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Roulette Figure it out

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Denzie, Jun 5, 2022.

  1. atrox23

    atrox23 Active Member

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    I agree with that, what i can't understand as i said on a previous post is that dozen from numbers is a lot different and here my focus are numbers , a loss of 2.....disregarding inside bets! Isn't that to small for number interval as they are total different from dozen interval?
     
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  2. atrox23

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    Let me share how i was thinking one way !
    I moved to lines , this was only for str8 bets;
    I had to get 6+ unique numbers on a line so i didn't had a win, this again based on turbo so on each line we will have 1x 2x 3x etc. Now what i did was to bet the new number on that line for six spins and stop, when a new X appears on that line i do the same. This was for all lines as you see in the picture!

    Screen Shot 11-08-2024 at 1.43 PM.png

    So i was going to for a hit 1/6 , to get a match! If that make sense-6th :D
     
  3. Diego br

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    Jogo de uma forma muito diferente de vocês pelo que tô lendo nos comentários, a ideia do jogo é ser aleatório. Porém ela precisa de padrões para que o usuário possa ter sensação de gatilho e assim ter prazer no jogo, como é algo sistemático ela precisa fazer de tudo dentro de um intervalo de 1000 rodadas para manter um equilíbrio, pode reparar que em todos os gráficos após 1000 rodadas haverá um equilíbrio em todas a porcentagem do jogo. Tento isso como base você pode definir o padrão que te dê mais segurança para jogar, aqui no brasil temos sistemas que identificam esses padrões conforme a sua escolha você pode definir os mesmos como você quiser, claro que alguns são bem mentirosos mas existem alguns eficazes. Após aparecer esse que eu defino que pra mim o melhor é de ausência, eu espero a quebra dessa sequência e tenho como base de cálculo as próximas 10 rodadas, com isso já tenho um modo de jogo definido em pra faço os cálculos para manter probabilidades maiores de acerto em 5 rodadas, sabendo que a mesa precisa manter o equilíbrio do jogo, pos essa é sua essência equilíbrio!! Para mais detalhes só perguntar, mas pra frente posso mostrar meus resultados.
     
  4. atrox23

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    Thank you for your input Diego, the questions can be many from what you have wrighten ...
    Patterns; There are millions of them , why yours gives an edge?
    Balance; What kind off?
     
  5. atrox23

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    I started flat bet and all this is to see the extreme situations and how to handle since there can't be shared more help in this world and the cause will be casinos to close so i have to go in it!
    My target for first year is 100 unit/ day or 100 unit/ 2 days..

    First graph was my first big gap to recover but small drow downs , second graph is same session on my next big gap but here i did apply positive progression.. And the drow down started when i was around 300 units from flat bet, so i think if you go down to the hole is hard to recover flat , there some more rules we have to apply!!!

    1st
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    2nd
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  6. atrox23

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    I am testing all day ,Positive progression and reset on a new high , this is my last post also here as there is no point . I guess we have to develop our self furthermore with trial and trial and improve from failed attempts as TRD said.. Good luck to all.

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  7. publa

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    Could you write a bit more on how you play?
     

  8. Diego br

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    Não é que o meu seja mais ou menos vantajoso, você precisa definir um padrão de sua preferência e validar ele seja ele qual for, vários padrões existem justamente pra passar ao usuário a sensação de jogatina, se ninguém achar que é possível ganhar o jogo quebra porque ninguém vai jogar. Porém você precisa entender que a dinâmica do jogo tende pro equilíbrio das probabilidades, nunca no longo prazo as probabilidades vão ser muito desiguais. Exemplo: vermelho e preto, você pode reparar que no longo prazo em qualquer roleta de qualquer servidor as porcentagem vão estar bem próximas entre 51% e 52% no maximo pra cor de maior vantagem, isso levando em conta 1000 rodadas. Isso acontece com tudo não só nas cores colunas e dúzia tbm entre 34% e 35% pra de maior vantagem as outras vão estar bem próximas no máximo 1% de diferença de uma pra outra.

    Quando você define um padrão de entrada e só joga nesse padrão suas chances de erro são minimizadas, veja bem. Se você sabe que o jogo tente pro equilíbrio quando está muito presente um fator na mesa você tem que presumi que nesse momento a mesa está manipulando e jogando contra a sua natureza contra a probabilidade, exemplo, não é natural da mesa repetir 15, 20 vezes a mesma cor ou ímpar ou dúzia 1 e 2 e negar a dúzia 3, apesar de ser comum não é da natureza do jogo, esse momento é de influência psicológica onde a mesa usa o emocional do usuário contra ele. Minha forma de jogar é justamente esperando essa quebra da ausência, quando a mesa quebra esse padrão de ausência ela por tendência tem que buscar o equilíbrio das probabilidades. Eu consegui desenvolver uma forma de jogar que busca esse equilíbrio tendo como base as próximas 10 rodadas após a quebra dessa ausência. E acredite não tem erro!!
     
  9. Diego br

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    Olá, só vou passar minha opinião e ponto de vista, dessa forma de jogar em progressão repetindo sempre a mesma aposta sem um gatilho ou um momento específico de entrada eu não consigo ver lucro real, no longo prazo a roleta sempre sai na vantagem ou perdendo o mínimo, o algoritmo não foi criado pra ter falhas lógicas de cálculos e se isso acontecer a longo prazo ele vai se ajustar. A essência da roleta é o equilíbrio você nunca vai ter lucro considerável operando progressivamente sem um gatilho ou momento certo de entrada e lógico um momento pra sair.
     
  10. Diego br

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    Era viável que tivéssemos um outro lugar pra poder compartilhar melhor as ideias e saber como cada um pode se ajudar melhor, talvez com as experiências de vocês consiga adaptar minha estratégia e obter melhores ganhos. Poderíamos criar um grupo no telegram, o que acham?
     
  11. Naughty but nice

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    Wow.
    What is it, your quitting
     
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  12. atrox23

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    With those results does that seems to you I quit? I said I will not post anymore about it.
     
  13. Naughty but nice

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    Oh your another passion still lurking.

    Perhaps Atrox and many others should pop over to RF forum and study Winkles GUT theory.
    What does winkle show?
    At the start it's 37 non-hit. What do they want too do? get to zero left.
    So, the start is non-hit and then its 50/50 and next it is repeats.
    Look at the 60 spins not the millions that KA2 does.
    60 spins more times out of 10 finish 30/30.
    That means from the starting 37 there are 30 hit once. Of these 30, there are 30 repeats.
    You might have had a number repeat 4 or 5 times.
    To help. 60 spins. 1st 40 in blocks of 10 spins. 9-7-5-3.
    9 of the starting 37 usually hit. Even TG says average is 9 for a repeat.
    9 non-hit then 7 non-hit then 5 non-hit and 3 non-hit. you see the non-hit are shrinking. Means repeats are happening.
    If you reverse the 9-7-5-3 to 1-3-5-7, that's repeats average over 40 spins, pretty simple; or not to some.
     
  14. atrox23

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    Lurking?
    NBN buddy why are you so pathetic. Our difference is that we are still trying to figure out the best way and you have figured out (as you claim). You still around copy pasting same things, Clue's are just that Clue's as Bayes said what is the point of you just posting what you post and not the way?
     

  15. Naughty but nice

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    64 spins on MPR.
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    Wanted to pass 30'000
    64 spins.
    The question is what number or numbers was I using.
    Cough MR J 4 numbers?
     
  16. Naughty but nice

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    Sergio gone, where was you last post? 466. But you still posting
     
  17. atrox23

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    I will say it again to you that i will not post anymore ABOUT THIS not post in general , now you put up or shut up. Showing me your shity table and asking what you did you play that's totally useless. Look at my graphs and guess what did i play? If you can't say how you play that's a thing , but they have shared everything i am not expecting nothing from you as you are just looking as everyone ..
    I am ok with three numbers, someone else could be with four that's not the case! The whole point is to understand how everything is combined where you will win always, always i mean at the end to be in profit and not every spin, long term.
     
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  18. atrox23

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    This is done before and also there no one will share as they waiting from others to share, so if the group is thinking like that independently then will not work and it didn't work to any of them.
     
  19. Diego br

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    Entendo, bom eu não tenho problema nenhum de mostra como jogo não vejo problema nisso, não sou nenhum gênio que descobri a forma de ficar milionário só vou compartilhar a forma que jogo e com certeza alguém deve fazer da mesma forma, em bilhões de apostadores no mundo não é possível que só eu faça assim kkk
     
  20. atrox23

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    Diego we are trying to find a guarantee way of playing professionally and not maybe i win today , there are billions as you say but i dont know if 1% of them do have a consistent win rate. Who has a problem sharing how they play? but if those can't share having a way winning i can't either. I see some of them like this wall NBN that pretend to have it, what difference will make that to casinos lol..!!
     

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