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Roulette A Fascinating Pattern You Might Have Overlooked

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Calculatedrisktakers, Feb 20, 2025.

  1. Calculatedrisktakers

    Calculatedrisktakers Member

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    Hey everyone,

    I am new to this forum but I am not new to gambling. I have been playing roulette and baccarat for over 16 years now and I recently found something interesting that I will like to share with everyone. Now first and foremost, I am not saying this is a winning strategy or it's an holy grail. But I found it interesting.

    Please keep an open mind—this isn't something you can simply program into RX software and test over 1,000 spins to determine its effectiveness.

    After playing for 16 years, I stumbled upon some really interesting concept that I hadn’t seen much about elsewhere. There is an anomaly that occurs once every 46 spin cycles. Now of course this can happen back to back but overall, from my time playing this way I learned that on average it only happens once or twice every hour on a live dealer.


    I spent some time breaking things down in a way that’s easy to follow and, hopefully, makes it a bit more digestible.

    Onto the strategy:

    We want to wait for a rare combination of numbers that are complete opposite to each other to land.
    Once this occurs, we wait for a unique pairing and once it occurs, we bet on that 1 thing these
    set of numbers have in common. In my experience, you will win within the 1st-4th bets. The only time
    it doesn't win immediately is because the anomaly occurs again back to back or an streak of the opposite of the outside bet starts for ins (which technically is an anomaly itself).

    The Setup:

    #18 <----- Red, Low, Even ........ There is only one thing in Common in these results, it's EVEN
    #22 <----- Black, High, Even,
    #5 <----- Red, Low, Odd


    So our next bet would be EVEN:

    Result: #26 lands and we win!

    This strategy isn't sexy and it's time consuming but I have gotten good results trying. I have attached some PDF files to demonstrate the strategy. Looking forward to some insights from other experienced players.

    Happy learning!
     

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  2. Boukit

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    So when we have 2 of the same EC in a row and then a change....we bet the penultimate to happen.


    examples:

    RRB bet R
    OOE bet O
    LLH bet L

    Right?
     
  3. RouletteTools

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    Interesting thxs, I play outside bets looking for symmetrical patterns then bet against them, all symmetrical patterns have to end eventually.
     
  4. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Can you afford eventually
     
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  5. Boukit

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    You do not know WHEN....so it has no value
     
  6. RouletteTools

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    You are wrong

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  7. RouletteTools

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    Eventually isn't too far away
     

  8. Calculatedrisktakers

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    Thank you for your response mate, the answer is no because your over looking the key component.

    Okay so the set up is a combination of 2 numbers being completely opposite to each other.

    For example this the set up:

    Red, Low, Even then a Black, High, Odd.

    If the next number that lands is Red, Low, Odd

    Then we will place a bet on Odd but it must be in this particular order.

    The reason being is because if you simplified to only 1 category then it's not an anomaly because Even, Odd, Odd occurs all the time.


    These are unique pairings of numbers that doesn't happen very often, now in order to make a bet the third result must only have 1 thing in common with the 2nd result.

    I know it might be somewhat complicated, I have a video explaining it but unfortunately, I can post any links.
     
  9. Calculatedrisktakers

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    Appreciate you for being open minded, I look forward to seeing if you tried it out and see if it worked. Even if you only win 1 unit, I did my part.
     
  10. RouletteTools

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    I've been doing it for the past 72 yrs now, sorry I haven't taken a screen shot of all the wins
     
  11. Boukit

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    Are you using progression?
     
  12. Calculatedrisktakers

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    I wasn't trying to offend you buddy. Just showing you appreciation for being open minded.
     
  13. RouletteTools

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    Which ever one suits you and your bankroll best
     
  14. RouletteTools

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    Never thought you was bro

    like I say I’ve been doing this for years now, just haven’t taken screenshots of all the wins sorry.
     

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    I wanted to test the effectiveness of this pattern by programming it with real archive numbers.
    The source is WestSpiel Casino , Year 2007, Table 7.
    That's 350 days or 93449 spins.

    In all, there were 3893 attempts.

    total spins to win = total occurrences
    -----------------------------------------
    1 = 1897
    2 = 1025
    3 = 483
    4 = 219
    5 = 125
    6 = 67
    7 = 36
    8 = 13
    9 = 10
    10 = 8
    11 = 5
    12 = 3
    13 = 1
    15 = 1

    This looks like a standard distribution. I don't see any advantages.




    For example, the first day starts like this:

    (2007-january-01)

    1. (6) BLE
    2. (27) RHO
    3. (28) BHE ------ bet High
    4. (1) RLO ---------------------------- bet Odd
    5. (33) BHO ------ win at 2nd ------- win at 1st
    6. (35) BHO
    7. (32) RHE
    8. (12) RLE
    9. (7) RLO
    10. (30) RHE
    11. (25) RHO
    12. (2) BLE
    13. (34) RHE ------ bet Even
    14. (35) BHO
    15. (2) BLE ---------win at 2nd
    16. (13) BLO
    17. (17) BLO
    18. (0) GGG
    19. (10) BLE
    20. (35) BHO
    21. (29) BHO
    22. (15) BLO
    23. (20) BHE
    24. (11) BLO
    25. (16) RLE
    26. (18) RLE
    27. (12) RLE
    28. (23) RHO
    29. (26) BHE
    30. (9) RLO
    31. (1) RLO
    32. (23) RHO
    33. (15) BLO
    34. (2) BLE
    35. (22) BHE
    36. (0) GGG
    37. (28) BHE
    38. (24) BHE
    39. (24) BHE
    40. (9) RLO
    41. (33) BHO -------- bet Odd
    42. (28) BHE
    43. (15) BLO -------- win at 2nd
    44. (34) RHE
    45. (32) RHE
    46. (6) BLE
    47. (2) BLE
    48. (36) RHE
    49. (4) BLE
    50. (17) BLO
    51. (22) BHE
    52. (14) RLE
    53. (23) RHO
    54. (16) RLE
    55. (12) RLE
    56. (18) RLE
    57. (18) RLE
    58. (10) BLE
    59. (14) RLE
    60. (34) RHE
    61. (34) RHE
    62. (30) RHE
    63. (27) RHO
    64. (29) BHO
    65. (3) RLO
    66. (17) BLO
    67. (20) BHE
    68. (30) RHE
    69. (25) RHO
    70. (34) RHE
    71. (31) BHO
    72. (3) RLO
    73. (20) BHE
    74. (10) BLE
    75. (13) BLO
    76. (6) BLE
    77. (34) RHE
    78. (1) RLO
    79. (24) BHE
    80. (27) RHO ------- bet High
    81. (8) BLE
    82. (16) RLE
    83. (6) BLE
    84. (15) BLO
    85. (21) RHO -------- win at 5th
    86. (17) BLO
    87. (31) BHO
    88. (11) BLO
    89. (21) RHO
    90. (3) RLO
     
  16. Calculatedrisktakers

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    As stated, you usually win within the first 4 spins. The only time it doesn't is when the anomaly occurs back to back or another streak of the opposite occurs (which is an anomaly in itself)
     
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    This is always true of any bet selection in a near 50:50 game.

    If it was a true 50:50 game (it's not)...

    1st spin: 50% wins
    2nd spin: 25% wins
    3rd spin: 12.5% wins
    4th spin: 6.25% wins

    So 93.75% of your wins would be within 4 spins. It is always the outlier beyond 4 spins that wipes you out when using a progression.
     
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  18. thereddiamanthe

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    @Calculatedrisktakers here's image of a system-performance
    look at the violet columns, till (-5) about ≈90% of the games are resolved in positive
    then take notice of the increase in units for each extra single-%
    how much extra is required to secure extra how much more bankroll is required +99% efficiency comparably .. that's where it only begins relevant to roulette
    & mind, there's no negative progression here, this is played flat!
    iMarkup_20250309_174738.jpg
     
  19. atrox23

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    Is this a short term?

    For you -5 = 90% sounds like you are implying a 10% risk of ruin (ROR), to boost efficiency from 90% to 99%, the goal is to reduce ROR from 10% to 1%. This requires a larger bankroll to absorb variance.

    90% ->95%: 2x bankroll
    95% ->99%: 4x bankroll

    To achieve 99% efficiency, the bankroll might need to be 5–10x larger than the stop-loss threshold (e.g., 25–50 units for a -5 stop-loss), depending on bet frequency and size
     
  20. thereddiamanthe

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    Relatively, yes. 322-games only. About 5% of thise finish on the first-spin.
    Or 5x-sessios to about +50 units.
    The exposition:game (-units:spins, U:L) parameter for the games within each session are in the bottom-right squares, only the games worse than (-5) are registered.

    You may have to open the image in a new-tab for better clarity.

    Yeah, 99% ror would be only the begining of the proper-work, ideally you want to get very close to 100% ... 99.75% (1 in 400 games) if using multiple reserve-bankrolls.

    & extending that play further you might realize that the bankroll-increase-rate to secure each additional 0.1% after reaching 99&% (& each 0.01% after reaching 99.9% as well) .. is pretty much the same as 90-99%, just continuing further ..

    So if it took 4x the (-5) amount or (-20) to reach 99%, you are looking at 8x or (-40) for 99.5% .. & somewhere about 60-80u for the 99.75%.

    Without using neg.prog. ofc!
     
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