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Roulette Chaotic Order

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteGhost, Sep 30, 2016.

  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    Copied and pasted. Not mine
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    from one mathematician , statistician :


    "The roulette wheel is not random. It is chaotic! Future spins are determined by past spins. Patterns therefore occur. Find them. Exploit them.
    Orderly disorder exists "


    quotes from some scientists

    "the presence of chaos may actually produce ordered structures and patterns ... "

    "Patterns will appear out of the chaos. And this, in its essence, is chaos theory: finding order in the chaos."
     
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  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    They're indirectly referring to biased wheels and visual ballistics.
     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The only defective wheel here is you, Snowball.
     
  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Gizmo,

    The biggest difference between the two of us is that you're still trying to figure out how to win in the long run.

    I'm not. I already know how. ;)
     
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  5. RouletteGhost

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    Both addded to ignore.

    Thanks have a nice day
     
  6. System Gambler

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    That will definitely be my next tattoo!

    Thanks for that post.
    Can you provide the source? Will add the author on my tattoo.
     
  7. RouletteGhost

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    To be honest i have not looked into it

    I copied and paste this from another member

    No matter the source it seems to be a true statement
     

  8. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    You'll probably waste 20 years of your life before you realize that they're likely referring to biased wheels and visual ballistics.

    You both would be wise to learn from the mistakes and research of others that traveled long before you, as you won't live long enough to make all of the discoveries and mistakes yourself. Watching you twaddle in bits of information that you don't comprehend is almost painful.

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  9. RouletteGhost

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    Oh this is beautiful
     

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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    RouletteGhost,

    The picture says it all. ;)
     
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    Just words in text without proof, but you are here typing, which is nice;)
     
  12. RouletteGhost

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    And posting neat pics of which i have blocked and will no longer see
     
  13. TurboGenius

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    I could find a few problems with this quote - even though I tend to agree with it somewhat.
    Random does certainly produce patterns... the smart person will point out though that this is only noticed
    while looking at the past spins once they've happened.
    Lets say that random produces a pattern (for example) - but the pattern is only possible to notice once it's happened.
    So using that idea as a way to "predict" a future pattern could prove to be difficult.
    (Perhaps that can please both sides).
    lol. Perhaps not.
     
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  14. gizmotron

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    If you have not seen the global effect, as I call it, then you have missed the most amazing aspect of patterns and trends. Many people have seen them occur. It's no longer a myth.
     

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    The "global effect?
    ' [​IMG]
     
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    Exactly. This is truly funny. The guy that tracks the wheel is clueless as to the natural occurrences of randomness. It makes it impossible to know the difference when things seem one way and they are actually another. You are a very funny man snowball. You get fooled a lot, don't you?
     
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    Man! You do like to hit each other around here...

    You are the roulette gods in this so small world. People look in you mentors in understanding and beating the game. Be that. Ego dies with us. Knowledge last longer.

    I play roulette for a few months now but... I do care. Not in the money itself but in the mastering of the game.

    I do believe that chaos represents something more than vb and bias. Now I avoid reading more this days about vb and bias just because my own interpretation of things are paying well.

    For me bias is that roulette wheel that shows up the 26 more then the 0 or 3. When it's going to stick in these pockets it seems to choose the 26. Of course the bias can be bigger or smaller so maybe 3 numbers range is too much maybe you just have two... Maybe you have more. All about understanding the cause and effect. Also maybe a 3 range number as the bias on the left side so 26 0 32. Not necessarily in the middle.

    VB also for me is not the caos. It's a technique where you make relations between launch, cross references, aceleration, entrance points, and tilts (i'm not sure how you call those pocket jumps forward and backward) to conclude the final dropping.

    For me, and i make no assumption about being right on this, order in caos is you see all this shit happening and god knows how, you are able to catch somekind of syncronization and a lockstep pattern dispite dealer trowing differently despite your vb calculations and despite everything else.

    All you know is that slight different inittial conditions result in different behaviour but we are still going to find a lot of them that will produce simmilar results.
     

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