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Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

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  1. Mission146

    Mission146 Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to number your statements, MrV:

    1.) I don't know if that is possible, but it could probably be programmed.

    2.) That would be a pain in the ass to program, and I'm not even sure it is possible with the current software. We can somewhat easily set parameters for posters of a certain criteria (ie. x if fewer than y posts, z if y or greater posts) and that sort of thing, but I don't think there is currently any functionality to set any kind of parameters on an individual user. It could probably be done, but I seriously doubt if it would be worth the effort.

    3.) That's almost just as good as still being banned, in my opinion. You could maybe limit them to a sub-forum, but if you're going to let them post at all, limiting them to a single thread makes no sense. Besides, such a thread already exists, I'm posting in it as I type this.

    4.) Probably not. If it were 100% my call, and I am not going to name any handles, there are a couple of people I would bring back...but Nukes exist for a reason and there is no way in hell I'd bring back everyone who was nuked.
     
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  2. Mission146

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    I wasn't actually asking, but thank you for the response.

    The thing you have with Freddy, also, is that he is bitching about two things where taking one of his suggestions would actually help with the other thing he is bitching about. Since you are yourself a site Admin, you'll follow my logic here, so I'll explain:

    Freddy complains:

    A.) We count banned Members as Members. We count zero-posters as Members. We count one-posters (Spammers) as Members.

    AND

    B.) Our numbers lie because only a small percentage of membership visits the site daily.

    Okay, let's say we, "Fixed," the first of those two things: What would happen is that banned Members would NOT count as Members, we would delete all zero-posters and one-posters who are Spammers.

    However, that would cause our percentage of daily logins compared to total Members to INCREASE DRAMATICALLY which would actually have the effect of making us appear to be an even MORE ACTIVE site as compared to our total Membership. Even the banned Members who visit not being counted (who are counted now) would be more than offset because of how few they are in comparison to the total number of banned Members. Furthermore, if we delete the zero-posters and one-posters, what would happen is that the number of people who do visit daily (which would no longer include them) would skyrocket as a percentage of total Members.

    In other words, while he could argue that our total Member count is ARTIFICIALLY HIGH, that comes at the expense of our Daily Visitors/Total Members ratio (which is not even a metric I've ever heard of a Forum caring about) being ARTIFICIALLY LOW!
     
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  3. Ozzy

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    What about SHACK ??
     
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  4. RS

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    +1
     
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  5. MrV

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    Was Jerry Logan the most notorious WoV troll, or has he been eclipsed?
     
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  6. freddy

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    Thanks for clarifying. It would have been helpful if you had labeled the article as fiction in the beginning. So as it stands now, you wrote an article describing in detail your deviant sexual behavior and now take it all back. To recap:

    ---You DID NOT have your penis and testicles out while driving on I-76 that day in July. (You don't specifically say that you've never done it.)

    ---You DID NOT masturbate while driving on I-76 that day in July.

    ---You DID NOT pass a female passenger in a U Haul while masturbating while driving on I-76 that day in July.

    Okay, I'll give you the benefit of doubt. Unlike you calling me, a person you never met, mentally retarded, moron etc. You can't attack the post so you attack the poster. Didn't daddy Wizard teach you better?

    So it was all a fantasy of yours. That may be even more disturbing...having fantasies about deviant sexual behavior and then taking an exorbitant amount of time writing about them.

    You say your fiancee, Alexandra, found the article "mildly amusing". That's hard to believe. I'm surprised that she didn't see it as a giant red flag. But I don't know her and, unlike you, am not able evaluate people I've never met. I do believe that most parents wouldn't want someone who fantasizes about and then writes about deviant sexual behavior to be anywhere near their kids.

    I'm not judging. People fantasize about all kinds of things....winning the lottery, being a famous sports figure, actor or even President. Or jerking off while driving. The latter is illegal by the way. You also violated WOV forum rule 8 by posting the link to the article. But you're special.

    I did some very basic research just for you.

    Exhibitionistic Disorder involves exposing one's genitals or sexual organs to a non-consenting person. This condition falls under the psychiatric category of paraphilic disorders. The prevalence of this disorder is unknown but is thought to be 2 percent to 4 percent of the male population.

    That's kind of low. I couldn't find any figures on those who just fantasize about about without doing it or those who write about it without doing it. So carry on and good luck in your quest to ban Naughty Nathan. I was going to say he's still making a fool out of you but.....
     
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  7. Ozzy

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    You mean Rob Singer..definitely at the top of the list.
     
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  8. Mickey Crimm

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    I don't hold grudges.
     
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    Boz contacted us to remind us of his restrictions from August 2016 that prohibited him from posting in non-AP Forums due to his incessant derailing of threads in those sections. We had forgotten about those old restrictions from last year, so we misspoke when we said he had "no restrictions" on his account. We should have clarified that he had no "new" restrictions on his account, but it is true that once we moved this thread to the "Miscellaneous Gambling Forum" 9 days ago, Boz was no longer able to participate in it due to it now being located in a non-AP Betting Forum. So Mickey Crimm was correct. We apologize for this oversight. We have lifted Boz's old restriction so that he may continue participating in this thread now that it has been moved.
     
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  10. Mission146

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    Since it wasn't ALL fiction, I thought the disclaimers stating particular sections were fiction worked better. The event was about as disgusting and non-sexual as an event can be, but I was trying to make light of it.

    Correct, and I will now specifically state I have never driven in such a way.

    Correct, and though you didn't ask, I've never masturbated whilst driving.

    Correct, since I have never masturbated whilst driving, that event could not possibly happen.

    Any attacks on your posts and/or counterargument have been met with deliberate obtuseness and/or changing of the subject. In a few specific instances, if I had to assume that you were not being deliberately obtuse, I could only conclude that you are retarded. All of my posts are in accordance with the (lack of) Rules of this Forum.

    It probably took me ten minutes to type that, like I said, more than half of it was true. Doing anything mentioned therein is certainly not a fantasy of mine.

    Um...she doesn't have kids. And, yes, mildly amusing is probably about right.

    This is the sort of thing that makes me think you might be retarded. Because of the disclaimer, I did not promote anything that would be illegal or state that I actually did anything illegal. It also has to be, "Obviously illegal."

    Furthermore, an event occurring outside of the State of Nevada cannot violate Nevada law. It would not violate United States law, because the individual states are left to their individual jurisdictions in deciding what constitutes indecent exposure and what the penalties are for same. The only exception to that could, arguably, be Federal lands...which a state turnpike is decidedly not.

    So, under no possible standard was Rule 8 violated.

    I did some basic research for you.

    Mental Retardation occurs in 2.5-3% of the general population, so if you are retarded, you are hardly alone.

    From:

    http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mental+retardation

    "A diagnosis of mental retardation is made if an individual has an intellectual functioning level well below average and significant limitations in two or more adaptive skill areas. Intellectual functioning level is defined by standardized tests that measure the ability to reason in terms of mental age (intelligence quotient or IQ). Mental retardation is defined as IQ score below 70-75. Adaptive skills are the skills needed for daily life. Such skills include the ability to produce and understand language (communication); home-living skills; use of community resources; health, safety, leisure, self-care, and social skills; self-direction; functional academic skills (reading, writing, and arithmetic); and work skills."

    While my conclusions are not professional or decisive:

    You have the ability to produce language, but not the ability to understand it, as is clear by your poor degree of reading comprehension. You use community resources quite poorly, which I conclude based on your use of this Forum.

    Your use of this Forum is done for the purpose of attempting to agitate others who are essentially strangers to you, which:

    Indicates a lack of both self-direction and social skills. It seems that you are unable, despite a very good start in your most recent post, to direct yourself to carry on a conversation in any manner that is either mature or reasonable. It is due to this lack of self-direction that you also suffer from poor social skills which can be categorized as an inability to form social bonds with people, as is clear by your continuously obstinate and behavior that defies any reasonable social standard.

    Furthermore, due to your poor reading comprehension, we can again conclude that you lack functional academic skills, even though that is redundant to the language thing.

    In any event, the only thing we are missing is an IQ test, which I do not have the ability, desire or inclination to administer to you. However, given your clear limitations in more than two adaptive skill areas, barring an IQ Test, I must conclude that you are retarded.

    Fortunately, after reading the remainder of that page, I conclude that you are probably only mildly mentally retarded.
     
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  11. freddy

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    Coming from you I will wear the "retard" moniker proudly, BJ. Your feeble, desperate attempts to deflect your fantasies by calling me retarded only serve to make your denials ring hollow.

    Unlike you, I'm no armchair expert on everything under the sun but this one is so easy....even a retard can do it. Even a retard can see a potential problem. Also, a sexual deviant in denial is not uncommon. Not saying you...just saying.

    I'd like to suggest that you talk to someone about your fantasies, your proclivities. Again....not an expert like you but something is off. Given your situation, you may be able to be seen at your local free clinic. No shame in asking for help before it's too late. Do it for your family. Do it for your fiancee. Do it for the Wiz. Do it before a problem 'arises'.

    So you may continue to call me retarded or you can take a good look in the mirror. It's all good. Insult my family if retard is too mild. Whatever you need to do to show WOV how great you are.

    By the way... whilst? Did you forget where you were and thought you were on LCB? Posting overseas? Whilst. Too funny.
     
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  12. Mission146

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    Why would I insult your family?

    I don't care enough to bring your family into it or anything else. Should I say, "Alleged," family as BWC says, "Alleged," college degree? No, because:

    1.) That'd be pointlessly immature.

    AND

    2.) I don't give enough of a fuck.

    There is nothing that can change the fact that the only reason I ever reappeared here was yourself and circle jerk buddy BWC using my full name in several posts and posting other personal details. Why would you do this? Why would you check my picture every day?

    The fact is you care about me and my presence here about 1,000,000x more than I care about you. Do you see me over on WoV saying Freddy this and Freddy that, GF this and GF that? Of course not, because neither you nor most people here rise to the level of being worthy of giving a fuck about.

    Those are the facts, sad but true. So, the only thing you idiots are left with is calling someone out by real name, and other personal info, because it is the only way to get that person to pay you the attention you so desperately crave.

    And then you have to deliberately distort some piece of writing meant to be comedic. The original version wouldn't have even included disclaimers except I thought, "Some idiot is going to pretend to believe these things actually happened." You pretended to believe it despite the disclaimers!

    Anyway, this is really simple: You care about me on some level and I don't care about you. You read everything I write, you do Internet searches on me, you look up my picture daily, by admission. If I died, it wouldn't be long until you found out.

    The only reason I have to continue to be here is because of you and your circle jerk buddy BWC because I am apparently required to report any further instances of doxxing to have them removed. That is because you went WAY out of your way to ensure that I have no choice but to care about your posts here.

    You have given your word you would not continue to post my full name, (the first name is still doxxing) I grant that, but I have no reason to believe you. BWC has also not yet given his word that I recall seeing.

    So, there you have it, you care about me for whatever reason you do and I care about you because, only after your best efforts, you rose to the level of a minor inconvenience for me. Yet, you have the audacity to speak about the patheticness of my endeavors.

    It's pretty ironic, really. You allegedly consider me in some way pathetic yet devote time and effort to me that wouldn't have otherwise be at all reciprocal.

    If you would like to get back to the topic of WoV, that's fine, I'd like to think I've been forthright in answering any questions about that directed specifically to me to the best of my ability. That's better treatment than you or a few others here deserve, yet I've given it to you. I'll continue to do that.
     
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  13. freddy

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    Oh my memory challenged . Here's a little refresher:

    I said "I will no longer post your last name"

    You said "You can refer to my other handles as much as you wish". Is Pierce a handle?

    That was last name only. Now you say using Pierce is doxxing. You use Pierce all over the place and I've never seen one objection. So it's okay for everyone else to use it but not me. Now that's just hurtful, Pierce. And when I said I wouldn't use your LAST name what did you do? You thanked me. So help a retard out. Do you want everyone here to stop using the name Pierce...the name that has always been used freely on WOV?

    What if I referred to every Tom, Dick, and Harry? Would I be doxxing everyone with that name? I know it's frustrating to come here and not get your own way, to not be the big shot but it's part of growing up. You'll see someday.

    If you want me to stop using a first name held by thousands of people...just ask and I'll take it under advisement. But you have to promise to get help. At least say you'll think about it. You have to get those thoughts out of your head at some point.
     
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  14. Mission146

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    Because I want to get back to the topic of WoV, and also to save you time, let me cut off the anticipated denial of the fact that you care about me with the following short facts:

    1.) My posting record will indicate that I made no posts between June 30, 2016 and January 3, 2017. Slightly more than six months.

    2.) If Admin here has access to my login record, if such records are kept, I imagine Admin could attest to my belief that I MAY have logged in at some point in July and then not again until January 2, 2017 or January 3, 2017. I can't remember whether I logged in during the month of July or not.

    ---The two facts above indicate how little I cared about you, personally, BWC or this Forum. I.E., Not at all.

    3.) At some point in this thread, you began referring to me by my real name and made other statements containing personal information.

    4.) Let us look at the pieces of information you know about me that I never once put on WoV:

    -The specific location of a previous employer.

    -The phone number of a previous employer.

    -At least one previous address, and given the fact that there are others still that would be easier to get, I assume you know more previous addresses than that.

    -Specific financial information.

    -An E-Mail address that I believe I was a teenager the last time I used. It was certainly at least thirteen years ago, and I suspect more like fifteen or sixteen.

    -I suspect that you know previous phone numbers for me, which I base on where I suspect you could get previous address information.

    5.) Let's look at actions:

    -Either you or your circle jerk partner BWC called said previous employer, by your own admission, to see whether or not I was still working there and confirmed that I was not.

    -Either you or BWC (forget which) took it upon yourself to look up the BBB rating for said establishment and discuss that.

    -The multitudinous amount of posts made by both you and BWC about me, mentioning me specifically by name, without me ever even being here.

    ***

    And, despite all of that, I would not ever have been aware of your posts about me but for someone else telling me about them.

    So, before you deny caring about me and/or suggest that I in some way cared about you prior to those posts, please keep the irrefutable facts above in mind. There were quite a few of them, so you might want to reread them ten or eleven times before you respond lest you forget them.

    Also, before you make any other posts denigrating me in any way, please recall that the more you put me down the more embarrassing it is for you to care so much about such a person.
     
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  15. Mission146

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    I know that is what you said. My post stated that you said you would not use my full name. My first name is not my full name. Therefore, my post already covered that. You have no reading comprehension ability. You should take some remedial classes to work on that.

    I do not use my first name all over the place, where, in public communication, have I done that? Other people have referred to me as that, sure, but where have I myself publicly stated it?

    I said you can refer to me by any handle you wish, Mission146, Pavlov146, Metallicat146 or any other previous handle of mine you may be aware of. Perhaps I gave you too much credit assuming you would comprehend the meaning of, "Handle," used in the context of an Internet forum. From now on, I promise not to give your ability to understand context any undue credit whatsoever.

    Yes, I did thank you, fewer posts for me to report. I still don't know that I BELIEVE you. I don't know that if I disappear from here for six months again that you're not going to go out of your way to goad me to bring me back. And, yes, I want everyone here to stop using my first name, why do you think I have reported it every single time...allowing for the possibility of missing one or two?

    Furthermore, you are occasionally using my first name and pseudonym simultaneously and within the same post. That is something I would request people NOT do at WoV if I ever take notice of it.

    I don't need to ask, I'll just continue to report you for doxxing. You can either get reported or not get reported, I'm led to believe there are no consequences of any kind here, but I could be wrong.
     
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    I do care about you, P. You make it sound like a bad thing. It's a good thing. I'm not putting you down...there's no need to be so defensive. If I didn't care about you I wouldn't suggest that you seek help. Only someone who cares would do that... unlike your fake WOV friends who take the easy way out and say nothing. What must they be saying behind your back? Maybe you can ask your leader to put you on his insurance. I don't imagine the LCB policy covers much.
     
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    Yes, BJ, like your last name all you have to do is ask. I treat everyone equally....something you have no concept of at WOV where you are manboy's unpaid puppet. I kept my word on your last name and will do so per your request on the first as well. The fact that you don't believe me is so hurtful I don't know what to do. Maybe I'll do a rest room tour on the interstate to cheer myself up. Now where did I put those shorts?
     
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    I don't care whether or not you care about me, I care about my name and personal information being mentioned here. The mere fact that you care about me is of no concern to me whatsoever. You have at least attempted to put me down, that's undeniable.

    I'm unconcerned with what any human being on the planet, whether or not I know them IRL, has to say about me behind my back. Much less do I care about what people I have never met in person have to say about me behind my back. Were they to post information about me publicly, yes, I would admittedly care about that.

    I have health insurance, it is not free, it is not through LCB.
     
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    It appears to have escaped your attention that Wizard no longer owns WoV, therefore, were I a puppet of anyone, it would be LCB. Of course, LCB pays me for other things, but not Administrating the forum. Why should they pay me to do something I was already doing for free? I do it because I like it. As I have stated countless times, if there was never a need for me to enforce any Rule against any Member, which means that every Rule is being followed, (or any rule violations are minor enough to be unworthy of mention) I would enjoy nothing more than that.

    As an Administrator, if I never had to do anything except nuke some spam and ban the spammer from time to time, that would be terrific.

    I recommend avoiding the Interstate restrooms, if at all possible. Unfortunately, there are a few Roy Rogers locations on I-76, and Roy Rogers and the eventual need to use the restroom often go hand in hand.
     
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    I'll stop short of saying I don't believe you and point out that you derive much pleasure from banning people.

    How many times have you been to the Shackleford home? Is that a fair question?

    I don't mean to be rude but I have plans for the weekend and don't usually post when traveling. See ya Monday.
     
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