Roulette What if I told you...

The progression changes nothing. The house edge of 5.26% is applied to every dollar bet. The law of large numbers does not support a progression or any method or system (to win), when playing with a disadvantage.

You seem to be knowledgeable about math, computers, and gambling to understand your method doesn't work. Instead, you're leading others down a bad path. If you do use your system, for whatever reason, I hope you lose all your money in the casino and consequently get run over by an 18-wheeler shortly thereafter.

 

Lol. Sorry I've been doing great and will continue to do so.
Back to whatever AP section you enjoy and leave the methods and systems to those who understand that things are possible.
How many wheels of the 18 are going to hit me ? And what is the payout ?

 

RS, this is one of the great advantages of a gambling site whose administrators claim no expertise in gambling. Geniuses like Turbo have free rein to expound any and all ideas.

Turbo utilizes "instinct." He thereby takes this out of the realm of simple math and into the realm of artistic genius.

C'mon, RS, have you no appreciation of true genius? He's a philosopher, for God's sake. You don't even have to score 140 on an IQ test to be a genius if you're a philosopher. Genius comes with the philosophizing territory.

 

Darn, there's that "Show Ignored Content" link again - someone must have said something.... but nah - how important could it have been.

 

What you have to remember about Dr. Sir Anyone in particular is that his purpose in posting in the forums is to locate vulnerable wheels. He has been quite explicit about that. He's looking for contacts - the more the better. So it wouldn't make sense for him to give any credence to systems or any method of play which doesn't involve physical aspects of the game. A key part of the strategy in his "recruitment campaign" is to trash the competition, i.e. systems. The more readers and posters he can convince that systems are worthless, the more potential contacts he has. Simple as that.

I know the constant "trolling" can be annoying, but I don't think he's a troll in the usual sense in that he's deliberately trying to get a reaction, nor do I think he really cares one way or the other whether anyone understands the received "truth" about systems; he's not doing it for idealistic reasons or to "save" roulette players from the gambler's fallacy; his reasons are more personal than that (and not saying that's a bad thing, it's just something to keep in mind when you read his posts).

So IMO it's a big waste of time trying to explain your reasons for thinking that there can be merit in systems, or trying to "prove" that they can work. It wouldn't suit his agenda to even acknowledge that possibility. It's not that he has tried systems and only then turned to AP, having found them wanting; he has never been interested in them and never will be.

So I think that if system players keep his agenda in mind they might be more tolerant.. or not.

 

100 % correct

Except he puts a LOT of effort into repeating the same thing and posting condescending pictures and being a complete douchebag

But other then that it's a recruitment game for him

10% recruit posts, 90% douchebag posts

He's one of those people that will refuse to see another side even if you make a valid point. It's his agenda and his agenda only

Ain't nobody got time for that. Enjoying the hiatus. He must be in "the field"

 

BINGO, been saying that for months and months. The only downside? A person(s) have bullied you off a board.

Ken

 

That's a kind of bizzare analysis, and only a little bit accurate. It is of no value for me, whatsoever, to convince someone that their system doesn't work. As a matter of fact, explaining to someone that their system is merely an expansion of the gambler's fallacy and that they can't side step probability tends to alienate a potential contact. Consequently, I will sometimes pretend to be a system player just to get information on various areas, leaving the system player to their delusions. (It is true that I keep a second ID in some forums, just for it.) However, if I believe that their obsession is a having a destructive effect on their lives, then I will speak up.

As a professional, I know what works, and what doesn't. I choose to butt heads with some system players because I can't stand to see infectious fallacies spread, and scammers prey on the ignorant. Ridiculous pathogens that I instantly recognize as being dead ends and absurd, flare up and infect the gullible. At times, I'm almost offended at how fOOLiSh some otherwise intelligent people can be as they "feed the bear."

 

Show me where someone has made a valid point, that isn't an old recycled idea rooted in the gambler's fallacy. Anyone?

 

@ Bayes - trying to contact you. I think PMs aren't available to you here since you are a new member.
Perhaps you could shoot me a email ? I'm not sure if I can post my email on the forum(s) but it's on my profile page. Cheers.

 

I had a strategy that I was sure could not fail. It failed twice at the casino practically back to back. I'm almost positve the tables are fixed. That's why I like to play craps, at least the dice are in my hand and I can influence the outcome. This was my roll practicing last night. I'm trying to create instructional videos.

 

Hi Turbo, I tried to reply to your pm but couldn't. I don't want to post my email address here. BTW I had a message from admin regarding multiple accounts. Are you admin? I'll post about that in another thread.

 

I just got a notification in my email that (at the other forum) a reply had been posted so I clicked on it to look.
Wow - it's been a while since I left.
Then I noticed a thread all about "this thread". Interesting.
It's nice to see that some people are/were taking note of what's going on.
Perhaps whatever happens here in the "challenge" thread will carry on to other forums as well - more people will be led in the right direction.
I have no intention of checking other forums though.
(and no.... I wasn't mad about the "contest" page ranking lol - I simply refused to use what I know would work because my bets would have been exposed. What I did do though - and those in the group of people who played on that page know - would type the numbers in the chat window that would win.. and they did. Often 2-3 in a row. I also helped by pointing out and assisting in combating the cheating and trickery that was going on - It was important to keep the contest fair - but the claim of me somehow being upset about my rank had nothing to do with why I left. It was a great idea but wasn't properly executed in order to be fair to everyone. Perhaps by now it's all running smooth.)
Perhaps Steve would like to participate in the "challenge" thread ? I'm open to anyone anti-system to debate with but like I said in that thread - I won't do any step-by-step on how it's done. I will simply post fact and back it up - and then if I am wrong - that person can of course point it out (and why) if they choose to.

 

How many numbers do you play? AT MOST that is. If I were to guess it would be 13 after reading your threads.

 

I agree, but you have to acknowledge that there are scammers who target potential AP players too. System sellers don't have the monopoly on scamming. Members on other forums I've posted on assume I'm an AP because I argue that it's the only sensible way to attack roulette and that systems are worthless, but in fact I don't play roulette at all. I guess that makes me a fraud in some people's eyes but I'm not responsible for their assumptions.

You don't have to be a professional AP to understand that physics is superior to systems - at least THEORETICALLY - because it addresses cause and effect whereas systems don't. Using systems is like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. For a strategy to be effective it must at least make sense theoretically, but systems don't even cross that initial hurdle so how can they be effective? The theoretical basis of systems is flawed but these flaws are not understood by system players so the underlying logic is never addressed. The 'solution' is to keep inventing new systems in the hope that eventually one will work. This is akin to not understanding that 2 + 2 = 4 by definition and then trying to find an instance where 2 + 2 does NOT equal 4. It's absurd.

 

Turbomor,
Even if and that's a big if physics is superior to systems, the casinos can do a lot about the physics but nothing about the systems.

 

Turbo working on his next roulette method >>

 

That's not too far off lol

 

Hello Turbo,

I have tried emailing you several times but cant get a hold of you.

On a scale of 1 to 10 how close is this estimation of your method?

Start betting on every number which hits 3 times and continue betting on them as they are hit more times.
Use a progression on these numbers for every stretch of 37 spins 1,2,4,8,16,32
Play until in the plus.

Are there some more ideas out there?

 

I would suggest a more aggressive progression.