Roulette What if I told you...

You are awarded one mediocre "sigh"

 

OK, so I created a sim that breaks out the phenomenon. It's looks great for a progression when it's bad. It's amazing when it does extraordinarily good. Nice going on this Turbo.

I'll will have to make a conservative scheme that fits my demands for enjoyment at casinos. Might as well customize it for having fun. My gambling goal in life is to make the casinos think I'm going to lose any time soon, have them tempt me into coming back by giving me rooms, meals, shows, and cash, and take all my travel expenses for a road trip off my winnings. For me that is fulfillment. It makes no sense having the casino 86 me. It's like fishing for Golden Trout way up high in the High Sierra. You must coax those fish into the fry pan. If you tell everyone then there will be no more secret fishing spots.

Catch your own fish, I'm out of here.

 

How accurate are these graphs? Im confused by the amount won at spin 47.
Thanks

 

Apologies TG if its blindingly obvious but maybe someone else can tell me then? I know Gizmo said with the graph and numbers we have everything now?
At spin 47ish it looks like an amount of 1400(again ish) is won. A progression of 5/25/100 is being used so unsure how this amount was won as it doesnt look like there should be over 2000 in bets at this point or ever!

 

I have some questions Turbo.

Say you have your expectaitions within xx number of spins. Things play out and you continue on playing past this number of spins. How does your expectation change/continue? Are you looking at a rolling group of numbers e.g. With each new number you disgusted the oldest number in a sequence?

I tried this method out, or at least my understanding, went from 200 units to 700 then lost it all . Anyway, from reviewing all my spins and data there seemed to be a few things I was doing wrong and needed tweaking. From that I think I should be about 200 up after all that.

I play live online roulette and they tend to spin about 40 times, then change dealer. I had been treating each new dealer as if I had just got to the table, thus resetting numbers and getting fresh expectations. Not sure if this is something you do or should this not really influence things?

 

Multiple wins or losses back to back can result in a chart jumping or falling in ways that look a bit strange perhaps.

A dealer change has nothing to do with it. The math stays the same regardless of the dealer. That is why this works against any dealer and even RNG where there is no dealer at all.

 

Cool thanks. I put the numbers along the chart and it just seemed it should have been a smaller amount won at that point but whatever, the numbers still won!
Last night i tried combining repeats and the pattern in each dozen method not repeating with excellent results! So i started betting once a number had hit twice and would continue to bet this number unless a number in another dozen in the same position overtook in times hit then id swap to that. I was going to do this for 110 spins with a progression but ended up finishing after around 70 just flat betting and well up.

 

Hi Turbo.
Looking at these numbers you posted I made it that.
36 wins @ spin 25
7 wins @ spin 32
34 wins @ spin 33
36 wins @ spin 35
34 wins @ spin 41
7 wins @ spin 43
3 wins @ spin 46
20 wins @ spin 49
20 wins @ spin 53
20 wins @ spin 54
1 wins @ spin 56
7 wins @ spin 57
I noticed in your graph you never got a win @ spin 49 ???
Was that a mistake on your part ?
Just thought I would ask.
D.

 

I wanted to answer a few questions I keep getting in my email about the Nov 16th chart and numbers posted.
I've gotten a lot of emails where people are telling me that the spin list is incomplete or there are numbers missing, etc.
It was 58 spins - all of the spins are posted (not 60 spins or some other number).
I also said that I used a 5/25/100 progression but that others would work just as well - I wasn't 100% specific on this though. The exact progression was a little different but based on the 5/25/100 and those amounts were bet on numbers during the session so I mentioned them.
I don't want to confuse anyone - and I'm also not going to spell out spin-by-spin how I placed bets.
The point of the thread was to show that a progression beats this game and nothing else is needed.

 

Sorry previous post was wrong by 1 spin.
This list underneath is correct.




Hi Turbo.
Looking at these numbers you posted I made it that.
36 wins @ spin 26
7 wins @ spin 33
34 wins @ spin 34
36 wins @ spin 36
34 wins @ spin 42
7 wins @ spin 44
3 wins @ spin 47
20 wins @ spin 50
20 wins @ spin 54
20 wins @ spin 55
1 wins @ spin 57
7 wins @ spin 58
I noticed in your graph you never got a win @ spin 50 ???
Was that a mistake on your part ?
Just thought I would ask.

 

Progressions work, until they don't.

 

A progression that can't lose - won't.

 

I made no mistake. It is possible to "win" a bet and the net result of a spin is still negative.

 

Does anyone have any real spin data they would be willing to share with me? Want to do some research/testing. It don't have a log big enough for what I want?

 

I also like 14 red Greg.

Just download integers from random.org

 

Think I'm almost there. Getting some amazing results

 

Fuck off you Fossell.. haha!

 

Oh ha! I see what you did there… Don't be a dick

 

Nice fossell, any way you know to get real spin data? Just need to test some things myself and give it a dry run. Think I am 80% there but the last fine tuning is always what makes the difference and the hardest to do!!

 

Suppose like bombs mentioned use integers at random.org. https://www.random.org/integers/
People have used Spielbank casino archive for years too. http://www.spielbank-hamburg.de/en/games/roulette/permanenzen.html