Craps PLEASE BAN SEVENOUT from the Forum... He is EVIL

I noticed that some fellow Craps Experts are having a good bar fight going on this Forum. It is actually a great learning event for those of you new to the Craps World. Last year, 2014, I actually excused myself from a Craps Forum that seemed to get rather... frisky. I voted myself off that Forum. More out of boredom and having to follow my Threads with my own posts as information seemed to be lacking, otherwise. At least I could discuss most Craps concepts in more than one or two paragraphs. Many experts... are into counting words. Me... I can go on and on when a subject is dear to my heart.

Gambling has a pecking order.

Myself, I am among those pecking around for loose pieces of bread at local Parks. I had expected to meet some of these of the top echelon of the Craps Kingdom last month... but my telephone must have been out of order. Maybe the intent was to get my name and personal information. It did not make me a happy camper and I will remember the sweet words to get me to uncover my eggs. Many pundits talk as if they actually own a Casino or two from their winnings at Craps. Stardust. Dunes... those come to mind.

Many of the big disputes concern Dice Influencing. It may also be called Dice Control, Axis something or other, Biased Dice and I am sure new names will surface over time. Since I am only familiar with the handling and orientating dice as an observer, I have to leave this to the experts who charge to learn the technique(s). It is a bit too intense for me, Dice Influencing, as I am a recreational Craps Player and losing at a Craps Table lacks any merit.

Myself. I am a Dice Chucker. My Full Monte System depends on totally random outcomes of the dice. Some one wanting to toss 2, 3, 7, 11 or 12's is not going to do me any good at all. I need 5, 6, 8 and 9's with a dusting of Hard 6's and 8's. Not asking much.

I would like to see this website get recognition and become the premier site for new players with questions and hard core experienced players to answer questions. Some newbies, as they are called to be friendly, sure have some twisted ideas on how to play Craps. Once you have learned some bad habits... they tend to stick around, much too long.

There are too many lawyers playing Craps. They can tell you the good and bad, but can never make up their mind which... Or politicians... they want you to vote for your favorite dumb System and let the low information voter of Craps have a say in the outcome. I say, great! Change your own diapers.

I can go without playing at a Craps Table for the rest of my life. I owned a 12 and a 14 foot Craps Table. These suckers are heavy. I owned electronic slot machines and will not put a coin into one at a Casino. Blackjack tables. Let it Ride. My wife uses our Roulette wheel table to fold clothes upon. It looks cool... but is also a game to stay away from, unless you dress nice and have an English accent.

I would have "slight of hand" poker players stop by and show their magic. I will never play Poker, either, after seeing what can be done with a deck of cards. All of these things are tools to part you, of your money. I have ten thousand, maybe more DICE. I love dice. I enjoy Craps. I do not like to LOSE and if you keep playing Craps, you will need to work until you have died, gone to Hell and came back as a Pit Boss at a Craps Pit to ever come close to even money.

Over time I realized that the other Casino Games have ZERO interest to me. I am burned out from owning it, teaching it, doing it, moving it, teaching basic simple Systems and much like a Casino Owner... let wide eyed optimists get their own education losing.

But... CRAPS. You CAN beat Craps. Not in the long run... but in those short spurts when the dice are hitting your pressed up wagers, over and over. Then... it stops and the table begins to take back what you thought were YOUR CHIPS... you stayed too long, and I already told you about that.

The real Craps Pros have their own websites. They earned that right. They might even do a very nice job of teaching their students. I do not care. If you have to PAY... leave me out of it. I charged $35 per person, for four hours at a classroom, half sized practice Craps Table and rotated fresh dealers as instructors. Next these students played with the experienced Craps Players during our Las Vegas nights, three nights a week for the last hour of class. It was fun. We, dealers learned MORE how to play Craps... and many only prefer to DEAL, but not play at a live table with cash. Why? Come on... haven't you figured it out, yet?

Alright. This is your bedtime story for tonight. Kiss those dice in your dreams... as that is the only time your fantasy Craps Game will ever happen.

 

Negative! I say DON'T ban seven Out from the Craps Forum..... For he speaks the Truth. LOL As Seven Out States: We all have our superstitions, Systems, Unique ways of Tossing the dice(Dice Influencing). The bottom line with ANY approach is that you try to Play smart(whatever that is), & Keep your fingers crossed. A rehearsed Toss, a toss at 100 miles an hour, or a "Medium" toss. They ALL work, & fail at one time or another. Some DI's say do it this way.... OR ELSE!!!! I say: Do whatever allows you to win. If scratching your ass prior to tossing the dice gives you Favorable Results..... Scratch On. What I have come to find is that there is no "Right Way", or "Wrong Way" of Tossing the Dice. That Little Old Grand Ma with the 154 Roll Hand proves That Point. Seven Out claims to be a "Dice Chucker". Nothing wrong with that. The Key is to gain Comfort in the way that you Toss/play the game. All of this "Pay Me, Do it this way, Or Else" Mumbo Jumbo just gives me a Headache. The "Pretty" Mid Air Tosses go Errant just like the "Ugliest' tosses you've ever seen. A Negative expectation Game is Non-Discriminatory, when taking your Money! LOL

 

Admin.... I couldn't agree More. I think we all have a common goal .... To win more Money!!! It really doesn't matter who the Driver is. As long as I'm in the Car, Bus, Plane when it arrives at the cashier's Cage.... Winnings in tow.... I could care Less!!! As the late, Great "Luther Lassiter" Said: YOU take the trophy, & I'll take the Cash!!

 

There are a small number of individuals who live for Craps. It is not that important to me. I care very little about personalities, whose who in the Craps Universe or who is competing with counting coup among each other.

Craps is entertainment with caveats. I would no less pay for a Class to learn some complicated System to make $5 an hour at a Craps Table. As long as my Bankroll is running in the BLACK... I will play more frequently. Once I am in the RED, losing or lost earlier gains... I quit cold turkey.

I see my $200 Bankroll designated for the Craps Table as disposable income. If I lose it... it has been disposed and I quit. Lucky for me, it is not convenient to go to a Casino to play. My monthly entertainment for Craps is $200 a Month. Lose it on the first day of the month in ten minutes... that is the end of it. It is not easy for some players to have self control of their hard earned money. When I lose... I do think of what I could have done with those losses. That tempers my enthusiasm for Craps. It just does not matter. This is the "EVIL" aspect of Craps. Those in the business do not want to see these their income stream drying up. The Boxman is constantly watching buy ins, and coloring up totals on their computer. YOU are being tracked.

There are millions of hours played at Craps Tables each day by Casino Players. There are some ODD stories that the "Professional Thread Posters" can relate, which I have never experienced. So these events are among Dealer/Player that are way to familiar at the Craps Table. I do not want to be that familiar with Dealers nor Players at the Craps Table.

Gambling is a vice. An EVIL habit if you are not in control of your emotional gaming demons. Craps will devour your income as you become more desperate to... recover losses. In order to perfect a solid Craps System and Self Control... is difficult as nobody selling "snake oil" about the easy money to be won... is really giving you the whole story.

Over time, each of us will make a number of posts. Eventually this small percentage of "Professional Craps Cheerleaders" will gather and take the opposition down. You will think you need to take classes, which for most is not a bad idea. I am finding more and more cheerleaders taking over the Craps Forum. It will get nasty and nastier. I already see it coming from several Threads. This same group has ruined another Craps Forum with their venom towards one another and their followers.

It is with this developing atmosphere that this Lone Wolf among the Pack needs to finally quit. Eventually you or I will become the next target. I have seen this happen before and it is a good time to quit. This was how I voted myself off of a previous Forum that went from instructional question/answer format to selling Snake Oil and the venom that comes with competition among hustlers. I do this for Fun. Already... I see the fun becoming a feud among a small number of the SAME people who ruined another Forum.

So, I am checking out and wish all of you well. This website is constructed very well, much like a previous website, and the personal attacks are coming. They will get worse. When the threats of bodily harm begin to rear up... you will understand what you are dealing with.

 

It'd be a shame to see Seven Out Leave the Forum. I truly enjoy reading his Post on this Forum, as well as another That He Frequently posts On!!! There's always a Bit of humor, along with Hard Core facts in his Many Posts. Seven Out Leaving? PLEASE say it aint so ! Seven Out...... Where You at, Buddy?

 

Just so long as you are only asking for randomness, and you do not expect to change the inherent odds/house EV.

 

Complicated systems won't make $5/hr anyway.

 

What the hell would that be?? LOL

 

A Dice Influencer is an individual, who passes as an exacting person on the basis of being able to write with prolific infinite strings of incomprehensible formulae, calculated with micromatic precision, from vague assumptions, which are based on debatable statistics taken from inconclusive experiments carried out with a pair or numerous pairs of dice of problematical accuracy, by persons of doubtful reliability and questionable reputation, for the avowed purpose of annoying and confounding a hopeless "chimerical" group of fanatics referred to all too frequently as... Dice Experts on the Gambling Forum.

1936- adapted to the Craps Forum and the longest run on sentence of the definition of a Dice Influencer, Dice Controller, Dice Whipper, Dice Chucker, Biased Dice Caliper jacker and numerous other disguises and names to protect the innocent.

May your pair of Dice toss true and your System be even truer.

 

Self exclusion is allowed by some forums, but not this one.