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Roulette but I dont live close to a real casino....silly arguement

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by mr j, Jun 15, 2016.

  1. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    "I play on-line RNG because I dont live close enough to a B&M casino".

    Kens solution >> tough s**t, then dont play. You have to be a nutty bird to trust RNG, regardless of real play or testing. I agree, it would suck to NOT play roulette (my favorite game) but the RISK is not worth it. Its my opinion and I'm right as usual.

    As far as playing on-line at a LIVE casino.....DublinBet & CCasino are great BUT.....

    you may not be cheated in terms of WHERE the ball lands but you'll have other POSSIBLE issues with, payouts, losing your connection at "odd" times etc. So thats really not cheating per say but they'll make life a bit tougher for you. Sorry guys, its B&M or no roulette at all.

    Ken
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

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    I am very much in line with Mr J. For me it is only roulette at B& M casinos.
     
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  3. albalaha

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    There are safer online casinos than landbased ones. If you are not aware of one, I can tell you about 5 such casinos where u can win $1000 a day and they do not mind paying without any query ever.
     
  4. Sandra453

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    I'm also don't trust online casinos with roulette and prefer B&M ones. But just for the record, Albalaha, which 5 online casinos you can recommend?
     
  5. albalaha

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    1. Paddypower

    no withdrawal limits and no question ever asked

    2. Betvoyager: No trouble upto a withdrawal of Euro 1000 a day

    3. Skyvegas: For UK and a few countries, fastest and hassle free withdrawals of any sum

    4. Ladbrokes

    5.smartlivecasino

    Try any for daily withdrawal of $1000. None going to ever bother you.
     
  6. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    .....and they are RNG based, correct?

    Ken
     
  7. albalaha

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    Everyone has live dealer options too except betvoyager. Betvoyager introduced live dealers too but it did not last long.

    US guys can go for 5dimes casino for live dealer games.
     

  8. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Gambling online is a sucker's bet.

    It seems as though most of the posters on these forums are kids that have never set foot in a real casino and are only seeking to play online.
     
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  9. mightymike

    mightymike Active Member Founding Member

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    ok, i'll bite. what's wrong with playing online at home in my underwear with the tv in the background and a beer in my hand while using my foot massager?
     
  10. IDPA

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    Gotta agree.

    Sitting at the office desk (at home) with a coffee and a keyboard is a very comfortable way to play baccarat online with the LIVE dealers.

    I've been doing this for almost six years (online live play) now and although it is a bit clinical, a win is a win.

    Having the space to chart, no chain smoking fellow players and the same CNN program in the background makes it about as legitimate as you can get.

    Yes, I still play at the local B&M when I'm near it or have an outing planned, but being able to drop in, take a look at the shoe, play 10 or 20 hands and then go about the rest of the day makes the online LIVE play a viable alternative to the B&M casino.

    idpa
     
  11. albalaha

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    IT seems you have no experience of having fun with online prettiest dealers that you won't find anywhere in a real casino. Playing online is the coolest way to play at your own pace and none to ask you what the hell are you doing. No need to carry cash, drive along and get home drunk and plundered. Those who are not allowed to play online curse it most.
    Where ignorance is a bliss, it is folly to be wise.
     
  12. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    when people would question if poker sites were on the "up and up"...the answer would be,."why would they need to cheat you...it is a cash cow already where they take their cut in the rake and never lose. Then there was a scandal where insiders of the website could play and see the cards of others.
    With casino table games....the line is "why would the casino need to cheat...they have the vig in their favor".
    The answer from me is......THERE IS ALWAYS MORE MONEY TO BE MADE....THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH MONEY.

    I can open up my own casino with betting on a coin flip. I will give your 3-1. Just send me the money and I will flip a coin, and if you win, I will give you 3 dollars for every dollar bet. And you ask, "how can I trust you"....and my answer is......YOU CANT

    So as long as you go into it knowing that there is a chance you are being fucked. As long as you go into it, and know there are computer programmers in this world that can do amazing things that you never thought of in order to increase company wealth......then have a ball.

    as long as you go in...eyes wide open....then have a good time.

    Its not for me...but I dont even bet online sports betting during the week....I wait to go to A B&M on weekends.

    I dont even trust sports books....if I have a problem with thenm....what am I goingto do?////report them to the attorney generla??? The legal system in the UShas no juristictin on the foreign sportsbooks....and I am guessing the same for inline casinos as well.
     
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    Ignorance of how a casino earns leads to all vague and silly assumptions. There are lots of excuses from losers for losing in casinos than accepting the truth. They feel casino cheats to make them lose while a casino need not. Put any strategy to long run test, the reality comes out itself. Casino need not do efforts to win from you, you will yourself put yourself at risk before a casino. House edge and concept of gambler's ruin should be known to anybody who thinks of playing casino games seriously.
    Many come to say, oh online casino is fake and manipulated and they won't let you win. Really?? Will you win for sure in a landbased casino? Playing landbased casino daily is almost impossible for any person unless he lives next to a casino while it is easily doable via a laptop, tab or even smartphone anywhere if you chose to play online.
     
  14. LarryS

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    Yeah yeah yeah, I have hear the "casinos dont need to cheat" line alot. Except that brick and morter casinos have been caught cheating. And cheating has been found at poker sites. So why not the online casinos.

    I know this......when you dont see a real wheel spin, when you dont see real dice being thrown, when you dont see real cards dealt on blackjack...you have to take the word of the business that there is no cheating going on. I am not willing to put my money down on that assumption.
    I am not willing to assume that the casinos has the attitude "we make enough money".

    that is rather naive.
    People said that about poker sites until we find that the insiders can play agasint people and see the opponents cards.

    Can the casino flip a switch and go off the rng, and go on a program that more favors the casino? Its possible. They are in full control...and like religion..you just have to believe.
     

  15. Sandra453

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    ok, online casinos may cheat when you are playing on some or the other megadrive roulette (software program). But how can they cheat when you play online live roulette with a live dealer?
     
  16. mr j

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    Re-read my first post above. I half agree with you but there are OTHER issues not counting cheating, AS IN.....you bet huge on the 17 and the ball "accidentally" (cough) pops out of the 17. There is more than one definition of cheating.

    Ken
     
  17. IDPA

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    What happens if the ball "accidentally" pops INTO the 17? Is it still cheating?

    id
     
  18. mr j

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    No. Anything else I can teach you today?

    Ken
     
  19. mightymike

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    but wouldn't cheating actually backfire in the longterm? i mean, once word spreads that a online casino is likely cheating, gamblers would avoid it like the plague (i know i would), and then the online casino actually loses business. it's a risk that only has a shortterm payoff, and it's a risk that seems completely unnecessary since they already have the house edge to guarantee their profit. i'm not saying no online casinos cheat, i would just be blown away if the big ones did. a lot of them are regulated and i'm no mathematician, but being software, it wouldn't be hard for someone to run a probability program to track the spins at an online casino to test whether their rng's are off and that would seal their fate. it just seems like such a big and unnecessary risk with little payoff considering their business model already guarantees them profits. i'm not buying it...
     
  20. petespin

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    iam ready to move away from home to be close in a casino , generally i never trust online games , there are many ways to make u lose ,RNG? its just a joke ,who still beleive on this? only roulette wheels produce random results ..and not always
     
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