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Baccarat Build Math & Probability Based Playing Modells For EC

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Sputnik, Jun 18, 2024.

  1. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The following is a gambling question!

    Let's assume you apply Sputnik's March Methodology
    Where singles are singles and series of two is series of two, but series of three and higher are only treated as a series of three.
    Then you get a 1 in 3 ratio.

    Continue

    So if we look at the bias starting from a series of three, two things can happen, bias or a triplet.
    There are 9 combinations for that group when it unfolds and 1 losing triplet if we apply and certain betting algorithm to catch the bias.

    Illustration

    Code:
    31332                    
    333312                              
    321                
    311113131113132                
    3112                    
    3221                    
    321                
    312                
    3111112                
    312                
    33113311112           
    3221                
    321                
    31311312            
    3312                
    31112                
    331312               
    321                
    3321                
    333112                
    311132                
    3332               
    312                
    33112                
    
    The Question

    We have the statement that it does not matter if we use or do not use triggers because the whole universe of random bits with unfold in the same way taking short samples of random sequences and they will have the same results as taking sequences on a rolling basis.
    Because when we put the short hand-picked sequences and put them together they will create the same whole random universe as we would get betting on a rolling basis.

    The only difference is mental control management during play.

    So that would mean that if 12/13 alternating dozen with the probability of 1 in 3 streaks once during one million simulations.
    Would bet the same thing as getting 4/5 hand-picked triplets when using Hit & Run that would give us around 12/13 in a row alternating in exact same order.

    Is that right or is there a loop hole in my assumptions?

    Jimske tested one variant but that was a repeating bias sequence and not a triplet.
    That repeated several times in a row using the principal.

    Cheers
     
  2. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    To me, the losing sequence is three consecutive singles. All others get wins from the series.

    111 <- losing sequence

    Winning sequences:

    112
    113
    12
    13
    2
    3

    There’s many sequences over the course of 2s and 3s that would win but if the 2 or 3 comes out immediately, then you win.
     
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  3. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Yes I will list them all

    111
    112
    113
    121
    131
    122
    123
    132
    133

    and the same with those who start with 2 and 3 :)

    Cheers
     
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  4. saintpreaks

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    I'm Korean and I'm not familiar with this. Can you tell me how to use your Excel for baccarat betting??
     
  5. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have been making some reflection
    Following theory and hypotes

    Playing models

    Option one

    Singles has value 1
    Series of two value 0
    Series of three value 1
    Series of four value 2
    Series of five value 3
    And so it continues...

    Option two

    Seriers of two value 1
    Series of three value 0
    Series of four value 1
    Series of five value 2
    Series of six value 3
    And so it continues...

    Option three

    Series of three value 1
    Series of four value 0
    Series of five value 1
    Series of six value 2
    Series of seven value 3
    And so it continues....

    Now find a window with singles, series of two and series of three that is overrepresented.
    You more overrepresented window as selection criteria will give you higher pressure to succed.

    For illustration, minimum two singles, minimum two series of two, minimum two series of three

    Here comes the question if you have two and bet up to five that will be three attempts or nine attempts
    Do you aim for the full five in a row or four winning bets in a row
    Or just quit after +1 at any point during the betting process
    Where you use three attempts for single and three or the full nine
    Or split them into three attacking segment each for singles, then series of two and series of three

    Slowly reflection and try and error will preveal with succes

    Cheers
     
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  6. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    My assumption

    1 bet for and tie or +1 and quit or take a full loss

    I think that is the best option

    This is how the window look like where you aim for minimum, medium or large imblance

    Card Pic 1.png

    And here is the chart short sample for the whole correction

    Chart Pic 1.png

    Here is the sample for an tie or +1 or full loss

    Chart Pic 2.png
     
  7. saintpreaks

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    Is there anything to watch out for when implementing this play? Also, is there a way to avoid a 6-game losing streak?
    I usually leave after winning about 4 times with this method and move to another table. However, very occasionally I encounter a 6-game losing streak, which makes it very challenging for me as I'm progressing with the Super Martingale
     

  8. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No No No

    You need to test and see how it performs and not use MARTY
    When I write open in public forum is not complete solutions I say you need to test different windows and maybe READ MDB from ELLIS to understand the concept as this one is an HYBRID

    In Oscar Grind Topic you can read other corrections comes in small, medium and large chunks and you need to measuring and find out the sweet spot - why would i do all this work for you and other - i expect others to do there home work and not using MARTY

    Have a nice day and be careful with your money.

    Cheers
     
  9. saintpreaks

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    Thank you for your response. I've lost too much without knowing anything. I want to study and try to proceed now, but it's too difficult for me as I approach it without knowing English and mathematics. I am using your hybrid system, but from now on, I won't use Marty. I'll study hard on my own, so please give me advice on the system. I bet short, but I've encountered several 6-loss streaks recently, and it's been very tough. Please, I beg you.
     
  10. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Yes, that is the point of using the skip/streak document that I have posted that shows how to find the sweet spot or the optimal window.
    I will post the document so you can categorize sequence length and see how common or rare and what values you get.

    Update soon - just pause your play - will be good for mentality and I will try to give you some tools to do some work to find better selections and understand and see how random bits works with deeper understanding.

    Cheers
     
  11. saintpreaks

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    This method is very good. However, when progressing through this sequence, if it eventually fails downward, continuous losing streaks can occur. If the listed codes fail to go downward and proceed horizontally instead, the code will end, so we choose to go downward. Is there any way to improve this method? Your advice is urgently needed.
     
  12. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I don't understand - can you show placed bets and not make assumptions - because there are many different ways to tackle the distribution, and readers have no clue how or what you bet.

    Cheers
     
  13. saintpreaks

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    For example, if "ppp bbb" comes out, I place a bet according to the code written above. If I bet on banker after "ppp bbb," but the results are "p b p b p b p," I keep losing. Although I could bet on player after a triple loss, I really like your code and applied it, but I ended up losing. I don't have the previous shoe history right now. Is there any way to improve this? The 6-game losing streak is always a problem for me.
     
  14. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You mix things into I don't know what - I am interested in the 111 or 123 formations with the code if that is what you referencing.
    For example, 111 and 111 would be interesting as you would have an expectation of at least three series and not another 111 and 111.
    That would be 3+ STDV

    Question and observations how many 1000 samples with or without fictive win produce what, that I want to know.
    Another example is 111 - 111 - 111 - and then the same as above, different pressure and same expectation.

    And develop an NOR March - for example only 3+ series and bet for series or against two singles.
    8 versus 1.
    Combine the other two clusters with similar odds and connect them in a loop with betting on a rolling basis.

    Among many other things ...

    So the RRR BBB sequence I have no clue what you do or what you want to achieve and one shoe is nothing, sorry.
    I talk about running 60.000+ placed bets for observation before coding strategies.

    I feel I can not help you as I feel we are on different levels, sorry.

    Cheers
     

  15. saintpreaks

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    I am not very proficient in math or English, but I am eager to improve my Baccarat play through the theories discussed on this forum. I am committed to learning and would appreciate any guidance on where to begin. Thank you.
     
  16. saintpreaks

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    code 33112 right??

    이 코드는 31111111이 나타나면 실패하는 게 맞나요? 왜 그 사이에 2를 생성하나요? 개선이 불가능한가요? 당신의 코드가 마음에 들어요."
     

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  18. saintpreaks

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    Can you explain this method in PB? It seems like a good method, but I still don't understand it. I'm getting help from ChatGPT. But it's difficult. Please help. I think you are the kindest person in this forum
     
  19. cps10

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    Basically what I look for is a single and then bet against the next decision being a single.

    Let’s say you have the following sequence:

    PB

    You have a single in P so you want to bet that the next decision will create a series or streak. So you bet on B. Now suppose Player comes up again for PBP. You will want to bet Player to form a series. If B comes up again, to form PBPB then you wait for a series and then another single to start betting again. It’s very effective because of an imbalance of singles that will eventually correct itself.
     
  20. Mars

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    Please keep up with these selection discussions as they are very good. IMO one way or another players will converge on good progressions, but selection is way more important. One can always buck up against a shoe with flat betting and compare selection head to head.
     
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