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Fuck, I missed a good chance to tell KJ his charges were Bolsheviks. Goddamn edit time limits fucked up a decent joke ><

 

Who won the rope climbing contest between MANBOY and JACKIE CHAN? My money is on JACKIE

 

LCB="Let's climb better."

 

Jackie blew him away. He was back on the ground well before loser manboy struggled to the top. What a man...boy. The other nerds probably kick sand in his face. I bet even his crackhead "models" from downtown could beat him.

 

Mike climbed the rope just fine, which is better than most of the other WoV posters could do (at least the ones I met at WoVCons).

Heck, I doubt that more than two or three percent of adult males his age could do it as well as he did.

He works at staying fit, which is something we all need to do.

It's disheartening to watch Americans turning increasingly obese and physically weak as time goes by.

 

If that was true, I would at least attempt to defend accusations here that have nothing to do with me. I don't, I account for my own actions and not for those of anyone else or the Forum at-large.

I'm a little concerned that you have access to all of my PM's to Wizard to know that I have never disagreed with him on anything. Just because I don't call someone out publicly doesn't mean I don't disagree with things behind the scenes. It doesn't happen often, but it has happened.

Interesting post, nice of you to post that before giving me the opportunity to answer the accusation privately. Thanks for that.

My agenda was not to be doxxed here. You'll notice that I posted for a little while, did not post for several months, and then came back only after I was DIRECTLY INFORMED I was being doxxed here. If you don't appreciate my presence here, then thank Freddy and BWC.

 

If you're questioning Wizard's physical fitness given his age, the only conclusion I can come to is that you are perpetually drunk/drugged and have lost all concept of reality.

 

I did give you the opportunity to answer the accusation privately. My PM went unanswered for 7 days prior to my posting this opinion.

So is this how it goes down? Mission in PM to Wiz: I strongly disagree with your actions regarding such and such. Wiz to Mission (in PM): too bad!!

That is really not good enough! Both you and Fisk have expressed in no uncertain terms (here) that you feel my suspension/banning was wrong. Just today, Fisk went as far as to categorize it as "dirty". If that is the case, then privately suggesting to Mike that he was wrong and then 'meekly' slithering away when he refuses to see what everyone else sees, is not good enough. If you two really believe what you say here, have the ballz to go on record at WoV. Don't be afraid to 'publicly' tell the emperor that he is naked.....and wrong!

And you know what, I would suggest you should go even further and express your disagreement with Zuga, since Zuga acted as an appeal court in this decision. Zuga specifically told me that after conferring with Mike, he was standing by Mike. Perhaps if Zuga knew that other Mods, strongly disagree with Mike's handling of the situation, he would have been willing to be an objective appeals type, reconsideration process, instead of just rubber stamping the emperor's decision.

Don't just come here and state that me or Larry or someone might have gotten a raw deal. Stand up and be a men...where it counts. I mean what are you saying that your relationship and contributions aren't strong enough that you can voice when something is wrong or "dirty"? Is standing up and saying what most know is true, going to get you fired from you volunteer position? Is that what your worried about?

 

Well it didn't take you long to come here and defend your hero. Good boy! Want a treat? Roll over.

My concept of reality is fine. I was just pointing out that there are some very talented crack whores in Vegas. Your hero lost badly in the rope climbing. If you want to give him a trophy for losing...go right ahead.

Sometimes reality can get blurred. Like when a certain someone writes a Craigslist article saying he masturbates in front of women while driving down the highway...a crime in all states including Pennsylvania. Then says it was fiction after being called on it. Then lnvoking the name of Steven King. Wow!

How convenient that you use doxxing as your reason for posting here. Nobody buys it. Just admit that makes you feel good to be able to say 'fuck' whenever you want without worrying if daddy Wizard is going to wash your mouth out with soap.

Too bad you didn't feel the need to respond to AxelWolf in as timely a manner as you did here. He only posted 7 days ago that he calls BS on the Nathan/WoN nonsense. And he said it directly to you. Let me guess...you sent him a PM to smooth things over hoping it would go away.

One more thing. It's your turn to suspend Nathan when he returns. Make it a good one! Then it' the middle aged female's turn then....

 

I did not read this whole thread so this might have been answered before... but what is Michael doing these days since he sold his websites?

 

see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Shackleford

 

His WOV profile says gambling, chess, juggling, hiking, and license plate collecting. He lists his occupation as gambling writer. I just read his posts about his 6 monthinvestigation of Organic Roulette by Interblock regarding whether they offer a fair game.

Other than that and his juvenile eating competitions, he's supposed to be writing articles for the sites. He is indentured, for lack of a better word, to the new owners for 3 years and that is up in September. He seems to do whatever he wants...whenever he wants.

Are the new owners getting their money's worth? I don't see it but it's not for me to say. They have mentioned that they'd like him to stay on. It could be that they feel they need the name.

 

FISK Damn, whacked again as Whitejack on WOV LOL Seriously message me here. The story with no happy ending is now death by a 1,000 cuts.

 

Can't, Buzz. Think it's like 300 posts or so for PM privileges, and I won't hit that for another year.

There's always DT.

 

I also said that any judgement I've made on the situation was created after having all of the facts, a time that was some two months removed from your suspension. Every single bit of it, save what little was posted at WoV publicly, was unknown to me. As such, I have no regrets in how I handled it, and would handle the next issue 100% exactly as I did this. You may feel free to condemn me for not being omnipotent, but my own personal masochism doesn't stretch that far.

The rest I've already gone over, and unless you've been keeping quiet or otherwise left me unaware, the bare minimum effort I've asked for is something you have yet failed to do. I'll say again; whatever my opinion on the situation means nothing due to your making it personal between you and Wiz. It is that fact and that fact alone which has prevented me from action. Without that incident, there is no limit to how far I'd take it, and no line I would not cross to pressure for your reinstatement, up to and including my own forum suicide. But your making it personal with Michael himself has placed you outside my scope of influence.

Go'head and try me, KJ. Test my manhood, give my integrity a good once over. You have no problem impugning my name, so why not put my name to the test and show everyone here what a fucking fraud I am. Approach Mike like a man so I can see how it's done. Create a dialog and invite me in, and see if I'll do every bit of what I said I would (assuming, of course, ALL of the info has been presented and there's no more omissions.) And you have my permission, not that you need it, to reveal every bit of it to whichever person or people you'd like. Put the whole fucking thing here on GF for all I care.

There's nothing for you to lose. You can't lose the forum; you're already out. You can't lose friends; judging by your charges against me, it doesn't seem you give a shit about that, either. Seems to me you could either A) get your forum back, or B) expose the teflon mod as the fraud he is, all with not a single downside to you whatsoever.

What are you waiting for?

 

kEWLJ, I recently did you a favor. Not asking for a favor in return, but just advice. " I always kill my own rats" And no need to let the rat know I did it. I know, that's all that matters. Not even Mike knows how I fucked STATMAN. If your problem is Mike,they both have 4 letters in their names, but FISK IS NOT MIKE

 

@freddy Thank you for the info.
It is a shame that Wizzard's brilliant website was bought by investors who do not relate to his old site at all. It is obvious that they do not have a casino background. Without him there is no way they will be able to keep up the level of quality to properly maintain the site.

No kidding. 300 PM's to be able to send a PM is unheard of. I doubt more than a dozen members will achieve this level at all within the next year or so.

 

Buzz, please remember who you are talking to.....I am not the brightest bulb in the pack. Is this post in some kind of code, cause it is over my head.

 

Say what now? Create a dialog with Mike and invite you in? How pray tell do I do that. I tried numerous times to create a dialog with Mike and he shut down each and every avenue that I created. I even signed up at DT, just to have an avenue to communicate with him and he banned my account without me ever posting.

My only avenue to communicate with Mike is to mail correspondence to his house, which I have done twice now. Continuing to do this with him not responding would cross over to 'creepy territory'. Other than that my only other option is to walk up and knock on his front door. (I actually live within walking distance). That would be even creepier.

So tell me how I create this dialog, because I am out of ideas.

 

Well first, you have my apologies, as I did not and could not have known you've gone that far with no result. You have my respect, for what that's worth.

But that still leaves us where we were, and I am at a loss of what you expect from me. EVERYONE spoke up for you back then. Not just the APs, not just the boys club, it seemed people were coming out of the woodwork with not one comment being even close to indifferent or opposed to your staying. Their wishes made no difference. YOU, you are the key to it. It appears your wishes made no difference.

Do you think I've that much influence? I don't. Other than Babs, who I speak with about random, personal, non-mod stuff often, you and I have spoken more here than I've spoken to Wiz, Mission, and Zuga combined. I'm closer to LarryS than I am to Wiz, ferchrissakes. Perhaps my relationship / influence over the members have given me an air of power, but I'm not tight with Wiz like that. I find it hard to recall a time we've ever even spoken at length, save the one time I met him in person and we discussed the old Ralph and Sam cartoons. I'm not his confidant, or right hand, or someone he goes to for advice. I'm just a dude who tossed his name in his hat (Yes, I am, I think, the one mod who wasn't asked but who did the asking for mod status)

As I said in my last post, this is still on my mind. It really was within the last week where I went all over this again, trying to find a crack I could pry open and enter. It's that personal element. I don't know how to break through that, and I don't know what you expect of me regarding it.