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Baccarat My System. Win rate 6:4 in long term base on natural trait of Baccarat.

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Trung Nguyen, Feb 29, 2024.

  1. Trung Nguyen

    Trung Nguyen Member

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    Good day everybody,

    It was a great moment for me to know this forum & especially you guys here who I see as the masters in the Baccarat Ocean. You guys are absolutely the Big sharks in here. I learned so much from you guys for all the knowledge you shared.
    As all of you, I love Baccarat. I love the thread of Mr. LungYe: Baccarat is a great small business. & in my opinion, I totally agreed with him.

    Today I'd like to share with you my own way & hope could get great advises from you to sharpen it.
    I joined Baccarat for 4 years, I read many book of this area (such: The ultimate Baccarat Strategy, The Steiger Strategy - Martin J. Silverthorne, Secret of winning Baccarat - Brian D.Kayser ...) & base on my experience, we could see the natural trait of Baccarat is 50 - 50, right?
    So what does it mean 50-50?
    - 50 Players - 50 Bankers
    - 50 Win - 50 Lose
    - 50 is Chop - 50 is Runs (my method base on this one)
    + in 50 is Runs: will 50 Run of 2, & more than 2
    + in Runs more than 2: 50 Run of 3, & more than 3
    ........... so on.

    I applied this trait to my method:
    - Bet selection: Last decision is chop, or Run of 2, or Run of 3. I always bet opposite.
    - Progression: Very basic 3 levels 1 , 2 , 3 units. That I call The 2 Attacks & 1 Defend. Any time I win at level 1 or 2, I will win 1 unit. And win at level 3, I'll break even.
    - MM: + Take profit: 6 units/ session & quit.
    + Stop loss: 12 units/ session & quit.
    Until now it work well to me. As you could refer to my result of Feb so far as attached. 24691062c1ea6cb435fb.jpg
    Some day I get very quick winning, only 7 hands of day 24/2. Some day need grind long such day 19/2 with in 173 hands. Normally it take me from 5 mins - 1.5 hours to finish a session. Quick in - Quick out.
    I should confess have a month actually I loss more than 100 units. It just happened one time, so far. In term of whole year, I take profit but not much.

    Please share me any concern about this approach & hope to hear advise from all of you. Thank you so much & wish you all doing well.
     
  2. asymbacguy

    asymbacguy Active Member

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    You forget the vig...you are not breaking even winning 3s

    as.
     
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  3. Trung Nguyen

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    You mean the commission of Banker? If right, yes I count it for total 1 month. We just have 3 levels of progression & it's not high amount so the commission will not affect much to the system. Actually our TP if from 5 ~ 6 units depend on how far we grind the shoe.
    Tks!
     
  4. Bet2Profit

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    Really appreciate this post. You have a GREAT system (IMHO) which is winning more then it's losing. You make reasonable stop loss and profit goals, and with your approach should be a long term winner!!! Just wanted to say thank you for a common sense approach!
     
  5. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    So you are basically betting opposite for 3 hands? Is that what I’m seeing?

    I would probably change that to begin betting after a run of 2 and bet opposite for three hands. That should probably get you a better strike rate. Unless you are counting on the fact that a chop is 50% of all streaks in the game.
     
  6. Trung Nguyen

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    Thanks for your positive words. Hope it could be suitable your way of battle. Any advise to improve it just let me know.
     
  7. Trung Nguyen

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    Dear sir,
    Thanks for your comment. I know you're one of the great contributor in this forum.
    Yes, I bet opposite for 3 hands. I face a run of 4. I'll restart. I'll quit when I reach TP or SL.
    I my whole period, I had time try to bet from Run of 2. It did not work out for me because it's take long time & if when i face a run of 5, it's terrible to take time to recoup 6 units loss.
    And I found out even we bet from Run of 2. We just ignore the first row of the scoreboard. And delete first scoreboard, it turn out it's still the same pattern like chop. Just difference of time.
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    Hope to hear from you more. Thank you so much!
     
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  8. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    I like your approach. Simple and effective. I will take a look with some of my shoes and see how well it works. Thanks for the contribution!
     
  9. Blacktiger

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    Can you explain to us using a shoe in the format of BPBPBP (and not in this image format)?
     
  10. Trung Nguyen

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    Hi bro,
    WoW, pattern of BPBPBP or vice versa is the most suitable shoe for this system.
    With in 7 hands of chop, we'll take profit right a way.
    I always start my session from the beginning of the shoe & waiting for the first decision, say it's P: then we bet opposite B, then opposite P ...
    P B P B P B P - 7 hands we will win 6 units.
    I really wish it always happen to me (but reality much difference)
    P/S: the shoe of Run of 3 cutting is so good for us.
    I hope it's clear to you, so far.
     
  11. Blacktiger

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    Can you play this shoe?

    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    B
    P
    P
    B
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    P
    B
    B
    P
    P
    P
    P
     
  12. Trung Nguyen

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    Yes sir,
    I think it'll become better under your hand. This system in long term (such over 1 year I've employed) ensure the profit, not harm much to total bankroll. But it does not bring much units. I still try find way to sharpen it to win a litle more.
    If you have any impulse idea, pls let me know. I'll try. Thank you in advance & wish you doing well!
     
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  13. Trung Nguyen

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    Play all 21 hands we will + 1 unit.
    Actually if we could got in this shoe, we could quit at hand #16 with +6 units where the Take Profit goal does it miracle tasks. As I experience, we should not stay long with the shoe. FYI.
     
  14. twibble

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    What happens after -3 if you continue to lose take the -6 and start again quitting at -12?
     
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  15. phuongmmo999

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    Its really not too long to give conclusion !
    I think we should try on bulk hands to know how about it effective
    Thank for topic
     
  16. Trung Nguyen

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    Hi bro,
    Yes, we have 2 stages of losing -6 units. If total loss all shoe reaching to -12, I quit for that day. & shortest stop loss I've met being just 8 hands, 2 run of 4 right away from starting, like: BBBB PPPP.
    Hope it clear to u.
     
  17. Trung Nguyen

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    Hi bro,
    Yes, absolutly not much data to ensure it. I hope some one in this forum who good at IT could help to run some program to test for thousands of shoe to have a clear conclusion.
    In my case, I just play this method for around 500 shoes. Not much.
     
  18. cps10

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    Five of my shoes played. The Stop Win of 6 units and Stop Loss of 12 units are typically pretty good. I played them both ways - with the Stop Win/Loss in place and without. The results are as follows:

    With: -4.95 units: won 6.65 units in Shoe 1, won 6.75 units in Shoe 2, won 6.50 units in Shoe 3, lost 12.6 units in Shoe 4, lost 12.25 units in Shoe 5.

    Without: won 22.3 units in Shoe 1, won 10.55 units in Shoe 2, won 23.45 units in Shoe 3, lost 11 units in Shoe 4 and lost 17.05 units in Shoe 5. The Stop Loss only helped in Shoe 5, for a total profit of 28.25 units won in 5 shoes, or an average of 5.65 units per shoe.

    There is probably a way where you win a lot of units in say Shoe 1, and the second shoe, you are more conservative. I will test more shoes as I get time, but so far, this seems fun. Also, a recovery should be devised, maybe you increase your base to 3 units when you have a loss.
     
  19. phuongmmo999

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    How about with 4-5 cols
    And how do you treat with this:
     

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  20. Zhang Wei

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    Thank you for posting this tough shoe.
    I hit stop loss -12 at hand 41.
     

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