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Roulette Estratégias de Roleta a Longo Prazo - Será que funcionam?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Man Alpha, Aug 28, 2024.

  1. Man Alpha

    Man Alpha New Member

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    Pessoal,tenho jogado roleta online,eu comecei há alguns dias e estou tentando descobrir se há realmente uma estratégia que funcione a longo prazo. Alguém já conseguiu lucrar consistentemente usando algum sistema específico?
     
  2. Chrono

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    No, I've come to the conclusion that without some sort of physical edge over the roulette wheel you can't win. I tested strategies and money management for the last 6 months with a computer... which probably equates to 2 - 5 years of manual work.

    I've tested with progressions that decrease in profit as they ladder up, increase in profit, stop losses, large bets, timing bets, etc... As far as I've found, there's no algorithm or strategy that can reduce win consistently or even reduce the variance in the slightest.

    All roads point to not betting...

    Roulette is too volatile to be controlled by money management.

    I'm open to being wrong, but I doubt it.

    edit:
    Look at my law of the 3rd analysis thread. Everything appears totally random. There are no opportunities available.
     
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  3. baccarou

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    I will bookmark this thread and come back to it. Currently, I am in the process of recording a few live videos from my B+M and also some online from the Bellagio and MGM Casinos. See what you all think when I am finished and I upload them.

    My belief is that there are winning strategies where volatility is not a major issue as long as you attack the game in a certain way.

    Based on my play / findings, you can't just sit there and bet every spin because it's not going to work. Positive results come in waves and once the wave is over, you have a choice to either wait for the next one or quit.

    My bet is on a single dozen with a 2/1 payout. I can't really say anymore than that just now except that I am serious and not just spouting off or jerking anyone's chain. Really, I shouldn't show it but I will do because some of you deserve to see it.

    Roulette is a hard game to beat and so something that works isn't subtle. It should jump off the page at you. Years ago, I had a conversation with a roulette professional (AP) who explained a concept to me called COR (chance of randomness) and so if you really have something, you can't fool yourself and with the dozens, it doesn't take long to know. If you can keep replicating those results over and over, then you aren't fooling yourself.

    Anyway, that's enough said for now.
     
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  4. Chrono

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    Looking forward to the videos baccarou. If you found something that's working consistently, that's awesome. What kind of testing have you done? Casino #s only or tested against RNG as well?

    There's a guy on youtube that says joe croupiers pattern breaker bet on dozens reduces the house edge to 0. I haven't had the chance to code it to verify / disprove for myself, but that one did stick out as a fun test.
     
  5. Platton

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    Hi Chrono! So have you given up to the Turbo theory? You wrote out very good quotes on his ideas. I thought you would explore this more. Have you read all his threads from the very beginning on this forum? Because I always wanted to write to you about what you lack for research, as I saw it. No, I haven't found it yet. But I thought about uniting.
     
  6. Chrono

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    I haven't given up on anything.. I am always thinking, exploring, looking for an edge.. but to be realistic each and every single test I ran never once changed the house edge or ever resulted in anything other than ruin. It was an inevitable.

    Sometimes quickly, sometimes after 40k spins. I could have posted those charts and talked a big game, but in reality there was no controlling or mitigating the variance.

    I read everything. I'm tired of the riddles and mysteries. There are easier ways to make money than deciphering riddles. Look all over the internet for low risk trading strategies, DRIP, options, real estate investing, small business, etc.. its all there laid out bare more or less.

    Anyone willing to apply themselves can make money with the internet and the knowledge it has without a single riddle. Even the AP guys don't talk in riddles, they either say it or they don't.

    Turbo was definitely smart, and the Geiger counter comparison was very intriguing. I am here and you can still write me about the strategy, but these are my thoughts and experiences on the subject.
     
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  7. thereddiamanthe

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  8. baccarou

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    Hello Chrono, as regards testing / playing, I have played live at my local B+M Casino, tested a handful of notebooks on different tables at Wiesbaden and also just watched some of the online live stuff from real casinos. I have not tested it with any RNG yet.

    Turbo was a well respected and likeable bloke. It"s a shame he never opened up a bit more in public regarding exactly what he did although who's to say he didn't do that privately and so part of my motivation to show this is because I don't want to pop my clogs one day having never showed what I have worked so hard to achieve.

    Roulette is a hard gig as we all know and honestly, I just can"t beat it on straight up numbers and boy I have tried. But anyway, that's the way the cookie crumbles and it lead me down other avenues. I always believed (same as Turbo) and that's an important part of it.

    Cheers
     
  9. baccarou

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    Hello guys,

    So this is going to be my youtube channel where I post the videos of my dozen's strategy (both from B+M Casinos and Online)

    Vaccaro's Roulette + Baccarat Channel - YouTube

    Vaccaro is my username over on Kav's forum. I am calling my strategy 'The Roulette Wave' because what generally happens is that I record a few spins, get a feel for it and then 'ride the wave'. More often than not it will give me a nice run of consecutive wins or a group of wins very close together. Quite often, I can hit at a rate very close to the EC.

    The online stakes will be minimal compared to the B+M stakes (to begin with at least)

    I can also record the data from the online just to show that these are the only bets I am making and not manipulating things. I will try my best, many of you have asked for proof and so I am going to show it and if you still aren't satisfied, well then, there is nothing else I can do.

    The first game comes from the Bellagio and netted an easy 5 units profit with a W/L registry of LL W L WWW. I think there were around 15 spins in total and it can sometimes take half a dozen spins to get going. So if you get bored easy, these videos might not be for you!

    I also notice that when you use a screen recorder, for some reason, it can also affect the quality of picture although it's not too bad. I have a small camera for the B+M and maybe that could give a better quality picture with the online as well.

    cheers
     
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  10. Chrono

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    I had a quick look at the video. I had similar problems with the screen recording, I found using an online screen recorder would record smoothly but drop the actually video resolution down.
     
  11. baccarou

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    Yep, that's what's happening. Still, it's not a big issue and I will try a few short session with my 4k mini cam.

    My aim is to play around 200 bets online which should take a few weeks and then see how close I get it to 50/50 for what is a 2/1 payout.
     
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  12. baccarou

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    Game 2 from the Bellagio.

    The recording seemed to run a bit smoother this time!

    Regards the game, I think the dealer had a plane to catch! :)

    Anyway, pretty much the same number of spins as yesterday's session, but only 6 bets and a bit harder to decipher.

    L W L W L W

    still 50/50 for the 2/1 is nothing to complain about.

    What I like about my strategy having converted it to Roulette from the Baccarat tables is that the dozens will naturally tend to have a bit of domination about them because of the three different choices and more potential for something to be a bit sleepy and so when you are running multiple streams, it can certainly help to spot and ride one of them.
     
  13. baccarou

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    Some of you may think 'he isn't making many bets' but what you can't afford to do is push out bets on hunches. I am looking for specific things to happen and if they don't or I am not sure, I just won't place a bet because I know that somewhere down the line some good opportunities are going to arise which will provide some wins. If I have pushed out a few hunch bets just looking to grab a unit, then I am going to be treading water.
     
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  14. Chrono

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    Video looks great. By the way, what is Kavs forum?

    It would be easier to watch if you added the timestamps in the description of when you place the bets imo.

    Thats a great win ratio for the dozens
     
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  15. baccarou

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    I can do that in future, no problem. Kav's forum is called Roulette life . com

    It was a good forum but now it's pretty much down to a handful of folk arguing for the most part. Still there is plenty of good stuff in the archives.

    I am just ecstatic that I finally managed to be able to convert my ideas to the dozens. I have been trying for the last couple of years and kept banging my head against the wall but eventually some things fell into place. So all the experimentation like what you are attempting with the LOTT isn't a waste of time because it only takes you to find just one thing that can make a difference.
     
  16. Hernan

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    I also research coding with python, saves a lot of time, my only finding is to bet against "records" or "maximums" thou they are not very usual

    if anyone wants me to code, just let me know
     
  17. Attanasi Alfonso

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    I watched your videos, it all seems very interesting.
    The wait to play doesn't matter, the important thing is the result.
     
  18. Ttake1234

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    Hi Baccarou

    I did watch you video and I am intrigued by the results I had in 2 session 6 unit and 3 unit
    Might be because one of the dozen was sleeping for long

    I have couple of questions

    Do you do tracking on sheet or it is just observation of patterns and bet ?

    Did you find any perticular pattern which keeps on repeating?

    Bank and Stop loss you recommend
     

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