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Roulette Figure it out

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Denzie, Jun 5, 2022.

  1. atrox23

    atrox23 Active Member

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    Ok we know the window, I even gave 24 for a window. What do you bet? Do you play with five columns.
     
  2. Ricardo

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    Atrox23, this is what I don't have according to you.
    Do I always win? NO
    Do I win more times than I lose? YEAH
     
  3. Ricardo

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    PLEASE READ, 3 COLUMNS
     
  4. atrox23

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    Nah I was saying about your pdf, i do read. I have analyze everything on that box again it is not stable.. I thought that really there was potential on that. I have those things. . . The session that you will hide from everyone is on the corner waiting..
     
  5. Gigi666

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    Those few messages above is why there is no point to form a private group/chat people have formed so many biases over the years of testing repeaters that without a lead "project manager" it'll be impossible.
    Possibly as few suggested dropping all you've learned and tested before and going one hint at a timr is the way, but... I'm doubtful. Seeing 2, 4, 8... hell 50 profitable sessions is meaningless, done that with few approaches, couple of times I even thought I had it.... nope
     
  6. Gigi666

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    Money mgm is key, no matter what method. I discard anything that requires playing more than 150 spins or needs aggressive progression that is sure to end up in tears sooner than later. Make 3k or lose 3k also didnt make much sense as you'd need 30k to even remotely feel you can start (ok you could go with 10c, still... risky).
     
  7. atrox23

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    Gigi I am not saying that what turbo has given is not a very clever way to see things differently. But I don't know especially for you it seems many others haven't found the way so that is not working.. The data Ricardo shared is nothing special to help through the way I think there other things involved..
     

  8. Gigi666

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    I agree its clever, but I guess we're either too dumb or too clever to make use of it :banghead:;)
     
  9. Gigi666

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    You could post 30 live spin sessions and I guarantee I'll find a way to win on all of them. Will this prove I've a golden goose, no. I think too many of us focus on few good looking charts, but sessions from hell are always around the corner.
     
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  10. atrox23

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    What I have found is that more of them who suppose to have found the way they got some kind of help from the creator or a student of the creator. I don't think we all are so dumb.. But sound great on a forum when you say to others look there, read again etc...
     
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  11. Ricardo

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    Amigo, no te estoy ocultando nada. Te lo estoy contando, pero creo que estás desesperado por conseguir la fórmula mágica. Esa hoja de cálculo es el producto de al menos 8 meses de trabajo diario. Es más, mientras preparaba esas imágenes encontré un error que ya fue corregido.
    Les voy a explicar algo que aprendí, no sirve de nada ver la tabla entera, hay que analizarla a medida que se va llenando. Realmente ahí está su potencial.
    No puedo ofrecerte más porque no tengo más. Por el momento aprendí a no perder, lo cual no es poca cosa.
    ¿Cuántas veces has leído Turbo? Yo todavía lo vuelvo a leer.
    Las estadísticas y comparativas de si es lo mismo que random o turbo y discusiones varias me superan (soy burdo), pero las horas de pruebas y la paciencia y perseverancia equilibran mi falta de conocimientos.
     
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  13. atrox23

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    Ricardo when I say I have tons of those tables like yours I mean it.. Having tones of those do you thing I didn't pass each stage one by one? If like reading that's ok, you read everything again and again but at some point you have put that in practice and have nothing to risk my investment on that at it is not a solution. And I am not desperate pls don't add words that do not hold. I am realistic.. Cmn
     
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  14. Ricardo

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    It is in our hands that the session of hell sinks us. We have averages for entering and exiting.
    We know the minimums and maximums.
    We have to stop in time.
    Check any table from 3X to 12X (for example), all cycles lose or win depending on what you are looking for and how you look for it. Use columns 1, 2 and 3 to find the next number in column 1 of the next level.
     

  15. Gigi666

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    I've all useful averages, when 1st in each level on avg hits, when earliest, latest, average for each lap to fill up 3 top numbers, average "lap length" (so how many spins from 1st number show to 3rd), matches from lap to lap, avg hits for 1st, 2nd etc (for less than 20x, no one will play till then anyway), so what?
    It gives lots of combinations, especially if you add to all of that various progs.
    It just never adds up in long term, I can win 30 sessions avg 80u per session, then lose 6x 300-500u, might still be in some profit but is it worth playing through 3000 spins on live wheel to win 100-300u?
     
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  16. Gigi666

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    Try this:
    - play only around average spin count for each lap, for example 1x to 2x spin 4 to 10, no hit drop all top3 or how many you decide to use, on any win drop rest (you shouldn't expect more than 1 match here), 2x to 3x play from spin 17 till 27 and so on
    - quit on any profit or after 2nd hit/match no matter if in profit or not
    - you can use the boring stake is X where X is the lap you're on
    No, starting from 3x wont make it better, but you can tweak the "strike zones" based on your tests. I know some here prefer 4x - 6x, thats easy to do also without waiting just sit look at last 40 spins in history

    You'll win more sessions than you lose, so... see yourself, no riddles here.
     
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    And here few quick ones played, I used just the stop limit so not playing 1x beyond spin 10, 2x beyond spin 27 , 3x beyond spin 41 etc.

    You can see that most were done before spin 40 and made 500u+
    Let me spoil this one, if you dont get hits until 6x-7x that could and will happen your drawdown will be -500u, so you might see if stopping earlier makes sense or not.

    In those 10 sessions if 41th spin so limit for 3x play, I'd lose 1 session with -115u
     

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  18. atrox23

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    Turbo was going clearly for the match column and playing 1 to 3 nr max. . When there was a tie you play only the first runner, but again the drop down is huge. I am having results like you Gigi but then there is that change and you get that drop down if don't have the bank to support that your done... Also the example on the first page is the same I have done that, I was at 5 numbers and a 21 unique cycle hit without any of my numbers.. Yeah I know stop.
     
  19. atrox23

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    I would like Denzie to jump in for a bit as it seems he got the way what is the bank needed for the following base units so it don't lose and we will figure out then, flat or progression..

    Bank with base units 0.10c
    Bank with base units 0.20c
    .........
    Bank with base units 1
     
  20. Gigi666

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    You shouldn't rely on someone giving you the bank size, that's 100% for you to establish based off tests.

    Sticking with the above play method, I'll show some more data later, but you've a choice for those bad sessions:
    - stop at X loss
    - stop after X spins
    - stop after X lap completes or starts

    If you run 100 sessions you'll get decent idea, of course whether method has an even slight chance, but if it does what stop loss or combination of them to apply. If it's not the "X loss" type you need to calculate max and average amount it'll cost you then multiply it appropriately based on you session win %, and getting longest possible losing streak.

    For example you win 80% of 100 sessions you tested stopping at spin 41, with average loss of 110u. That means your probability of a 5 in a row losing sessions streak is 92% in 10,000 sessions played, longest you would come across assuming you're win % stays at 80%, is 12 (probability 0.003%).
    With that info you should be ok to set your total bank at 24x the average loss in a session so 2640u.
     

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