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Roulette Law of the third analysis

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Chrono, Jun 19, 2024.

  1. baccarou

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    Nothing should be out of bounds. It's good to use imagination to try and solve problems and one idea can lead to another. Admittedly in this game, I have found a lot of them lead to a dead end but the point is to keep trying (even after 20 years) because A) it's fun and B) you only need to find something once which could make it all worthwhile and it is worthwhile because once you have it, you can't lose it!
     
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  2. Chrono

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    I found this quote to be quite interesting.
    Some more interesting quotes. And some side analysis to go along with it.

    Did some more analysis on gaps(spans as its written here) between repeats:

    Analysis of 6480 cycles (cycle length: 37):

    Average span of unique numbers: 2.95
    Median span of unique numbers: 2
    Longest span of unique numbers: 23
    Frequency of longest span: 1 times (0.00%)
    Shortest span of unique numbers: 1
    Total number of spans: 51809
    Mode span of unique numbers: 1
    Percentage of unique numbers: 63.72%
    Frequency of span 12: 342 times (0.66%)
    Frequency of span 18: 22 times (0.04%)
    Most common spans (length: frequency):
    Span of 1: 20730 times (40.01%)
    Span of 2: 10939 times (21.11%)
    Span of 3: 6372 times (12.30%)
    Span of 4: 3908 times (7.54%)
    Span of 5: 2570 times (4.96%)

    Spans of 1 and 2 seem targettable (60% frequency rate), along with the repeater/unhit on spin 38. Potential to build something from that I'm thinking.

    Baccarou I'll have a look at your stuff when I have some more time later on!
     
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  3. baccarou

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    No problem Chrono and thanks! There are more ideas than time unfortunately but it's all fascinating stuff.

    By the way, it's good to see you are reading Twoup's posts because he was one clever cookie and it's a shame he doesn't post anymore on any of the forums.
     
  4. Chrono

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    The first 5 spins tend to produce the most repeaters. And somewhere in my datasets there's a cycle with a 9x. The percentages represent frequency, so 37.38% of the time whatever number spin 1 was, it ended up becoming a 2x repeater, etc..

    6480 cycles

    2x repeater
    Spin 1 37.38%
    Spin 2 36.19%
    Spin 3 35.69%
    Spin 4 34.150000000000006%
    Spin 5 32.93%

    3x repeater
    Spin 1 17.78%
    Spin 2 17.349999999999998%
    Spin 3 15.97%
    Spin 4 15.83%
    Spin 5 13.63%

    4x repeater
    Spin 1 5.59%
    Spin 2 5.42%
    Spin 3 4.9799999999999995%
    Spin 4 4.14%
    Spin 5 4.1000000000000005%

    5x repeater
    Spin 1 1.1900000000000002%
    Spin 2 1.08%
    Spin 3 1.03%
    Spin 5 1.02%
    Spin 4 0.86%

    6x repeater
    Spin 2 0.19%
    Spin 3 0.16999999999999998%
    Spin 5 0.16999999999999998%
    Spin 4 0.15%
    Spin 1 0.13999999999999999%

    7x repeater
    Spin 5 0.03%
    Spin 1 0.03%
    Spin 2 0.02%
    Spin 7 0.02%
    Spin 11 0.02%

    8x repeater
    Spin 1 0.05%

    9x repeater
    Spin 1 0.02%

    Not the biggest revelation - the more time a pocket has to repeat the more likely (or greater chance) it is to repeat I suppose.

    newplot.png newplot (1).png newplot (2).png

    Going to start working on creating expectations for various bets and also working on what Nimo said about tracking 3 equal payout locations over time.
     
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  5. atrox23

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    Chrono i think as someone said its like a snake eating its on tail, if y start you go without stop for as long you like!!

    Cycle Analysis: {'Unhit Numbers': 12, 'Unique Numbers': 18, 'Repeat Numbers': 7, 'Extra Appearances': 12}
    Cycle Analysis: {'Unhit Numbers': 13, 'Unique Numbers': 16, 'Repeat Numbers': 8, 'Extra Appearances': 13}
    Cycle Analysis: {'Unhit Numbers': 12, 'Unique Numbers': 17, 'Repeat Numbers': 8, 'Extra Appearances': 12}
    Cycle Analysis: {'Unhit Numbers': 13, 'Unique Numbers': 16, 'Repeat Numbers': 8, 'Extra Appearances': 13}
    Cycle Analysis: {'Unhit Numbers': 13, 'Unique Numbers': 16, 'Repeat Numbers': 8, 'Extra Appearances': 13}
    Cycle Analysis: {'Unhit Numbers': 13, 'Unique Numbers': 15, 'Repeat Numbers': 9, 'Extra Appearances': 13}
    Cycle Analysis: {'Unhit Numbers': 12, 'Unique Numbers': 16, 'Repeat Numbers': 9, 'Extra Appearances': 12} . . .
     
  6. Chrono

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    Is that from a rolling 37 cycle?
     
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    @Chrono see my contacts & email .. I'll define in the reply -- a proposition.
     

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    I believe 6th-sense talked about pairing numbers together as well. I had the thought to pair numbers together by a numerical difference of 11 or 12. But I haven't put much thought into it yet.

    When you're doing a second stream, are you doing it just one spin after? And comparing those two as you're going along? Like main interval and sub intervals.

    Similar to this pdf:
    rouletteforum cc/downloads/files/the_law_of_the_third
    dot pdf

    I've read it a couple times but it seems to be full of a lot of fluff and I can't really visualize how I'd track multiple streams yet.

    100% It's a fun hobby that's definitely better than sitting on social media scrolling mindless brain rot with a huge potential upside. Like you said, nothing should be out of bounds. You could bet red every time a good looking woman walks by.. bet only the cold numbers from a different table, etc.. Why not look into it?

    I will say I've seen a few people mention how the key to turbos horserace is something super simple, like Nimo did earlier in this thread, and Turbo did in his advantage of repeaters thread.

    It's gotta be one of those things where once you realise it, you say 'That's it?'. Then you have to STOP and not go any further because you'll end up confusing yourself again. Most likely what's needed is to just work up to the stopping point and develop everything until that point.
     
  9. Chrono

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    I don't see your email in your profile or anywhere connected to your account
     
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    What is extra appearances?
     
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    The unhit and Repeats are the same !!
     
  13. Chrono

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    Yeah, so every spin one unique or repeat is falling off the 37 cycle, and one unique is becoming a repeater then.
     
  14. Chrono

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    Beginning phases of testing where the wins land. Seeing what's above expectation, below expectation, at expectation.

    I'm tracking just the first 3 streets, and using a simple counter to track the wins for each one. I included the code for anyone that wants to find an online python interpreter and test for themselves but doesn't really know how to code.

    Results
    1 cycle
    1st street: 1,
    2nd street: 4,
    3rd street: 2

    2 cycles
    1st street: 4,
    2nd street: 7,
    3rd street: 7

    3 cycles
    1st street: 7,
    2nd street: 13,
    3rd street: 7

    Interesting.
     

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    Using the same numbers as above. Changed over to the next 3 streets. So far streets 2 and 6 are the most profitable.

    Will there be 2 profitable streets per EC? 1 per dozen?

    1 cycle
    [10, 11, 12] wins: 3
    [13, 14, 15] wins: 0
    [16, 17, 18] wins: 5

    2 cycles
    [10, 11, 12] wins: 5
    [13, 14, 15] wins: 3
    [16, 17, 18] wins: 7

    3 cycles
    [10, 11, 12] wins: 7
    [13, 14, 15] wins: 6
    [16, 17, 18] wins: 12
     
  16. thereddiamanthe

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    Strange .. but OK.
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    More interesting quotes I'm saving here.
     
  19. atrox23

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    How about this Chrono !

    we only distinguish between hit and unhit.

    1. A number of part of hit when it first belonged to unhit; and the wheel (or pnrg) spit this number out:
    2. A number is part of unhit when it first belonged to hit, and a repeat occurs on that number:

    e.g. dozen (just to illustrate)
    unhit 1,2,3 hit: none roulette: 1
    unhit 2,3 hit: 1 roulette: 2
    unhit ,3 hit: 1,2 roulette: 2
    unhit 2,3 hit: 1
     
  20. Chrono

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    I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you mean.

    So we don't worry about the 'repeater' label - no problem.

    When dozen 1 hits, it moves from unhit to hit
    Dozen 2 hits, it moves from unhit to hit
    Dozen 2 hits again it moves from hit to unhit?
    Dozen 1 hits, it moves from hit to unhit? (I'm guessing on this one as you didn't specify)
     

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