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Roulette Winkel's G.U.T. - 1000 units challenge

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by System Gambler, Sep 24, 2016.

  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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  2. Turner

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    You are at a charity event, sat with friends and drinks are flowing.

    The compare starts bidding for the chance to smash Gordon Ramseys head in with a cricket bat.

    How much would you bid up to?
     
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  3. segfault

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    "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."
     
  4. segfault

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    The "difference" in this case is that roulette is a game which has already been designed to result in a net loss for the player. It's not like inventing something from nothing which no one believed was possible, like the plane. Assuming the conditions of randomness hold the math is iron-clad. It's just silly to think you can "overcome" a game which has a built-in disadvantage for the player. As is often said, you have to "think outside the box".

    "The box" is randomness, statistics, progressions, hot numbers, cold numbers, patterns and all the rest of the tools which make up the system player's arsenal. They can't touch the game itself because they're already accounted for in the game. It's impossible to beat the game, but it's possible to beat the gaming device.
     
  5. System Gambler

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    Oh man, you guys hijacked my thread. So please excuse if I post something on topic.

    Here my next session. So far I'm up 324 units.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFRuLIA2YkI

    Just to clarify. It's real money as you can see in the upper region of the casino window.
    I don't post on rouletteforum cc anymore because the mod deletes my posts. So interested players need to follow me here.
     
  6. Rona

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    Are you Winkel? Where is Winkel? What does he has to say about his own system treated this way?
     
  7. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    He can't defend the system either.

    He can't show any math supporting the system, and can't explain why it should work.
     

  8. Rona

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    So this is not a challenge. It is a fraud?
     
  9. System Gambler

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    Where is the fraudulent part of trying to gain profit by playing a system? You are a genius.
    Maybe you are winkel?

    Many players play that system. Because of the "gamblers intelligence" part in it I want to show my way of playing it.
     
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  10. System Gambler

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    Gamblers Intelligence is a term used in the G.U.T. bet method description and relates to knowing the system, bet methods, possible outcomes and deviations of the results so well that the player can discriminate good and bad spots to bet and thus avoid losses in bad spot.
     
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    Had a crazy fast trot in my 5th session, did not play at optimum but still a winner.

    Youtube: 352LSiUjyJ8
     
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  12. System Gambler

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    By the way: Every GUT player is invited to participate in the challenge. Post a video of your games or just the spins and where you did bet on which crossing. I'm always interested in others ways of play.
     
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    Had my first losing session. Was a tough fight but I had to take the loss. Was not my day, but better will come.

    I'm not allowed to post the video links, so please check my channel.
     
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  14. System Gambler

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    7th session.
    Again a difficult one. Still the fear of loss in my bones. But finally won it.
     

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    One way to determine if a system has any merit is to ask what outcome or outcomes would demonstrate that the system fails. If the system promoter has no answer for that, it's more about belief than reality.
     
  16. TurboGenius

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    It's not about something being "your day" or not. The math doesn't change based on "luck" or good feelings - bad days, good days - math stays the same.
     
  17. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    What most system junkies don't comprehend is the depth of variance, and the statistical insignificance of the test samples that they are running.

    Even a working method has draw downs (variance) of 450 units or more depending on the size of the edge. Yet many people are foolishly testing systems for only 60 to 100 spins at a time.


    It's absurd.
     
  18. TurboGenius

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    Indeed.

    So what if after all of the tests and videos - it returns a profit ! Yayyy.
    It means nothing at all.
    I've ran samples of common systems that went thousands of spins and then lost.
    Which in reality means that the loss can happen from spin #1. But short term tests
    and running small samples seems to give the illusion that something is worth it when it isn't.
     
  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    You know, most systems work, until they don't. ;)

    Leaving a fool to eternally search for "just the right progression" and/or "trigger and exit strategy" to make it all work.

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  20. RouletteGhost

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    what does mean nothing at all mean

    so your saying he can play 50 sessions and show a profit and it means nothing?

    what does that even mean

    what are you trying to say

    it is relative to the individual
     
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