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Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

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  1. AxelWolf

    AxelWolf Well-Known Member

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    This Probably needs it's own thread.

    I asked many of them questions"how did Bovada not know that the Betsoft software was rigged?" including, how does the relationship between the software provider Bet soft and BV work. BetSoft refused to pay a player a big hit claiming 2 different bogus reasons (can't remember what casino). No one really responded.

    We will never know the extent of the rigging because only one or two Progressives were tracked it's impossible for us to know about top jackpots on non progressives. If it was only two games there's no way they would take out everything (its a very large percentage of their most popular games, I would guess 75%+ including a hore racing game and scratchers) They would shut off the games fix the problem and refund people a percentage of their losses. If someone figured out Megabucks or WOF was rigged not to hit the casinos wouldn't take out every IGT machine in the casino unless they highly suspected, knew or suddenly realized all machines had a problem once they went back to the books and knew or noticed they were making 5% more.


    I can only conclude someone knew that it goes way deeper than just a few rigged progressives. keeping the games might allow access for someone to easily figure it all out. The smart thing would be to disassociate yourself from the company entirely knowing that.

    I guess BV could say they took out all games pending an investigation into each one individually.

    Hopefully BV will be at least refunding players a percentage of their money who played the known rigged games.

    I always and said the games were not honest, however one could use that to their advantage.

    Personally I did very well on BV (including the games mentioned) very low investment, using the NP, 2 weekly + holiday bonuses, promotions. BV was highly profitable if done right never had a problem getting paid.
     
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  2. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    Are you running that scam, Axel?
     
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  3. Blackhole

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    When it comes to online gaming, the only thing that was always guaranteed is your deposit will be approved and deducted from your account.

    I know, I know, people made millions AP’ing online gaming. I never meet one but of course read about it being done endlessly at gambling forums. The only ones I know with confirmed facts making millions online were the people involved with the scandals. (Poker sites, etc.)

    If you’re an online gambler today in the unregulated market your just a full blown gambling fool.
     
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  4. redietz

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    Just to correct what Blackhole said for novices, if you're an online casino or poker player, you always risk issues.

    If, however, you are betting sports, for the most part -- aside from federales seizing owners and such when their planes land in the US, you're on relatively solid footing.

    Off shore sports line moves, in fact, guide Las Vegas line moves. The off shores have more volume and, frankly, more expertise behind them. So LV follows the leader(s). Unfortunate -- especially compared to 30 years ago (I was there) -- but true.
     
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  5. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Pathetic bunch of two-faced hypocritical w*****s.

    Wov'ers whing and moan over here that due to the nature of the site, no actual gambling discussion takes place.

    Some AP [sic] body starts a thread on WoV asking how long can they play BJ for before they are bumped. The infamous AP [sic] Wiz Noting pushes that girl off his chest and chimes in there are better avenues. Another AP [sic] then asks "what avenues", Wiz Noting does not respond.

    A member posts how to exploit the easy dragon in the game of Baccarat, and the infamous snitching control-freak AP [sic] responds with "Why tell anyone?".

    So if these renowned 'AP's' [sic] decline to answer specifics on their home turf, why on God's earth would they contemplate ever posting anything of value, relevant over here? They simply wouldn't.

    One of the villains, even had the audacity to mouth off about Sally, calling her posts condescending. From both an outsider's and insider's prospective; we have one poster, who simply airs positivity, provides figures when responding in her replies, which are more often than not humorous, encourages people to have fun, talks about dancing. While the other whinges about sock-puppery and encourages mod's to be more vigilant about the usage of VPN's and generally posts sweet FA, nothing, fuck-all.

    The epitome of hypocrisy.

    It makes me sick, "absolutely sick" :D
     
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  6. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    One miserable sob with more posts in the suspension discussion threads than anywhere else, who most probably takes his lack of control out on his partner daily.

    Sick, "absolutely sick in the guts" :D
     
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  7. AxelWolf

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    Played more online casinos than I can count(I do have a detailed log book with all transactions) I have only not got paid a small amount a few times. Found a few insanity gaffed/rigged casinos (IE casino bar).Bet Victor no pay for under $100 I didn't follow up because it wasn't worth the time and effort and I don't remember the name of the other place but it was a small amount as well. I took the time to make sure the casino I was dealing with had a reasonable reputation. Even then, usually I had my GF start off with a smaller deposit and cash out. If all went well I bumped it up. I didn't spend as much time as others did online because there were B&M casino opportunities and other stuff as well.
     
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  8. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Says the long term professional 'AP'er' who turns down free cruise¿ Who thinks (cos he stated as much) that $1000 (£761) is not a small amount of money. A lousy 'bag' (1k) is not a small amount of money, if ya a professional nickle and dime player. But for a long standing professional gambler, a 'bag' would be considered chump change.

    Damn I wouldn't be turning down any free cruise (even if I dream't the offer) if $1k is big money. Some on this board are so full of shit, give him a few for decades and we'll have another EvenBob on our hands, judging by his negative bitchy posts on WoV.

    Laughing my ass off reading about such a diligent self-proclaimed AP stool pigeon leaving a ticket in a pokie machine.

    I felt "sick, absolutely sick in the guts" that he recovered the monies :D:D
     
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  9. AxelWolf

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    I have also let thousands in slot tickets expire. I'll sell them to you cheap.
     
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  10. Junket King

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    Understandable cos you're a cheap controlling bastard, right.
     
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  11. Junket King

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    This begging for a Vegas G2E convention ticket that the manBoy is doing, turns out he was a moderator for game designers the previous year, but not invited back this year. Hilarious, another blow to the ego, probably too much leering at the show-girls.
     
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    There is no need for you to respond to any negative posts about any form of gambling. We already know you always win, so how could you possibly have anything negative to say. I mean you win so much and so often you can't even keep track of thousands of dollars of slot tickets that ended up expiring. I recently heard that you and WON went partners on a Lear jet so you can get to your plays quicker.
     

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  13. nate

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    "Hopefully BV will be at least refunding players a percentage of their money who played the known rigged games."
    And who's responsibility would it be locating such players and would this company actually pay the costs of doing so?
     
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    They should have logs and they could send out an email notifying everyone including a public announcement. They obviously won't find everyone, but after a reasonable amount of time they should give out the unclaimed amount somehow.

    I highly doubt anything like this will happen they will continue to push blame on Betsoft claiming damages themselves. I think someone could/should start a class action lawsuit naming betsoft any "reputable" casinos and whomever over sees them or whatever IE kahnawake gaming commission. I'm not sure if betsoft software is/was in any foreign regulated casino.

    Would love to see some financial records on the slot games provided.
     
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  15. Blackhole

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    My one week ban expired for speaking the truth about WON. I sign in but nothing works and I can't contact anyone. Do you think they just want to rid me over there?

    I think one of the moderators visits here. Maybe he could look into it for me?
     
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  16. freddy

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    It's a common tactic over there to be slow in reinstating those who are not butt kissers. It turns them on and they don't want it to end. It's biased, it's petty, it's childish and it's blatantly obvious. It's them being dicks as taught to them by their DICKtator.

    They're big on begging over there. They would love you to beg to be let back as many do. Don't give them the satisfaction. They will get to you eventually. They may even say something stupid like they "owe" you some time off your next suspension. The incompetent mod who suspended you hasn't even logged on since the 24th. Talk about shirking one's duties.

    The other mods will either ignore it or make excuses...I'm not the one that issued the suspension... blah blah blah. That's nonsense. Any mod can rectify this...if they choose to.
     
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  17. redietz

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    I hope you're not serious about the "Kahnawake Commission" or whatever it is. Those are the guys caught selling firearms and dealing pharmaceuticals, right? Up in Canada?

    That's like being overseen by The Sons of Anarchy.

    Anybody attempting legal action against these dudes -- well, good luck and post an over/under on your lifespan.
     
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    All fixed. Post away =)
     
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  19. Mickey Crimm

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    Google "Bovada Adjusts Progressive Jackpots After Pulling Betsoft" to read how Bovada is rectifying the situation. On games where the meter resets to $1000 they are raising it to $5000 and including another 1% meter movement. There are six games involved, Bulletproof Babes, Sevens and Stripes, Caesar's Empire, Aztec Treasure, Cleopatra's Gold, Dirty Martini. They started doing this on July 11th and say they will continue to do it until they have given an extra $750,000 away. I don't know enough about their games to say the extra money will put the games in positive territory.
     
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  20. Mickey Crimm

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    If I wanted to I could do an empirical study of the progressive games in question. But I don't think I want to get involved. Axel should certainly know more about it than me.
     
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