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Roulette What if I told you...

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. Armitage Shanks

    Armitage Shanks Active Member

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    He's right - The max amount of numbers that I bet (the above session) was 4 - the least was 1 - the average amount of numbers bet per spin was 1.93
    When you get into playing a long list of numbers - welcome to the nightmare. Your wins (even with a aggressive progression) aren't going to cover the losses.

    Could we narrow down the pattern field within the table to do this?
     
  2. Toofanexpress

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    Sounds like an interesting way to play. Do you record these numbers in paper as you play?
     
  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    If you're asking me - then yes. For now. Until I can do it without paper, which should be soon. Most people could do it without paper.
     
  4. mr j

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    I'm all about NO MISTAKES. Even if I could play it without paper, I would still use it.

    Ken
     
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  5. Fossell

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    3 levels progression presume. Im at 90% all the time TG. And just when I think I see your selection/progression, something doesn't quite add up!
     
  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It was actually a 6 step one that time (yes, you can change it up as long as you use steps that are aggressive (I've been using that term a lot now lol). The drop near the end was simply because instead of usual - I had two numbers with high values on them (and I don't like to - or usually don't do that) but it worked out. The problem with that is that neither of them could have shown up for a while and I didn't really want to go to a 7th step (although I would have). A session can be short and sweet or drag out for a few more spins than I like to play, but it will always pull out like the chart shows.
     
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  7. Fossell

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    Got you, thanks. So some room for instinct along the way. On average whats your usual cycle count? Ever really go beyond 3-4?
    Maybe theres an opportunity here to coin a new phrase other than aggressive prog! ;-)
     

  8. System Gambler

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    If have simulated my version of playing hot numbers with a positive progression. I don't know how TG selects his numbers exactly, so this does not say anything about his game.
    I just want to show that systems played on straight up numbers can go well for a long time, if you are lucky.

    The graph shows profit in units.
    5000 spins for 30000 units profit (for 5$ min this is 150.000$)
    Wager range 1 to 200 units per number
     
  9. Tyytty

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    Actually it´s all about doubling or losing your bankroll. If you can double it more often than lose it, you have a winning system. In roulette, forex etc the main thing is choosing proper bet size and money management, since with every SINGLE spin outcome is negative.
     
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    This is an essential element of every winning strategy, unfortunately most people overlook the importance of the balance between risk and reward.

    Another ''cornerstone'' is the timing concept, in other words to know when to begin and finish a session, every session is not the same, results change, therefore we cannot establish a fixed amount of spins to be played and/or a fixed amount of units to be won/lost.

    The question ''when?'' is being answered in different manner every time by the ever changing results, by adapting a flexible strategy can help you extend profit and avoid losses, all these elements contribute to a significant positive total.
     
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  11. SERGIO

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    Hola, muy buenas a todos.
    Soy Sergio de Barcelona y llevo un tiempo estudiando e intentando entender todo lo que dice este gran señor turbo genius y quiero decir que cada vez voy más lejos con el entendimiento de lo que se refiere y es sorprendente, me ayudó mucho todo lo que dicen y ese video de los años 60 sobre la física nuclear dice muchas cosas increíbles...
    Quiero agradecer todas las pistas que has dado ya que son muy valiosas para lograr rntender cómo funciona lo aleatorio y también como entender tus progresiones porque son agresivas.
    Eternamente agradecido, un gran saludo y muchas gracias
     
  12. TurboGenius

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    I'm glad if I helped in any way.
     
  13. SERGIO

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    Si usted envió un número de una sesión de 200 bolas, usted es tan amable de hacer su juego? Que lo haría con los repetidores o con cuscualqu grupo números? Cómo usted dice que es indiferente... Pero a mí me parece que es mejor con repetidores no? Le digo porque hay algo que tengo duda e igual podría salir de dudas, usted sería tan amable?
    Gracias, un saludo
     
  14. SERGIO

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    Hola, esta grafica me parece que es tuya y creo que aplicandole una progresion 1-5 queda casi igual.
    Dime si crees que lo hago correctamente.
    Por eso me gustaria hablar contigo porque creo que estoy tan cerca de lo que haces, o igual es esto que ya hago.

    un saludo y gracias por todo
     

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  15. Davemd

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    Turbo can I ask you is there a maximum amount of numbers that you play ?
    Or a maximum amount of numbers for a set amount of spins ?
     
  16. SERGIO

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    Por lo que yo entiendo y veo en mis resultados, suelen ser entre 2-7 números, aunque ellos recomienda 2-5 numeros, pero hay otras opciones de jugar, una de las cosas más importante es el manejo de dinero. Saludos
    Pero: El señor turbo sería tan amable de decirme si la gráfica que puso y tal y como yo la hice es correcta?
    Gracias
     
  17. Joan Will

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    Very interesting discussion. I usually play for fun, but here real sciense)))
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    That progression looks horrible.

    Science? What science?
     
  19. SERGIO

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    Señor Dr. Sir Anyone, porque usted siempre esta en contra de turbo?? ustes sabe realmente lo que hace el señor turbo?' posee alguna forma mejor que la suya para siempre decir que eso no funciona??
    Puedo asegurarle que creo que entendi perfectamente en que se basa lo del señor turbo, he echo muchas pruebas y siempre acaba ganando.
    ME gustaria saber que es lo que hace usted para creer que lo que el hace esta mal, cuando se que esta inmejorable, el unico problema es que hay que tener mucha caja, pero una vez sabes de lo que va lo que dice hay varias formas de aplicarlo y reducir esa gran progresion.
    Pero le repito, me encantaria ver que es lo que hace usted o que diera alguna pista de lo que hace como a echo el señor turbo, porque sino, no tiene sentido que usted siempre este atacando al gran turbo genius.

    Un saludo, espero su respuesta
     
  20. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    ROFLOL!!!

    Turbo's system won't perform any better than random on a random/RNG wheel. I've already proven that it will sputter and fail. Running an up as you lose progression gives the false impression that it works...which it will...until it fails. Negative progressions are mathematically senseless because they require the player to risk an absurd amount of the bankroll, often times to win just one unit. This means the starting bets must be very small and the amount of money that can be won is trivial in the short term. In the long term they will of course fail.

    Real methods that work, such as wheel bias and VB are the only way to get the edge in the long term. Running a positive progression is also vastly superior.
     

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