Baccarat Is beat the casino forum worth it?

Beat the casino forum has information that cannot be found elsewhere.

But they are not creating new concepts every month.

So is it worth paying their monthly subscription fees? You decide.

 

Trust me, at BTC it’s the blind leading the blind. The players that knew what they were doing,, all left years ago. All their systems have a nemesis. And most are mechanical. Follow the shoe (FTS) strategy works but they only know a primitive version of it.

 

Kachatz looks like he knows what he is doing but you are probably right. I wonder where those players are currently. Would love to pick their brains. I might consider going back to BTC if Keith restored all the content that I had paid lifetime access to. Their systems just look like different variations of SAP. That's it. Many of the building blocks of my current approach came from BTC. It's just unfortunate that they don't have anything new AND worthwhile.

 

Yes. The Beat the casino forum is good if you use correctly.

You should ask questing and steer away from strategies that are not mathematical sound.

Strategies are "sound" when they tell you what to do--without knowing the PAST.

On your FIRST play you should know your expectancy.

If you don't know what is meant but "expectancy" and how to calculate it...Yes this the place to learn.

 

After 2 decades of experimenting strategies, I have come to the conclusion that casino games cannot be beaten with mathematics.

This place to learn... You mean here gambling forums or beat the casino forum?

 

"conclusion that casino games cannot be beaten with mathematics" where did you learn that?

It's only math that can allow to win.

Math is the way that casinos win.

In the 90's I was playing "678 Joker Poker" for 4 years. It took me 6 months to figure the return which turned out to be 102% return. Then I played for 3.5 years un-still the casinos took them out. THAT'S ALL MATH.

I could cite you dozen examples.

 

What is the RETURN OF THE GAME THAT YOU ARE PLAYING: ??????

Tell me that first?

 

they are nice guys but not worth joining imo

 

Thanks...

 

np

 

I could give everyone generally advice:

If you are playing a game that's rated at 98% return you lose 2%. Therefor you will lose.

The only way to win, is to play a game the has a return that's above 100% return.

Most games are not a win at all.

With a few games that required perfect strategies the difference is above the 100% line, Black Jack is a good example. If you play BJ with standard strategies you lose 2%. If you count cards you can win between 1 - 3% win. BJ is also dead because the casinos kick-out the winners.

There are other game that can get you a edge, if you play correctly.

Unfortunately, casinos have computers also, and they watch the forums.

The best advice is get good at MATH and do your calculations yourself. And don't share the secret.

That's real secret, don't share your secrets...oh, and get better at math...

 

I couldn't sleep...

 

Sounds like BTC has changed over the years.

I should have done this myself: For any of the games go to the Office the Television Show store and buy some Trapper Keepers or something and organize all the info you start learning from Day 1. I would be miles high ahead of where I am at now if I did that, and this is the case if information on sites change or gets lost.

 

I can tell you that the 5 members who left are doing just fine. I keep in touch with all of them. I was one of them. BTW, Kachatz is a good friend, a great guy and willing to help almost anyone.

 

Trapper Keepers !!! WOW that's a blast from the past.

~FK

P.S. I still have my TK from high-school...is that a problem?

 

I can tell you that the 5 members who left are doing just fine. I keep in touch with all of them. I was one of them. BTW, Kachatz is a good friend, a great guy and willing to help almost anyone.

CT70

Hi CT70, when I was at BTC trying to learn Reading the shoe by Norm Allen but the informations was not available. Kachatz help me with his 4D approach and clarify a lot of things for me. You are the person that he recommend in California that I could seek out for help if needed. I lived in LA and gamble at Commerce Casino. Can you point me in the right direction to where I can learn to RTS. Any advice is appreciate...

ps: I would love to meet up with you for discussion of baccarat if that is ok with you.

 

Hi CT70, when I was at BTC trying to learn Reading the shoe by Norm Allen but the informations was not available. Kachatz help me with his 4D approach and clarify a lot of things for me. You are the person that he recommend in California that I could seek out for help if needed. I lived in LA and gamble at Commerce Casino. Can you point me in the right direction to where I can learn to RTS. Any advice is appreciate...

ps: I would love to meet up with you for discussion of baccarat if that is ok with you.

 

Yes - Blast for sure and still available. I even had a pencil case from Japan. I have been around in circles quite a lot with progressions and still evaluating the best ones I know.

 

Yes math is the way that casinos win.
That's why gamblers can't win with math.
If I follow the best baccarat math strategy, then I would be betting banker all the time.
But how many shoes are banker strong side?

 

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