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At least you admit to something. But you give everyone new a hard time thinking they're all sock puppets. Go ahead, you can admit the other stuff too, you'll feel better. Like, we know lambchop the sock puppet spurned your adoration's and desires thus you viciously sodomized your Winnie the Poo bear to take it out on, who told lambchop, who of course told your MOM and Dad and you were severely punished for the whole sordid affair.

And that's why you struggle with sock puppets to this day. That and you're still paying the fines after trashing the puppet show at your kids school two years ago.

I feel for you.

 

Ah the delicious irony of hoisting a troll on his own petard.

 

Absolutely not true. The only people I give a hard time to are people I'm suspicious of and sometimes System Players.

I can usually tell if someone has a legitimate question or whatever.

 

Let me put you on the spot. You have no problem calling out fakes, frauds, bullshitters etc and you are right more than you are wrong. Why does Wizardofnothing get a pass? Why haven't you questioned one claim he has made? What does this guy hold over the mods? Surely you can't believe the wild stories that this guy posts.

Dozens of claims each more outrageous than the last. Do you really think he is representative of the AP community? Forget AP for a moment. I believe you communicated with Juicy Jennie when she was posting on WOV. WoN came right out and accused her of being a prostitute. He's the only one to have ever said that and he was not a forum member at the time of Jennie....well not under his present name.

I know it's a lot easier to go after a demure person like Nathan or Kentry but I'd like to hear your honest comments on this fraud.

 

What's not true? That you do not lead wov in sock puppet accusations? Or you're not a Winnie the Poo abuser?

 

How long did it take to look up petard?

 

It seemed that won tried to weasel out of the nathan bet. Has he done that before?

 

There are those who suspect that WoN was formerly WOV member strictlyAP who was permanently banned for not paying a bet. There are similarities between the two.

In the HotBlonde Challenge 2, WoN offered a 5K bet then backed down. That challenge seems to have gotten derailed so there may be nothing to pay. Can't technically call it weasel but it would have been interesting. Anything can happen when dealing with these types. That includes the fat blonde who is no prize by any stretch of the imagination. She still has her puppy dogs though. Right,SOOPOOP?

 

Yes under the alias of StrictlyAP (When a forum member doesn't pay 30+pages) of his infamous welching of AyeCarumba bet...read 5 minutes of what he says identical match.

 

Got a guy flying out to Vegas tomorrow to check out Stadium Blackjack for me. He has a site that competes with BJ21. His info there was WRONG. Maybe you have heard of him. Henry Tamburin HaHa

 

What site is that? BJ insider? Good site.... I read it regularly. Sometimes find some info that I didn't pick up on myself. But "competes with BJ21"?

 

Kewlj , you took me serious about bj21. What a disaster since Chan and Zuga bought it. But article on Stadium Blackjack was full of errors on BJ insider. He got 2 different versions from his people in PA. So he will check it out in Vegas. And post any corrections. I agree, Henry runs a first class operation.

 

Is Wong still required to post there, like Mike is at WoV as part of the sales contract negotiation?

 

I have not participated at BJ21 for over a year. And no, I was not banned there when the owners sided with Qfit in trying to extend his ban of me throughout the internet. Not that Qfit didn't try...but the administrator at BJ21 would not go along with him....told him no. Just as any reasonable site administrator would have. Only Shackleford chose the low road.

I decided to stop posting at BJ21 a couple months before the sale to LCB and my decision had nothing to do with that either. To me the value in BJ21 was and continues to be the archives. It's time consuming but there is invaluable information to be found reading through the archives. The current day discussions I found less value in, as many of the members where older guys that while they have success and experience to speak of, few of them are current day card counters or blackjack players. They reveal advise and share experiences from a different era, some of which just isn't transferable to today's games and conditions.

You can also just feel the contempt by these older guys for today's games and conditions. And I get that there is frustration on their part as they have personally witnessed and experience conditions deteriorate, but I do get tired of hearing that things aren't like they used to be, and more importantly not worth pursuing. Those of us playing currently, deal with what we have available. It does me no good to hear others bitch about the good old days. Plus when some of these older, experienced guys do post, there is quite a bit of attitude towards younger, newer guys. Very unwelcoming.

Of course one of the huge values in a site like BJ21 is the other players you can meet and form relationships and network with other players and members. Whether you do so in person or limit these relationships to online networking as I do. I have an established network and don't need to continue to participate at a site, that I am not enjoying to maintain those networks and relationships.

Having left prior to the LCB take-over, I have wondered how that was received by the membership? (who pay a membership fee there). I suspect some of that older crowd wouldn't be too comfortable with the scenario of an on-line casino organization being involved, but that is just my gut feeling.

 

I don' know. Does Wong pose with models, ride a unicycle and hold puking contests? Did he have to do the rope climbing contest with Chan like manboy did?.....acting like a couple of 12 year olds. Maybe Chan will try to buy this site too. Start practicing your rope climbing, admin.

As far as Shackleford contributing to WOV...is Chan really getting his money's worth? Are people gambling solely because of the name Wizard? Very doubtful.

 

I doubt it. McDonalds is probably seeing an uplift in nugget sales though so that's a positive. Although the poor saps on cleaning duty might disagree. I doubt anyone would enjoy having to deal with an influx of Grubs vomiting all over the store every couple of hours.

 

The WOV mods continue to lay low refusing to respond to members' questions on Nathan's suspension. Beached whale was told point blank by a top member that it was a bad suspension and that she had done worse. Not a peep. She has uncharacteristacally made only 8 posts in the 10 days since she embarrassed herself, the owners, the mods and the entire forum with that nonsensical action.

Another very top member called BS on Mission/Pavlov/BJ/the fierce one. Not a peep. Wouldn't you think a response is warranted...for all the members? I wonder if Nathan will get credit for the extra time he spent on his first suspension...or will this one run over too? He still has 5 days to go. Will it turn into 6 or 7?

Let's check the scorecard. Nathan's first suspension was 7 days...not the standard 3. Issued by Mission at the urging of his good buddy Wizardofnothing/strictlyAP/Robsingerwho/Wizardofodds1.

Second suspension...14 days. Issued by Beached whale.

So when Nathan returns, whenever they feel like letting him back, it must be Mission the writer's turn for suspension number 3....Mission the writer who compares himself to Steven King. Both mods anxiously await orders from whoever is pulling their strings. Transparency? Hardly. And they will go right on allowing Nathan to be bullied, harassed, insulted and ridiculed. When he doesn't take the bait....bogus suspension number 3.

 

Participation here by the WoV mods is clearly an agenda to add some positive spin to the negative comments made here. They don't care about participating here....they care about offsetting some negative opinions and improving the WoV image.

Both Mission and Fisk have indicated they are unwilling or unable to stand up to Mike when they see something occur that they disagree with. That is really weak. That is a weak person in my opinion.

Furthermore, I have recently been made aware of an action by Mission at WoV, that has changed my opinion of him. I have found him to be saying one thing here, but doing things that contradict his statements here. Very Two faced.

While they are free to participate here, both these guys should be treated as a hostile witness in my opinion. They come with an agenda.

And Axel, isn't far behind them. I differentiate Axel because he is a respected, professional AP. I respect his AP skill and ability. But that is not the basis of his participation here. 95% of his participation here is defending WoV and Mike Shackleford. These guys are basically the Russians, trying to influence our discussions and opinions.

 

You probably won't believe me and I don't blame you for telling me to go stuff myself, but I agree 97% with your total assessments. The 3% is not full agreement about fisk. I think he's got more self respect than any of the wov personal and doesn't give two shits what really goes on there in his real life.

 

Ooh, it's been a while since my integrity was questioned. And you know how I love a good opportunity to defend =D

Reread from the start. I came here after being made aware, indirectly, by Wiz that this site existed. I heard mumblings here and there at WoV, sure, but it was nothing specific nor did it pique my interest. When Wiz mentioned MC's threat and the site was finally named, that's when I finally found it and came over.

Upon reading and finding some familiar names, I signed up because MC was here and it allowed me the bonus of confronting LarryS. He said some uncomplimentary things about me at GG years ago, so I challenged him here, he responded, and the matter was settled. And that, of course, led to many others adding $0.02, or pointing out this or that, and so I've sort of stayed on. You point out some shit I agree with, I'll tell you I agree, and I have. Even stuff that's been critical of "my site" or "my leader" or myself. I fucked up MC's suspension? Yeah, I kinda did. Your suspension, KJ, was dirty? Yeah, it was. If my participation has been anything but sincere, I've not heard a peep from anyone else about it, and would ask you specifically to point out what it is. And I'll be happy to debate that, too.

I'll offset negative opinions when I feel they're either A) horseshit, or B) misunderstood. The negative opinion that "WoV has sent me here to derail a thread" is horseshit, so I will defend it. The feelings that there is uneven punishment is valid, and I've said nothing to invalidate or otherwise refute that claim; I've only tried to EXPLAIN it. I'm sure if you go back to when I came here, I dunno, around page 80 or so, you'll see days of LarryS raking me over the coals, and a whole lot of me agreeing with his points. And finally, I've got no stake in anything WoV except whatever passes for my legacy there. I'm not close personal friends with anyone, not financially invested or otherwise interested, and to be honest, the heyday for me has long since passed. I don't come here to defend because 1) it needs none, and 2) I don't care enough. I remain here for the characters here, and for the fact that, like right now, there are some things that get my brain percolating in a fashion that I enjoy.

And I am neither unwilling nor unable to confront Mike when there is opportunity to do so or I feel it's prudent. It just happened a few weeks back, though to be fair that was more him confronting me. But I am not unable to speak to the man in disagreement, and I'm unsure of what I said that would make you think that. Real talk, though, I don't do it often, and rarely feel the urge to do so. Like Mission said, if he disagrees with another mod, he usually just swallows it unless he feels it is quite egregious. I'm the same way. I would've liked to handle Nathan myself, and as such, of course don't agree with the way it was handled if for no other reason than it wasn't "my way". And so? Am I to confront every single decision because it's not "my way"? I dunno if that's the right thing to do or if I'm correct that it would be annoying and pompous to the extreme, but either way, that's not how I roll. Egregious, sure, I'll say something. Erroneous, fuck, I've better shit to do.

Sorry, comrade. It just ain't so.