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Rewards and recognition system?

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Comments / Criticisms / Problems' started by albalaha, Feb 23, 2015.

  1. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    If you want to make this place unique and the best with quality posts, put rewards and recognition system to the finest contributors. That should work for every active section. Likes, viewerships and replies and uniqueness of the content should be assessed before deciding who deserves to be felicitated.
    I suggested a tipster competition for sports betting section. Same can be done to all the active sections having valuable, unique and useful posts. This can bring in life to the juiceless forum and motivate quality posts.
    Thank you.
     
  2. Admin Team

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    We are open to this idea.

    What should we recognize? Post Count (quantity)? Number of Likes (quality)? Some combination of the two? Something else?

    Folks, please let us know your ideas and suggestions for a rewards and recognition system, and please justify the pros/cons of your suggestions so we can have an open and informed debate about the best way of implementing this system.
     
  3. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    I believe higher post counts can be obtained even by nodding, clapping or empty comments over others' valuable posts. The topics starter and likes received over that plus viewership and reply count should be assessed. Motivation is the core of hardwork. If we motivate useful writings, we will flourish like a nice community otherwise end up being just one among dozens others.
     
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  4. Sharron Powers

    Sharron Powers New Member Founding Member

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    I belong to several forums and (imo) you don't ever want to reward someone for the number of posts! Quality over quantity is what's needed otherwise the forum will become inundated with nothing but fluff just so they can get points. If there is a way to assess quality then the number of posts can be a factor.
     
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  5. Admin Team

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    "Likes" are the communities way of saying "thanks for a great quality post", so in theory, the number of Likes should roughly correlate with quality, with the more Likes a post receives, the greater its perceived quality. It's not a perfect metric but should be good enough for our purposes. However, the total number of Likes a member has received does not -- by itself -- gives us enough information about the quality of their contributions since we would need to take their Post Count into account.

    So we don't want to encourage fluff posts (just quantity) and we don't want to encourage a single post with a lot of Likes (just quantity). What we want is to maximize the number of quality posts. So instead of using Post Count or Likes, what about combining the two and recognizing members who have a high "Likes to Posts" ratio (LTP)?

    For example, an LTP of 0.5 would mean a member has received an average of 1 like for every 2 of their posts.

    If a new member joins and only makes 1 very high quality post that receive 10 Likes and never posts again, they will have a very high LTP of 10 but the sample size of their posts will be too small to really judge them on, so we should only reward and recognize members that have a high LTP AND a minimum Post Count of at least X. This would rewards members post a lot of high quality content and therefore create an incentive to maximize the number of quality posts.

    Consider 3 members:

    Member A: 1,000 posts with an LTP of 1.
    Member B: 10,000 posts with an LTP of 0.1.
    Member C: 10 posts with an LTP of 10.

    All else being equal, we should probably recognize Member A above Members B and C.

    What do you folks think about using the LTP combined with a Minimum Post Count as the basis for recognition?
     
  6. Thomas Gallagher

    Thomas Gallagher Member Lineage to Founders

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    I agree 100! Quality vs Quanity!
     
  7. Mike Exinger

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    Agreed - I rarely post (I read a lot more - just nosy, I guess), and it's quality that counts. Someone could win an award via quantity for a bunch of "me too" posts, and that's not the way it works. That's not how any of this works.
     
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  8. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    Hundreds of quality posts are not so easy. Many of the members here are authors too and may not want to talk too much or put what they have kept exclusive for their books/sites. In such case, even if someone has contributed only 10 posts but his posts are gems for the community, he should be rewarded/felicitated. Maybe such recognition motivates him enough to write further. Quality should prevail over quantity, in my humble opinion.
     
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  9. VegasGalPoker

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    I think that people should participate for the sake of it, not for a reward. Like donating to a charitable cause. When I know I'm heading downtown or to Sahara Avenue I make sure to have fruit or individually wrapped energy bars and bottles of water to give to (panhandling) people at the stop lights. No 501(c)(3) taxable donation forms, just for the sake of doing the right thing. I find people, if given the chance to do the right thing, often do. No need for the carrot at the end of a stick. Give the forum a chance to grow on its own before admitting defeat and offering a carrot to encourage active participation. I enjoy posting here sinmply for the feedback. I don't know any gamblers who don't want feedback. Make the feedback the reward. Promote the feedback as the reward-not a giftcard, not a buyin. Just poker pros help or VP pros advice or craps experts advice, etc. Isn't that what this forum was created for in the first place?
     
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  10. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    @VegasGalPoker,
    It is not only the monetary reward that matters, it is the recognition of the best work that boosts morale and motivates to do more. Why Emmy awards, Oscars, Nobel, Booker Prize etc are given? Every country has gallantry awards and many literary awards and honors. Should they be discarded and discontinued? Competition brings in quality, efforts and innovations.
    -----With great power comes great responsibility.
     
  11. VegasGalPoker

    VegasGalPoker Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    So you agree with me, yes? That's what I'm saying. Its doing good works for the forum for the sake of doing them. Should others chose to regognize them, that's great. But the doing is the reward...to me, anyway. I'm different from most people.


     
  12. Sharron Powers

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    The 'recognition' IS the reward... and what is trying to be decided here is 'what' that recognition is... points, etc. So it's never truly about doing it for the sake of doing it! Most people want to feel their 'work' is at the very least appreciated and a points system is an outward measure of this. Not perfect but it is something.
     
  13. VegasGalPoker

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    Ah ha! I finally get. I AM SO THICK! TYVM.
     
  14. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    You can not do something for the sake of getting recognition or appreciation. It will follow in spontaneous way. If people will like your posts, they will show that with likes and replies. Simple.
    Just keep doing good work. Motivating good works is the sole motive behind rewards and recognition and is an accepted and rather welcomed mode in all fields.
     

  15. Sharron Powers

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  16. Sharron Powers

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    Isolating that specific part of my comment gives it a negative connotation which was not intended... sorry!
     

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