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Baccarat Baccarats Realities!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Oct 24, 2024.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Well cats, I'm buckin up against some adversities, right now, lookin at -61 unit down-draws from the recent peak. But previous, I capture more than +100 unit so inevitable that yer gonna give some profits back, usually to the fibonacci retracements points. Just gotts grind through it, hey hey.

    -1.5
    +4.4
    +1.4
    -.35
    -3.5
    +3.4
    -4.5
    -1.45
    -1.5
    -7.3
    -.55
    -1.4
    -8.15
    +2.5
    -.45
    -1.45
    +7.35
    -1.45
     
  2. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Uh, you ain't gotta grind 18 shoe, just use a big flats bet wager size and only grind 5-6 shoe per day. Too many cats wanna capture profits but are too lazy to grind, hey hey.
     
  3. Shadymilkman73

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    Thank you for that detailed explanation. You mentioned 123NP, meaning your first 3 bets are full unit increases from 1 to 2 to 3 on losses. In the event you lose the 3rd hand, you wait for a virtual win before applying 20% increase from 3 unit bet until step 20?
     
  4. Shadymilkman73

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    appreciate the advise. I’m still in testing phase and my 70 unit has dwindled down to 30… I have not given up on the approach. I do agree with the bet selection focusing on anti streaks, as they tend to occur more often.
     
  5. cps10

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    You keep going. No virtual bet needed. You don’t want to risk a win coming out because you’re waiting. That’s how I do it anyway. Jim may wait for a virtual win but I don’t think he does.

    So you go 1-2-3. Then start adding 20% on. 3.6 would be your next bet.
     
  6. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    My worst case scenario for draw-downs during real cake wager play has been -77 unit. And, I once got clipped for -83 units during testings, hey hey.
     
  7. Kalyan

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    Hi soxfan
    I love your work mate ... I'm trying to learn dominance betting but I'm failed to understand even I searched in youtube no luck for me . Can you please help me out
     
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  8. Shadymilkman73

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    Or does NP means No Press, and you flat bet hands 1,2,3. Still learning all the acronyms
    appreciate it! The NP threw me off, still learning my acronyms haha. I thought NP stood for No Play.
     
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  9. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Oh by the way full disclosure. I only use the twenty percent when i'm playing on a live table or stadium. With RNG I mostly just flat bet then bump up to recoup if i'm losing. Reason is I don't have to play many hands with the RNG. I can stop any time and start a new shoe. With RNG I'm only playing about five or six hands per shoe. This wouldn't work for me on a table where I'd have to wait for another shoe to start.

    Cheers
     
  10. Shadymilkman73

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    Been playing/testing this progression and been seeing good results. You mentioned you never went past step 11, that's very impressive. I'm assuming you been playing for a long time, perhaps decades without busting. I'm still working on a good BS, generally one of my favorite trigger is 3 consecutive players and I play it to jump to banker.
     
  11. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, old chap, but my style got nothing to do with betting so-called "dominance", hey hey.
     
  12. Kalyan

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    Thanks for response mate .
     
  13. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    @Shadymilkman73 @Kalyan I'm tempted to make fun of you guys but i'm not going to do it. I'll leave that up to Mars. First of all soxfan is not going to help you out. He couldn't if he wanted to which he doesn't. Every once in a while he sends me an email telling me to go f myself which warms my heart. He does not have a mechanical betting strategy that wins more than it loses. Do I have to repeat that? He's gas lighting you. That's why we never see any screenshots of his winnings or checks that he gets from PartyPoker.com. But that doesn't mean his approach to the game is not worth while. Here's what he does.

    He flat bets Banker only. Then he waits for a player decision or decisions
    and bets Bank. Originally what he did was to wait for a P bet B and if lose bet B again. Simple. How do I know that? Because over a small period of time , people posted some shoes and asked him how his results were. He responded and told everyone what his net score was. So I simply reversed engineered those shoes and came up with the same answer that he got. I'll post one of those shoes a little later. But for now , let me say that it's not such an awful strategy at all. But as he well knows it's not a winning strategy without some adjustments which are basically subjective. But there's more bankers than players as everyone knows. And there's 18 singletons in a shoe as everyone knows and approximately nine 2's in a shoe as everyone knows. So right off the bat you might hit fifty one percent strike rate. Well you gotta do it's tweak a little bit to get another point or two and you've got a winning method. I think that's what he does , but he's not saying so. He's still pretending that it's the holy grail. LOL. Let's move on a bit.

    So@Shadymilkman73 That's why I suggested that you try to figure out how he got losing units flat bet banker on the shoe that you posted. Do I have to do everything for you guys? I also asked you to show how you got the losing units on that you shoe. What are you afraid of giving away the holy grail to the whole world? Hahaha.

    So if you play the show that you posted with the method that I suggested you don't come up with what he came up with
    So he either changed his method completely or he simply messing with your head. You decide.

    But one thing is certain. My friend soxfan is not going to give you anything. Because you can't even if you wanted to.

    Still, there's ways to adjust that flat bit banker.Bet only with a little tweaking to get the best of it. But that tweaking is going to require a little bit of guessing or subjectivity and disciplinr and patience.

    Cheers
     
  14. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sorry for the voice to text problems.
     

  15. Mars

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    For his next trick. Jimske and the _hit posters of the baccarat forum club posting club will define 'In the long run' and explain to the class what happens after a hand is played.

    Do you dumb Fers need to see more shoes played? More explanation? More droning on about the same information that has been discussed to infinite detail for decades eveywhere? What is so GDamn Fing complicated? Pay Tie only dumb dumbs. Play free money games. Start paying reparations for the WOT or quit mentioning others. Head hurts after 1 minute of reading the same BS day in and day you quants believe in. You were just on record stating you do not know that flat betting has a different average than progressions. This means don't say anything about anything because you have zero qualification.

    Must be a bunch of _hit leftists taking a break from the redduht so dumb or master trolling. _hit.
     
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  16. soxfan

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    Well, after my recent bout with adversities, the tides turn, and I got back on the ups-ward trend. From the -61 units I went on a run and capture bit more than 100 unit so claw back the downs-draw and hit a new peak point of profitability. Gotta say, I'm really not enjoying playin baccarats. I'd pack it in but the casino is just offerings profit on the silver platter and figure it's my duty/obligation to capture that profit. But I decide that I ain't gonna play as much. So, I'm gonna double my b ase unit bets flat wager size to two blacks chip, so I can cut my playings time in half to 4.5hr/9 shoe per day while still be able to capture average 54ks nets profits per months. I just wish that I could find a reliable cat to bankroll, and let em grinds my style for a cut of the profits.

    Oh well, here are some more recent shoes result, hey hey.
    -4.4
    +1.4
    +2.3
    +6.3
    -1.45
    -.4
    -6.25
    +1.6
    +2.45
    +4.4
    +1.45
    -3.45
    +5.4
    +4.3
    -2.4
    +2.45
    -1.45
    +6.25
     
  17. Shadymilkman73

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    @soxfan what did you get on this shoe? thanks
     
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  19. Shadymilkman73

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    that's what I got as well fathead.
     
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  20. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    I say old chap, I think you've almost got it, hey hey.
     
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