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Baccarat Streak Win and Lose

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by pacific88, Jan 23, 2024.

  1. Duongban1984

    Duongban1984 Member

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    I just passed my bet. Includes 105 bets, with ratio: 50 winning games - 55 losing games (47.6%) However, because I used my MM, the loss amount sometimes reached 25 units (it was difficult). However, I won at the end with 6 units (commission included). My MM includes 2 parts: 1. use aggressive progression and if lose I continue with (2) 2. I use the unit size in steps every time I run again, according to the Fibonacci scale 1.2.3.5 sometimes I go further 8. and 15
     
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  2. cps10

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    Thanks for that explanation of your methodology @Duongban1984
     
  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have met the Dr. and played once with him and his wife. In fact, he turned me on to Stetson Bailey's stuff which I got a lot out of. He had some interesting ideas. Sent me one of his later iterations for $100.00. LOL First and only method I ever purchased. I think he took most of it from that guy "Iplayforaliving.com". The Dr. spent a ton of money on systems over the years. I don't know what he's up to now. Probably growing old like the rest of us!!!

    But reasons we don't get complete winning methods described are that none exist and are not, as soxfan has pointed out, teachable. The reason they are not is that, IMO, there is no bet selection that can achieve a practical profitable profit after commission without some subjective element. (soxfan's "Surewun I" and "Surewin II" included).

    So everyone has their own bet selection structure and staking ideas but all need to make certain subjective adjustments from time to time. Frankly, If my own method(s) were PROVEN to be practical and profitable I'd be happy to divulge them!!

    Cheers
     
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  4. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    @Jimske especially a winning method that is flat bet only. We all know that’s impossible. Or at least covered up to us.
     
  5. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Yeah, I agreed but then.... I looked at my registry which I then stopped bothering because I'm pretty sure it will not maintain that high % and I'm mostly interested in the unit win not the WIAR. But. .. I counted 14 6+WIAR so not so exceedingly rare.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krQUP6lVXjJu_h30GyqdiE2HVs93P0AFVLOr-34xgyk/edit?usp=drivesdk
     
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  6. baccarou

    baccarou Active Member

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    Jimske, I tried to look at your file but it said access denied. I asked for permission using my ''roosters'' email account just in case you are wondering who asked for permission.
     
  7. baccarou

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    Well, it's good to know at least that he plays the game.


    It would be a very painstaking endeavour to teach every little nuance of a complex strategy and it's almost guaranteed that two different players would be making completely different bets some of the time using my strategy because we wouldn't think exactly alike in such a short space of time.
     
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  8. baccarou

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    The thing with WIAR is that they could be anything. They don't have to be BBBBBB or BPBPBP or BBPPBB and they don't have to be in consecutive spins either. It's going to be hard to get a conventional 6 in a row with a 1.5% chance of success and also taking into account some possible dispersion. That's probably why people say play what's happening, if it continues, at least you have a chance for a run of W.
     
  9. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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  10. Jimske

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    Yup. But the goal is to play like a machine. No subjectivity. See it and bet it. Just a matter of how much to bet. The WL I posted was just like that EXCEPT when to quit. So it wasn't just run continuous to the end and that makes a difference. I knew I was going to post it. So I took extra care to leave on good points. So that's kind of cheating.
     
  11. soxfan

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    What I find interesting is that it is just as unlikely for a cat to lose a bunch of decision on a bounce. But cats really need to chuck the notion that they gonna win by betting into streak and winning a bunch of wager consecutive, hey hey.
     
  12. Jimske

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    Generally I agree except probably going to lose more IAR than WIAR. But if one is playing any form of Neg Prog there is a need for an up as you win component because the negative prog will hit the wall eventually without having a positive expectation. Betting into a streak can be real tricky because mostly your going to lose that increased bet. But if done properly a few long wins can overcome and increase profitability. I counted WWL and got 63 so bet 1/2 unit after WW loses at least 30 units. Probably more since the strike rate was high. But bumping up a bit up to 5 + should overcome those WWL. Not by a tremendous amount but still should give increased profit. So, IMO, best to have a mix with progressions.
     
  13. Simplebetwins

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    Maybe guys u can change negative progressions in to positive ones? And run IN TO CASINOS pockets, risking just 1 unit!!? :wideyed:
     
  14. soxfan

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    Show me a positive progression what is actually effective, hey hey.
     

  15. Simplebetwins

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    Soxy it's the good OLD best, morty

    1 1

    1,2 1,3 1,4 1,5

    1,2,4 1,2,5 1,2,6 1,3,6 I will stop here, you will probably got the idea how I move forward.


    When u use it and how far you u can use it it's on you.
     
  16. soxfan

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    So, with the 1,2,1 etc yer gonna lose a unit if you win oned then lose the next. With the 1,2,4 etc yer gonna lose one unit if ya winn two then lose the next wager. That ain't no good that' why the positive progression don't work, hey hey.
     
  17. SPIKE

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    Nope, I do it everyday. And of course a progression would make it win even faster because if you have the right bet selection a progression is winning on steroids. But what's the point, casinos hate it when you use progressions and you're a winner. Flat betting always confuses them, it makes it look like you're just really lucky.
     
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  18. Simplebetwins

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    No soxy, my fault, I could just say, I put back every single unit that I make in to action by trying to make as much as i can while growing in to casino morty wallet by risking only 1 unit.

    So, I start war with 1 unit
    Need to win two times in a row to get to 3 units total br, when that's done moving down to second step were I use now one morty, 1,2 if win one of this, next bet 1,3 win, next bet 1,4, win next bet 1,5 as soon I have 7 units BR I go down to 3rd lvl betting 1,2,4. 1,2,5. 1,2,6. 1,3,6. 1,3,7. 1,3,8. 1,3,9. 1,3,10. As son as I reach 15 unit br In this lvl i move in to next 4th lvl betting 1,2,4,8. 1,2,4,9 and so on... as soon as i get 31 units moving to 5th lvl then 6th, 7th, 8th ........

    With hits that comes later it gives u boost to get faster to safer place.

    If lose in one of lvls I just restart and start all over again with 1 unit.
     

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