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Baccarat LETSWIN

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Johndepz, Mar 7, 2024.

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  1. Johndepz

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    Like I did in my previous thread, I am here just to share an experience. I have been playing baccarat for a few years. And have been trying to find a way to beat the game for a long time. I've made over $500k and have lost over $500k (not including recent success). So I have been through the worst with this game. From using progressions, to waiting for triggers, card counting. Nothing has ever worked. Why? Why has always been my question......because when you bet player you have less than a total expectancy of 45% win rate and when betting banker, you have less than a total expectancy of 46% win rate. I know my math explanation is lame, but, basically, what I'm trying to say, is that it is a negative expectancy game. Which is not like I'm saying anything new....but I'm just saying.....you are betting into something that has odds against you every single hand. Doesn't matter what count you use, what trigger you use. If you are using any kind of betting pattern? You will lose. Ten players does not mean a banker will come. Ten bankers does not mean a player will come. The win expectancy is totally individual each and every single hand. And it is not effected enough based on what cards came out, or what cards are left, to get any higher percentage than the two I said above. Over infinity? However, banker wins 50% of the time. No one will live that long to see that. And, even if you did, you would STILL be behind, because of the banker commission.

    If you want to beat baccarat? You HAVE to use flat betting. I have created something that is quite remarkable. It's hard to explain, but, the only way I can explain it, is that I am basically, fighting fire with fire. Baccarat is totally random. And, in that randomness, you have less than a 50% chance of hitting banker or player, over the long run. You have a better chance of hitting head or tails 50% of the time over the long run when you flip a coin. This is true because of the way baccarat is designed. Even 50/50, can't be beaten by progressions. HOWEVER.......baccarat uses cards. Cards, since they have a declining element, cannot be 100% random. Being that there are certain rules that create certain outcomes (stands, naturals, and then 6 card draws), a truly random element CAN BEAT a pseudo random element. This may not make sense to most, but, this is what I have created with my partner (my wife) to beat baccarat. We have, over the past 8 months, tested and tried a very effective flat betting method that has been generating us 30-80 units a day with a max draw down of 4-5 units at any given time. We've gone through many periods of winning over 20 hands in a row. I have never seen anything like that. And these win streaks are not on streaks of banker of player or chops, or twos, or threes....no, these are just streaks of winning hands period.

    What is the secret to our success without giving away the system? Our bet selection is random. Our trigger is random. And our wagers are random. And all three of those change randomly. For random reasons. Nothing we do, has anything to do with banker, player, or the game itself. Yes. 100%, true randomness. And we bet every single hand. On paper? We're up over 1000s of units. In real live play? We're up a fortune. I'm not here to give away my system, sell my system,...I'm only here to share an experience to encourage certain things and share advice.

    First, STAY RANDOM. Don't fall prey to patterns, simple triggers, banker/player tracking.

    Second, don't ever use progressions. If you have to use a progression? Your system is a losing system.

    Third, if you have to use "triggers" that make you wait for certain "conditions"? Then your system is a loser. You have to be able to bet on every single hand. This way? Your system will face all hand combinations.

    Fourth, which is the most important one, TEST YOUR METHOD THOROUGHLY. Just because you beat a few hundred shoes that you recorded from your local casino, does not mean your system is a winner. Test your method against a simulator. A real baccarat random (rng) simulator. If your system, cannot stay positive, winning over 1000 units, flat betting, against a simulator? Then it will not work. Please people....this is VERY important advice. Too many times, people are in such a rush to use a system that has won fairly often enough in the casino. Listen to me when I say this......even if your system beats the casino shoes for a whole year....they can still lose. Here's why. Random results, force your "system" to face more combinations, much sooner. It's like, putting the house edge in your face all the time. You can be in the casino, and not see enough hand combinations to really see the randomness of the game and the winning rate of the house edge for a long time. Due to weak shuffles, overlaps/clumps in the cards, ..etc. etc. This never happens with simulations. Simulations are harder to beat than live cards because they pit you up against the long term odds much more sooner than live cards. So please, test your method THOROUGHLY against simulations for a long time. And set a number. If your system can BEAT a random baccarat simulator and put you in the positive 1000 or more units? Flat betting? Then you have beaten baccarat.

    I am willing to answer any questions. I have lost so much money playing baccarat before discovering what I have discovered and I have finally made all of my money back plus TONS more. I want people to win. But, I cannot reveal my system to anyone, for obvious reasons.

    Using my advice, anyone can create their own winning system!


    ANYONE EVER CONTACTED THIS GUY OR KNOW WHO HE IS?
     
  2. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    Is that the letswintogether character?
     
  3. Johndepz

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    i dont know i just saw that post on another forum wondering if anyone knows who he is
     
  4. soxfan

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    Letswintogether is just al-relax in another alias talkin complete, utter bulls-shits and nonsenses, hey hey.
     
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  5. Trung Nguyen

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    This guy is not only beat the casino, but also beat all the rest of players.
     
  6. phuongmmo999

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    I also believe that Baccarat sometimes randomness, and at other times fixed patterns. I have been developing a playing strategy that meets both of these criteria.
    In my opinion, the most important of this game is bankroll management. Next is bet selection. Use randomness when there is no pattern or trend, and stick to certain trends and patterns when they do.
     
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  7. phuongmmo999

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    Some times random and some times have trends and patterns

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  8. Zhang Wei

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    This shoe net +11 units.
     
  9. phuongmmo999

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    Could you tell me the bet selection ?
    I have understood about this strategy
     
  10. Zhang Wei

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    LLWWLWWLWWWWLWWLLWLLLLWWWWLLLWWLWWWWL
     
  11. phuongmmo999

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    this is result, but could you show me what is the strategy are you using to give out +11 unit net?
    Pls clarify to me
     
  12. Zhang Wei

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    My bet selection is right there in the results. My MM is modified d'alembert 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4.
     
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    Lets say you Lose 1 1 but win 2. Do you reset because you are E or continue to the second 2.
     
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    A question for you Johndepz,
    In your secret system you have random bet selection, random trigger and random wagers. What's the point of the random trigger if you play every hand as you say?
     

  15. Trung Nguyen

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    Hi bro,

    Your progression just what I'm intending to learn. It's really same the way Youtuber Mister Rafael often using.
    He use the total series as his Stop loss but his TP only 3 units. It seem not much safe cuz I see it take time to recoup when we hit the SL. Could you share us your SL & TP target with this MM?

    And the shoe above is 47 hands & you made 37 bets. Could we know where is your enter point so we can understand your BS well?
    Thank you in advance!
     
  16. Johndepz

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    its no my system is a guy from another forum been trying to figure it out for years
     
  17. Zhang Wei

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    Neither. I bet the second 1 after that.
     
  18. Zhang Wei

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    TP +5 units
    SL lose the second 4
    I waited 10 hands, then start betting every hand.
     
  19. Trung Nguyen

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    Hi Bro,

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    Here is the shoe will be played by your BS & MM
    - Played 37 hands
    + win 21 hands ~ 56.76%
    + lose 16 hands
    So excited that this rate even good with flat betting when we can +5u compare to your MM +11u.

    Could you make clarify in some point:
    - Points 1 - 4 - 7 - 8: You start the shoe from hand #11 by the bet on B to break the chop of 3 & lost
    Point 4 you did not break the chop of 3 instead you followed chop by bet P & lost, but point 7 you break the chop of 3 & win, and point 8 you followed chop of 3 & break chop of 4 - all win.
    => It's difficult to know when will you break the chop?

    - Point 3: I see you almost following the streak but this point you break the run of 4 & win. Amazing!!! Any signal here, bro?

    - Point 2 - 5 - 6 -9: I see some time you cut from run of 2, sometime you follow. will it be depend on situation of the shoe, and you make decision?

    Hope to hear from you soon to could clearly understanding your BS!
    Thank you so much, bro!
     
  20. phuongmmo999

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    Why do you think all baccarat ever hand is randomness? I agree with you if you bet 1 hand at any time. It maybe right.
    But some times, it makes trends and patterns
    If you test with flatting bet, i think we will be lose cuz commissions
    Have you ever tested with a bulk shoes??
     

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