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Roulette What if I told you...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. Turner

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    Gizmo's post is totally justified as it is the kind of response, borne out of frustration, that happens when people have to witness an ego flapping around making claims with no proof, producing a topic with absolutely no content or purpose other than leading people in a merry dance.
     
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  2. Armitage Shanks

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    Thats correct. As you go futher down the lines the amount of spins allowed is increased along with the amount bet.
    Turbo do you think you could post one of your graphs with numbers to go with it that was longer - around 300 spins?
     
  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I wasn't going to bother to reply to this nonsense but why not...
    I don't mind wasting my time once in a while if it benefits others.

    You already know - you've read the thread and making stupid comments simply to troll - which is your right to do so.
    If you're waiting for a step-by-step instruction manual then that's not going to happen. As I've said (and pointed out with links) everything is already available on this site to do the same thing that I did. You're efforts to "buy" what I've done weren't acceptable since I sell nothing - and now your just trolling and angry, that's ok with me. Carry on.

    You are wrong on all of your statements but of course you don't see that. Which is fine. If the day ever comes when I have to "prove" the obvious to you, then that's a shame. You are much better suited in finding things that don't work and then selling them or charging others for this useless info. If you spent any time thinking you would have figured it out - but no. Your mindset is only on how to make a profit off of others and always has been.

    I have you on ignore - but in fairness to reply to the trolling I'll add the quote.
    It's fine with me if you try to send people who want to know in the other direction to avoid figuring it out, that's your choice. I even had conversations with you in PM but there's no making you see the obvious and that's certainly not my job to do. You and a few others are set-in-stone that something isn't possible so you aren't open to explore anything else and the answer I suppose will just stay invisible to you. It's called ignorance. If you are mad about that and taking it out on me - that's fine. We all deal with things our own way.

    I've posted in this thread and others how it's done.
    I've contacted the people that I need to in order to validate my work - I have no interest or reason to do that on a internet forum, regardless of how "qualified" some people think that they are to verify my work (laughs).
    If you insist on my work being "backed up" and "proven" then fine - that process is already underway, but it's not going to help you one bit in finding the answer. You will continue on throwing rocks and denying that it's been done (so much easier that way isn't it ?). And you will just be left behind like the fools you show yourselves to be.
    Have a nice day and Happy Holidays ! (to all - even the haters, they'll always be around.)
    You guys remind me of the first part of this video. You have no idea what you're talking about and in the end, we all know what happened. (for the record, I called the "win" from the beginning).
    Feel free to replace the anti-Trump comments with your own anti-TG comments because you are being equally (or more) foolish with your comments.

     
  4. Armitage Shanks

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    Hi Turbo, do you bet over 111/114 spins then reset and start over? if yes does the progression amount change depending if you are up or down at the end of 111/114 spins?
     
  5. Turner

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    Clearly you don't.

    Ok...the trolls..the haters (as you call people who disagree) are evident. But where are the endorsers?. The "thanks for changing my life" crew. I am guessing they are flooding you in PM..right?

    Listen...You are a genius, OK? Self proclaimed. So was Einstein...but not self proclaimed. It was by proof and maths.

    He had the same clues and Maxwell's theories and all the rest same as the other 100 or so physicists of the day but only he got it right.

    So you got it from the clues because you are genius. We won't get it because we are like the other 100 or so physicists....Not genius enough.

    Good job Einstein didn't sit there telling everyone the clues are there but I'm not sharing.
    What would the world of done with his unproven claims and esoteric guessing game?

    Especially when he turns round and calls them all trolls for being pissed off with the ego-fest.

    Laughable really.
     
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  6. TurboGenius

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    A person can stop at any time they are in profit - because it always makes a profit. That could be any range of spins but is always "playable" at the table as far as time is concerned.
    The progression is "set in stone" - but I'm sure others could make their own as well that would work. I tend to be aggressive.
    I also follow the rules I set in place in the other thread - a few being no tracking as past spins are useless and start/exit points are also useless. When something works, it works. You don't need to try to sneak up on it and jump in at a certain time. Math doesn't work that way. Also exiting when "ahead" is just for time constraints when playing. I have a set amount of time that I prefer to spend at the table - for someone else, it might be an hour - others can do 10 I'm sure. It wins regardless so it's up to the player how long they want to play, not the method's rules.
     
  7. TurboGenius

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    mmmmm Clearly I do.
    What happens is - someone who isn't on my ignore list posts in this thread. (as Shanks did)
    I get a notification in my email.
    I grab my phone and the link takes me to the thread.
    I'm not logged in - all content shows. (even those ignored since I'm not logged in)
    I sign in on my computer to reply and then clicked "show ignored content" in order to quote said person to reply.
    (Yes, seems silly to reply to someone you ignore - but like I said - I have some free time today and it doesn't bother me.)

    I don't call people who don't agree trolls. I call people trolls for trolling. There is only one reason a few people (trolls) who post in this thread bother to do so - it has nothing to do with what I said, nothing to do with the topic - it is simply to troll and try to stir up some response (in my case I usually do respond though. shame on me).
    No amount of proof would be enough for a troll since they don't care about figuring anything out, they only want to make posts to derail what's being said. Fair enough, it's no crime.

    Well, sadly there are various types of geniuses in the world past and present. I'm sorry to have to tell you that they all don't share in some "open source" fashion. (laughs). I suppose in a perfect world that would be nice - no one would have to think for themselves, it would all be spelled out in plain steps.
    You could use the Nikola Tesla analogy and make it fit perhaps. While he did share most of his work - some amazing (world changing) things were drawn up and tested but not revealed. Only a few people knew about them and even today no one can figure out how to reproduce his experiments with the same results.
    But I digress - when the topic is about gambling in a casino, the last thing anyone wants is some idiot posting out in the open a step-by-step instruction example of how to win every time... That is nonsense and you know it.
    So I'll continue to do what I do and point people in the right direction, while still sharing other things that can help people.
    For the record - remember that thread on the other forum of the cabin and the "hidden message" ? No one (ok, one person) even thought to look into the file itself and everyone spent their time focused on the image and the contents. I "could" do everything like that - then perhaps 1 person would figure it out. That's not how I work.
    In this forum, I posted a thread with links to every topic I posted here that explains exactly how I got to this point and the answer. But you would prefer to fault me for that instead of working on it. Fair enough - you want it spelled out in simple explanations or else you are ready to call foul. That's your loss and not mine - nor the readers and fellow posters.
    If you want, sort the topics in the roulette section of this forum by view count and start reading. Or continue on - whatever your choice is.
     

  8. Exoter175

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    I don't think you get it, Turbo.

    I'm not making stupid comments, I'm making logical ones. Without knowing where that ball will land, before it lands, there is no possible way to beat the game. Without having any reasonable idea of what section it might land in, before it lands, there is no possible way to beat the game.

    You, Turbo, have done nothing to "prove" anything, short of posting graphs that my little nephew could make for his 5th grade school project. To my knowledge, you haven't really posted a "strategy" because there is, in fact, no strategy.

    You are no pioneer to watching the long term results of a wheel, and finding a way to make a buck off of it, but you pretend like you've got a repetitive, fool proof way to beat any wheel, any time, and you can't have that kind of system, because there isn't one that can be mathematically proven.

    You call my comments stupid, but they are backed by a solid foundation of mathematics, and yours are not.

    You, sir, are the troll, not I.

    I'm probably the only person on this earth that will pay outrageous sums of money for a working "system", because I'm also probably the only guy on the face of this earth with enough money bankrolled, and a team ready, to make any real money on it before the casinos figure it out.
     
  9. TurboGenius

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    Actually no. I don't need to know anything about the ball or the wheel. All I need is the math.

    Any wheel - Any time. Rng or live dealer. The math doesn't change - random doesn't change.
    I understand that it's easier for you to say that it's nonsense. And you understand that I don't need to prove anything to you.
    (And contrary to your belief "because I'm also probably the only guy on the face of this earth with enough money bankrolled, and a team ready, to make any real money on it before the casinos figure it out." ) I'll do fine - by myself - at my own casinos without a team - with my own bankroll.
    Since you won't accept it as possible - you're probably better off just ignoring this thread.
    If you had instead asked questions about things that you don't know or understand - we could have gotten somewhere but now you're just wasting your time and mine.
     
  10. Armitage Shanks

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    Any chance of a longer sequence of numbers with a graph or is this being spoon fed too much?
     
  11. Bombus

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    I wouldn't be too sure about that..

    Maybe I'll start posting some clues :eek:
     
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    Yeah go on mate. You too have posted some interesting stuff in the past!
     
  14. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This comment makes no sense.
    A progression is to overcome the fact that you can't "produce" results in wins higher than the math expected results.
    That's the point of the thread - a progression. not predicting the outcome at better than 1:37 or 1:38.
    You're not paying attention Gizmo.
     
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  15. gizmotron

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    The only thing that could possibly work is that mathematically something must win by 23 steps. I don't even know if this is a recovery system with a positive parlay that finally makes up for other losses. Every variation that I could get from the existing clues failed miserably in testing. I would like to know how this avoids those perfect sequences that kill progressions.
     
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    Why didn't I see this before. I went back and read the thread, and the suggestions, and discovered something that I misunderstood. I did all my testing based on my misunderstanding. I find this thread to most illuminating. Shit does happen. :)
     
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    Now I am. If this works, and it probably does, you've done an exemplary job of sharing it in a way that makes experienced players see it. Thanks.

    There, now you have 100 likes. That was going to happen too.
     
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    No way, I'm not going back and read the thread.
     
  19. TurboGenius

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    Thanks for the like Giz - made it to 100 ! Laughs.
    I'm not sure what that means but I'm told I'm seriously likeable now.
    No one in history has ever said that about me - but it's the forum, and it can't lie can it ? :)
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    You feel you have nothing to prove to me, simply because you can't prove it, Turbo. Its really not complicated at all. You can't prove your magical fairy system works, and therefore you refuse to prove it because you feel you have nothing to prove.

    Its a self defeating stance if you ask me. You're inviting smart, logical players with sound understandings of mathematics to come in here and call you on your claims, only for you to post a simple graph and claim you have nothing to prove.

    The cycle just continues on until the last individual believing your bullshit, questions it.
     

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