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Roulette Scams Another big proof Steve from RF is a big scam

Discussion in 'Roulette Scams' started by Bago, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    On his review website, I just noticed Steve placed in second position, between his computers scam website and his custom variant patterns software, a total scam where you play 1 number and you win, also on RNG! lol, and he spends all his time on his forum explaining to suckers that only systems based on physics can change the odds. NICE CONTRADICTION FROM A REAL CROOK!. EXPOSED!!!

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  2. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    I bet he will say it is not his website, but you can check at the bottom left the same promotional box which appears on his forum also.
    This idiot crook just acknowledges that playing your birthday number is as effective as his custom variant system and not far from his computers which are supposed to achieve a 1 in 12 hit rate lol!.

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  3. mr j

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    I do know this as a fact......he knocks ALL methods as being shit because he does NOT want comp SALES to drop.

    Meaning, if XYZ method worked pretty damn good, you won't need him.

    Ken
     
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    You know if you take the tiny effort and add just 4 little letters to the end of comp, it becomes computer.

    ..Go figure.
     
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  5. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Only a fuckin faggot such as yourself Bombus looks at 4 letters short and turns it into an argument. (rofl)

    Once a piece of a shit, always a piece of shit.

    Ken
     
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  6. Bago

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    If he decided to promote a martingale that is supposed to beat any RNG, it means he is not making any more sales with his phone and his custom variants system. You have to be very desperate for money to sink that low into scamming. I hope it is clear for everybody now that he is a big crook.

    roulettenumber.com is a scam
     
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  7. Bombus

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    Let's face it. We're all crooks living on borrowed time.

    So be at peace if you can.
     
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  8. RouletteGhost

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    Late 40s. Believe that?!
     
  9. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    Hi CHT,

    When I received his Nokia phone, it was supposed to come with a toe switch. Instead of that I received a joystick full of sealing tape with a big blue square button. It was amateurly made, so I was quite shocked at first. I told him it could not be used as a toe switch and he repeatedly answered it could, of course not. After that I read all the instruction ebook, I entered manually the deceleration datas and started to test it with the DVDs of his John Huxley Wheel. I could not get accurate predictions, it was near to random.

    At around the same period, a competitor called Forester succeed to have his Nokia Phone. I informed Stefano and told me he was lying, that it was impossible he got it, and sadly Forester was telling the truth because he explained that you have to unlock Stefano's phone with a tic tac toe game to enter the roulette software, which was completely accurate, so he really got his phone and tested it.(proof that at the time I found it was complete rubbish, another scammed purchaser found the same since he sent the phone to Forester). Also his phone has been for sell on Ebay by another purchaser, FYI.

    Forester (from rouletteplace.com) informed me that it didn't have a chance to work because it could not get the same prediction on a repeated spin. He informed Stefano of this problem and Steve answered to him: "Why on earth would you test on a repeated spin? You can't do that in the Casino". I swear on all my family that it was Stefano's answer, so it is the proof that at the time I got his phone I think it was around 2006, it was a complete 4000$ shit and that Stefano was not the physic genius he claimed to be (1 million dollar technology, car motors running on orgone..)

    I didn't do this test, I just tested the phone against all different spins on the DVDs. And when I did the test Forester suggested, I got really different predictions from all over the wheel, so how could I be successfull in the Casino? (And yes I did tests in my local Casino and the pitboss knew it since I had always my hand in the same pocket during hours, but as long as you are not winning any money, he won't prosecute you). At the same time Forester's device COULD get the same prediction if you repeated a spin and it was 10 times cheaper. Forester's device could give a prediction several times during the spin also, assuring you that it is accurate.

    So of course after this, Stefano must have fixed his software and made ameliorations, but as you can see in the Skype Demo, he was getting less random predictions but against some spins he could not get the same prediction in the confort of his own home.

    Everybody must understand that he is only a seller who is spending all his free time on his scams promotion, that's why he purchased a lot of roulette forums to catch fishes. He would not spend all his time to defend himself if he was not a scammer, instead he would collect the money from his supposed 1000+ players team around the world using his custom variant software system or his phone.

    Also do not listen to him when he asks you to test his phone against his wheel, it is NOT the same conditions AT ALL. He is using an heavy ball that is far more predictable than what you will find in your Casinos. The air-pressure change, the tilt of the wheel changing due to people pushing/moving the betting table, the time left to bet etc... That's why you will never see him obtaining an edge in the real Casino environnement, he can't and that's why he sells and does not play.

    The same for his 2500$ custom variants software that is supposed to beat live dealer wheels, he never showed any proof, except photoshopped screenshots.

    To finish, you should ask him if he is not a scammer how come he is promoting a system based on gambler's fallacy that he explains all day long cannot work? (http://www.roulettenumber.com/)

    That does not sound like someone who does not rely on sells for a living.
     
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    Here the test I did on a video, Stefano's excuse is my computer must have been lagging, but you can time my wheel and ball clickings and realize they are very accurate, I was using the same reference diamond.

     
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  11. Sharptracker

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    From what i can see on the video, it needs a full lap or rotor first and then a revolution of the ball. Before you start it needs also rotations of the ball during a spin to "get the deceleration" to situate you in the future spins when you'll clock a rotation.

    Even on a strong tilt wheel, i don't know if a player could sucess long term with this, it will make as much mistakes in the right rotation as the player does without this device.

    2500 is really too expensive for this poor way to play.
     
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  12. Bago

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    It was not 2500$, it was 5000$ and he made me a discount at 4000$, and he could, appart from working as an alarm clock, it is of no other use.

    His dealer signature system was 2000$, that he later called "custom variant software" after it has been been circulating for free on every roulette forums.
    Here is the proof it works, please don't laugh and if someone can direct me to a Casino who has this type of predictable ball scatter, I would fly right away even if it is located at 10 000km from where I live.
     
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  13. Sharptracker

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    I hope he just made a narration over the video than pass his all day to record sequences o_O

    More it's expensive more people will believe in it, but nobody would lose his time to make video and try to convince people to buy his stuff while he can make money with it everywhere in the world. It is not today that he will shear me!
     
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    lol, no need to record several sequences, when a simple chart "where the ball last landed, where the ball lands next" shows a high peak with this ball/wheel combination, you are guaranteed to win in a first attempt.
     

  15. Sharptracker

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    Anyway from the moment he decides to "sell" rather than play it's because he understood that he will lose at the casino.

    By the way, when a player does VB well he becomes much more sceptical about DS for good reasons i think. I remember i did test on RNG and then convert the list of number into distances. I had same kind of pattern, concentration than when i was thinking observing DS...
    But i didn't do any simulation like for example Pelayos and build a top chart to observe if ball/wheel combination was upper than top of RNG. Anybody did?
     
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  16. Bago

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    You would get a random chart on a level wheel with a modern ball (light and bouncy), that's what happened to all genuinewinner system purchasers that's why it has been openly revealed as a joke system since 2004.
     
  17. SteveH

    SteveH Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    The admin here doesn't allow links to my websites that refute nonsense about me (he's biased). So I wrote more detail on this site here: Steve Hourmouzis

    If you're only interested in whether or not my technology works: Take options like my free trials, and test on any wheel you want. It's very easy to know the truth about what counts. See my website for a list of easy ways to see my technology works. The people attacking me don't mention these options. Also understand some people who attack me are incredibly uneducated, and may actually believe some of what they say. Yet they get even basic things wrong like misunderstanding information on my websites. There are even cases where people have impersonated me to deliberately make false statements. So there's an incredible amount of misinformation published.

    If you're interested irrelevant nonsense and personal attacks: You'll need to read my entire website which address the dishonest attacks against me to fully understand the situation. The truth is beneath an elaborate web of manipulative nonsense. So you could waste days verifying everything, and still not know the truth about what matters. You're better off taking options like testing my technology for yourself on any wheel you want.​

    My websites aren't hard to find. Google "[removed]" or "[removed]". But [removed] to find detailed responses to the rubbish allegations against me.
     
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  18. Shail

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    U are a scammer..Shut up
     
  19. VENERE98

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    [QUOTE = "Bago, post: 47376, member: 2865"] Non era 2500 $, era 5000 $ e mi ha fatto uno sconto di 4000 $, e poteva, a parte lavorare come sveglia, è di nessun altro uso.

    Il suo sistema di firma del dealer era di 2000 $, che in seguito chiamò "software variante personalizzata" dopo che era circolato gratuitamente su tutti i forum di roulette.
    Ecco la prova che funziona, per favore non ridere e se qualcuno può indirizzarmi a un casinò che ha questo tipo di dispersione delle palline prevedibile, volerei subito anche se si trova a 10.000 km da dove vivo.
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    Susami per quale motivo lo hai comprato???? la regola dice chi vende non ha nulla in mano di vincente, al contrario chi vince realmente puo' solo donare gratuitamente e dare un aiuto concreto a chi ne ha bisogno, comunque hai ragione, io ero iscritta sul forum del tipo che hai detto, ho dato gratuitamente delle metedologie, e non scemenze, ma metedologie che vincono ogni giorno, ho detto di fare prove e di dirmi se non era come ho descritto, ho regalato un programma per fare ed attuare la metedologia, gratis , per ringraziamento sono stata attaccata, quindi??? ho capito che chi vuole aiutare realmente viene screditato/screditata ho dimostrato di vincere spiegando cio' che faccio, perche' sanno che ho ragione, adirittura steve, mi ha bloccato di postare, perche' sicuramente quando ho scritto che in altri forum si parlava di lui che truffava, ha avuto paura che si svelasse la verita' ed inoltre prendendomi per utente troll ahaha, quante menzogne , hai pienamente ragione, ma io al posto tuo avrei fatto denuncia non per truffa semplice, ma per truffa aggravata, in quanto non e' una sola persona che ti ha venduto il programma ma bensi, molteplici persone che fanno capo ad un associazione, la polizia deve procedere di ufficio, perche trattasi, di truffa aggravata e continuata, ed associazione a delinquere,
     
  20. Nathan Detroit

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    Known forum troll. Using several proxies as reported at RF.** .
     
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