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Baccarat Is there any Flatting Bet

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by phuongmmo999, Jan 7, 2024.

  1. Ezmark

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    Lot of good advice on this thread.... I suggest staying on one side and bet the entire shoe and maybe you get lucky... and then people will double their bet the second shoe if they lost first shoe.
     
  2. Zhang Wei

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    Please share your 67% win rate BS.
     
  3. joe croupier

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  4. Ezmark

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    Flat bet only one side the total shoe. If you are ahead at the end of the shoe, remain the same bet for the second shoe, if you are behind at the end of the first shoe. increase your bet for the total second shoe and continue betting one side.
     
  5. Sputnik

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    Is an old post - but I will add some advice - the gambling journey makes you grow in person and learn from mistakes, i have made many, but now I can tell you that I have an EDGE and positive expectations, but not with casino games.

    The good thing about making mistakes if you learn from them and grow with experience, it will lead to success or at least some degree of improvement.

    You need a large portion of criticism when browsing gambling forums because all the suggestions you got on this topic are garbage and based upon pure gamblers fallacy with no solid or valid foundation - and I can and they can not back up their claims.
    It makes no difference if they want to help when there is no quality.

    1) You want to look at math and probability-based strategies, none of them beat the game but will outperform any Hokuspokus kitchen-made strategies. Where 99% of all strategies you can read about are kitchen-made and 1% are math and probability-based. This will save you much time and effort in your search.

    2) You want to see the method pass or get close to some kind of benchmark or proven test procedure, in this case with Baccarat I suggest Van Keelen Test (google it). Any positive return beyond 50% with 1000 placed bets is a good sign of not putting the strategy in the garbage.
    And all this is flat-betting, as with progression you get the illusion of success that is just that, illusion.
    You will find less than 0,5% of them in this forum board.

    3) Stop testing various methods and just concentrate on points 1 and 2 and you will have a hard and difficult time finding any value topics here or on the internet. Just to give you a hint there is a reason why is so hard to find obvious conclusions as there exists no positive expectation playing Baccarat no matter what approach you explore.
    What you can do is explore the mechanism of the pendulum effect and variance with the overall bell curve as a benchmark and ride out or trend out some positive returns, it might sound easy, but is not and it requires a deep and clever understanding of the 50/50 distribution.

    4) Forget all about and just ignore topics or members who claim success with progressions, all garbage, if not some success flat betting and have an recovery plan adapting a progression for a smooth recovery, that has been proven to work and confirmed with several simulations and I can prove this point overcome 3+ STDV. That is the most effective combo you will find. 100% pure flat betting will never see the daylight in public forums, just so you know and I have been close and did prove my point in public.
    So when you see claims or empty words about having a successful flat betting strategy without showing, charts with placed bets where you can see each individual bet made and on the specific selection, with a minimum of 1000 placed bets. Chart that shows the overall performance with a minimum of 1000 placed bets. And the full description of the method in detail with an explanation of the math values and probability behind the playing model.
    0,5% of the topics include that information in this Baccarat Section.

    5) So when you do a follow selection in the forum settings you can erase all and start over with none or maybe 1 or 2 if lucky.
    And I assume that is the ratio you will have on all gambling forums.

    Cheers
     
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  6. Mars

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    Table selection and selection Bank/ Player is 100% of the game. If you are in the middle of an extremely difficult shoe/ section of a shoe sizing is only going to limit the damage.
     
  7. mansi19896

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    if you really win in sports then how many units average you been won in month, how long after how many bets with the hollow
     

  8. Lousy Gambler

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    I wanted to bet a parlay of Boston ATS and under 210.5 for 5K but didn't pull the trigger.

    Why is that all the ones I pass from making the bet wins?

    My theory behind that is it's the toughest bets to make are the usual winners.

    Easiest bets to make are mostly losers.

    I cannot wait until football starts, but meanwhile I will have to finish my programming on baccarat.
     
  9. Sputnik

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    I am not sure what you are referring to, but two Set & Forget with over 400 placed each and with 5 and 7 ROI
    Trading methods, three where one makes between 6 to 8 ROI based upon one decay of placed trades.
    The other two are proven, but I just finished solving the puzzle with the Comback Ranking Formula - some algorithms or formulas for getting value with your selections are not shared by others so you have to backtrack and test and try to find sets that perform with similarity and give similar values, then as time pass by fine-tune and tailor them to be even more exact. This method was made by another professional who traded this core method for one full year of +35 units. And I using $50 stakes.

    Cheers
     
  10. Sputnik

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    Why would you like to see a 67% strike ratio - is less than 1000 placed bets - because he can not show charts with placed bets and show selection process with 67% strike ratio for 1000 placed bets - how do I know - well there is no positive expectation playing casino games - we all know that - so maybe in the short term and with some luck and variance you might get 67% strike ratio - how do I know - well using math and probability calculations and common casino knowledge and with overall semi-professional experience.

    Or let me put it like this - he can not make 100+ units with 1000 placed bets with even money.
    On either the Banker or Player side.

    Is just empty words and empty claims as he can not prove his point - so if he not providing evidence he should be treated as a lier and fall into the same category as scam artists.

    Cheers
     
  11. mansi19896

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    i checked all games in top league season and average there was 1 unit after every 12 bets games. can you confirm and check you have similar results
     
  12. saintpreaks

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    I have been learning and testing various methods since finding this forum. Despite continuous losses, I still want to keep trying. I have been reading and practicing the advice from many people repeatedly. Could I also learn your method? I am very dedicated to this. I don't expect to achieve huge successes. I just want to believe that I can gain some knowledge and make even a small profit.
     
  13. Mars

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    If you reside in Vietnam is it possible to travel to Cambodia and play in person?
     
  14. Ezmark

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    I sat on the same table with the Tran organization several times and they had a sure way of winning.
     

  15. Mars

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    That is good. Make sure to always follow them.
     
  16. Ezmark

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    Good advice Mars, I was not smart enough at that time.
     
  17. Johndepz

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    I’ll save you a lot of time I tried for three years with every system you can imagine it all comes down to 5050 in the end
     
  18. saintpreaks

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    Someone is making money, but part of that money is probably what I’ve lost. It’s sad. There’s no holy grail in baccarat, so why don’t people share their methods easily? Are they afraid their strategies will stop working? Is it my fault for not understanding or improving, even if they share? Or is baccarat just impossible to beat? It’s difficult.
     
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  19. Mars

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    There are several very good selections discussed here in recent times. Any practice shows where they do very well and where they run into trouble. The only thing that can improve over that is to have effective table selection and override with Macau Road trends, and using good progressions. That's the game. That's it. There is no secret set of levels beyond that.
     
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  20. Mars

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    Even the '388$ a day at least (HACK FOR BACCARAT' discussed on reduht and online works pretty well a lot of the time.
     

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