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Baccarat Is beat the casino forum worth it?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Zhang Wei, Sep 26, 2024.

  1. Johndepz

    Johndepz Member

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    after a player dom shoe bet bank whole shoe?!
     
  2. Zhang Wei

    Zhang Wei Active Member

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    Yes, that's what mathematicians recommend.
     
  3. Johndepz

    Johndepz Member

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    are you being serious?
     
  4. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This is a joke and wake up - all systems are worthless and the same with all AP material you can buy online.
    I have been to both and can tell you the following.

    This is what you get for your money!

    1) Empty house with no value or a system that is a tool but the value or the mechanism or the secret sauce that give you an EDGE you never will buy for the money - everyone keeps that for themself.

    2) All people who say they can win without showing how with step instructions and pdf charts with placed bets for others to confirm - are liers and scammers and you have many in this forum -

    3) With sports is the same - but there are exceptions and no get-rich-quick schema.
    But the beauty of it is that when you have found an EDGE and make regular profits overall during a couple of months.
    Is just a question about the market liquidity and scaling up Unit Size and compounding.

    4) The stock market is for poor people or losers.

    Have a nice day ...
     
  5. BeJustRich

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    casinos is beatable if you have good bankroll and big balls. amen
     
  6. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I will give a modest comparison with my opinion.
    The underline in the text is the message.

    Lay The Favorite - have one person running tip service with horse and lay bets with fibo sequence.
    He busted once during 8 years and is still in profit, so yes you can argue like that.

    One version is for sale as a PDF among other things and similar to Soccer when it comes to selection criteria that I similar to EC.
    The problem is that if you get 365 or 500 selections a year and bust once every 8 - is pretty clear that is no different than any other random distribution - but he uses a clever compounding - for me is still a mystery how he can run a tipping service that delivers on such vague parameters.

    My conclusion from this is that he sample size is too small to bust twice or more after each other during a short time.
    But he has not been exposed so much to the random universe yet, so is not strange he has been successful in many years.

    Cheers
     
  7. Mars

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    The math view recommends Bank and only Bank every single hand.
     

  8. Zhang Wei

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    You can check out Eliot Jacobson YouTube channel Advanced Advantage Play.
    Always banker strategy can easily be found on the internet.

    Sputnik, I agree that all AI prediction software and e-books are useless. I've wasted money on them as well. But BTC does show everything in their forum. Not everything works of course but there are valuable insights there.

    BeJustRich, casino is not beatable if all you have is martingale and Fibonacci.
     
  9. BeJustRich

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    I never say martingale or fibo.
    To bet on Banker nobody needs a strategy. Just bet fu...ng banker :)
    Casino is beatable but you need to have big bankroll + good table limits and time to place a bet.
     
  10. Jimske

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    Back to the subject of the thread. I didn't realize they were still around. I knew Keith and Ellis prior to their endeavor and joined the free group early then was booted pretty quickly after questioning their practices. I know Ellis is no longer there. Keith? I don't know. But I find from another source that they have changed from using specific bet placements to playing a glorified guessing game. At least that's my understanding. Sidebar: Anybody remember Dee and her BPR (Baccarat Pattern Recognition)? I think I have that method somewhere. I digress.

    Apparently what they are doing is playing the history of the shoe. Some call it follow the shoe or FTS. Is it worth it? Yes and No, hahahaha. If you are totally clueless and need some ideas then sure. Somehow you're going to make guesses that past patterns and run lengths will repeat. But anyone can look back and guess repetition so, no, it's not worth it. They're going to highlight MM, discipline and keeping bets flat or tight and so it becomes the same old stuff.

    Full disclosure I don't generally play this way at all. But .. . I haven't been doing much the past few months except vacationing so with access to Evolution RNG I was able to play online small bets. So I've made about 185 units mostly flat. Mostly. When I get in a jam I raise my bet a bit. I just concentrate on the first 3 lines and bet what happened before will happen again. I don't play that many hands in a shoe and I've played a LOT of shoes. I don't keep track. Sometimes I only make 1 or 2 bets a shoe. But I know that sometimes I play 12 shoes in an hour sometimes so is this something I would play live? Probably not. I'm not going to drive to the casino and play 6 shoes to maybe make 6 units or lose 6 units. That kind of thing suits PunkCity but not me. But if I plugged in a progression and could get 15 or 20 bets a shoe then that's something different.

    Cheers
     
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