is what you wrote. I make my own selection of numbers, and tried to find the "ideal", or close to it, to choose the right numbers, which is the basis, but always in any tests there is such that numbers, say from 3x to 4x, do not appear at all for 36, and even about 50 spins, no matter how much choose the right numbers. Yes, on the one hand, it would be possible to just wait it out, but at this time a good negative bankroll may turn out. Yes, and wait so long for a real casino, well, somehow....
I also studied the averages. Something has come to me this year, some things, although it would seem they are elementary, but nevertheless, I want to say in the end that I decided for myself based on my tests of all kinds, including averages, that Vaddy was right - if repeats do not apear, then singles is apearing. If the singles don't apear, then the repeats apearing.
This is something I'm testing a lot right now. It's still primitive, but I really like it. I need to find what to choose correctly and how to put it. You don't have enough numbers, so I'll show you on the Turbo numbers:

it's a bit primitive, and there were numbers that I would have bet too and they didn't fall out, but there are much more winning ones, which doesn't prevent this from happening, so this is what for me to become a victory in these horse races. I haven't seen anything else in all these years. Ideally, according to Turbo messages, it's all about patterns, but I was able to figure out what these patterns are, I only know one pattern - 2\3. I have not found others, because Turbo speaks their tones of them. So I will try with this.

 

He likely means to run sessions betting hottest number flat, after multiple sessions you should notice a pattern for example on avg after spin 200 playing just hottest isnt giving profit or that after "lap" 15x same happens.
Then again remember another quote from Turbo to never just stay on the leader, unless both mean same thing - bet leader but only for X amount of spins then drop it and wait or change number.

 

What's the trigger to stop your session?
And yes one should not expect to always end in profit (seen a session on rng yesterday where first 4x came on spin 65 only and by spin 77 there were only two of these still)

 

Well, no. Not 200 spins? 2-3 cycles is the maximum that can be. And due to the fact that the session may be negative, well, this is nonsense. Remember Denzi, he always said he was always on the winning side, every session. But it should be clear anyway. 143 spins and the session is in the negative. I have the opportunity to play only b and m casinos. 143 spins it can be about 6 hours. the whole day, and to end negatively is nonsense. In addition, you will have to sit at the table for the entire session for 6 hours so as not to miss the numbers. I can imagine what will happen to the bladder after that.
And what about the first quote, - again, not 15x. If we take Turbo messages, as everyone who found them advised, then Turbo does not play on hot numbers, as shown here and in all 4 parts, but on numbers that become hot. This should have been clear in all tests long ago. So the question is when to reset the numbers? I found a way for myself, which also belongs to Turbo, to play not only repetitions, so that the session lasts 2-3 cycles maximum. I don't know the other one yet.

P.S. Looked again 143 spin Turbo... there are no all numbers, at 143 by 8x it is quite near the average. But he played flat. If you play with a progression, and he guessed the last 7x and 8x, then I think that with the progression he would come out in a plus. And he has to go out in plus. If there's one thing I realized during the tests, it's that the longer you play, the more you should have a bet in the end, even with such simple examples, the accuracy still increases, and this bet compensates for time with progression, and in fact accuracy, if it didn't work out right away, and when winning you'll be in a good plus. BUT, as we know, this accuracy is still not always accurate, and then the progression will ruin you

 

Dude, I only gave 200 spins as an example since you've asked what Turbo meant.

 

If Turbo told us the two pinches of salt... I think that in 2 cycles reaching x4 and restarting we would be correct.

 

So today it's back on track.
101 spins total
+$570.00

3 day total +$1,360.00

Here for example you can see that the chart is triggering the end of play.
There's no point in going for the dozen 3 number because the goal of 2 matches is accomplished.
I could wait for the 8x to appear but that could mean charting for a while until a number makes it.
It would work but already up in profit so much that it's fine to just stop.
The chart will dictate when the stopping point is most of the time.
If not, then you can choose to exit when you want.
I know the average in the matching column is a reliable 2+ so in this game the 1,2,1,1
is telling me that 2's and 3's are probably going to happen. Since I'm only trying for 2 matches which is below what's expected.. "I can't lose" (lol, had to throw that in, sorry).

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update - the 6x column in the matches should be "1+? at end"
My error when typing it up. Technically I could still play for the 31 to win
which would make the "matches" column 2+
My mistake, could have won more. lol

 

That's a shame that your spin speed is so low.
Live wheel and dealer in Atlantic City online here 1 min per spin, even in the casino it's not that slow here.
On a side note - playing the entire day and only down 7 units is amazing considering most people
are done with their bankroll in the first hour. Overall since I started posting this, the 7 unit loss is nothing
to the overall profit and is considered a win.

 

Just like in first example as you stopped after winning on 9 at 3x but that was only first match, 2nd coming later with 21
With this approach you're never on a leading (hottest) number, but also not betting if all numbers get stuck at certain x level/lap
I guess prog not needed (although I've run few tests with wrong assumptions that I only bet if there is already 1 match not like you did that the lap is just opened by new or existing hot leading number) but could increase profit even with simple +1 if non-match happens.
I guess you were showing us this before, just without the dozen constraint.

 

Yup

 

Good post!!. We will wait for more turbo sessions.
Perhaps, a good option is to only start betting when the first match is reached, seeking our goal of two matches. That way we can avoid those cases in which there is no match.

 

Example:

 

This is how it would look playing regular horse race, but waiting for a match before betting

 

Betting as soon as next lap is opened to get to 2 matches


And below is chart for Turbo's run just correcting the mistake of not following up to get 2nd match at lap 3x

 

Session taken from random Wiesbaden table


20 was leading very early (staying on it of course would increase profit, but as soon as 6 hits 3x, its the only number you play and catches up quickly). No point playing further as would likely mean a longer wait and time is money!