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Baccarat Finally figured out something that keeps working!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jae, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    lol, You just seem like an overall mad person. Who do you like on the boards? Not respect, but ENJOY their posts?

    Ken
     
  2. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Almost all of you are really dysfunctional and I mean that sincerely without joking like some of you attempt, but the majority of you are medically dysfunctional.
     
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    Ken, not that I really care or that it really matters in the great scheme of things, but a long time ago ND hopped into your corner and for no reason other than that started to insult me around the forums. For a while I covered up and let him pummel me, but now that he's tired, I enjoy the counter punching.
    :)
     
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    That's a very long list so probably best if I answer in the negative.

    I don't like you, CEH, ND, wendel, esoito, nottophammer (a little bit), dyksexlic, viper, and bago (another one who jumped in your corner for some reason?)
     
  5. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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  6. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    Take you for example......I dont like you but I do listen to any roulette advice you may have. I might not agree but I'm all ears. Roulette EXPERIENCE is more important to me vs. an ego trip.

    Ken
     
  7. gizmotron

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    From a knowledge point of view opinion regarding randomness everyone here should know what Ken has accomplished in his method of playing. I cut my teeth on understanding randomness in Roulette on trying to flat bet 3 hot numbers at a time. Now I took my eyes off of it because it took around 300 spins to see if I did well, broke even, or lost a little. I wasn't getting anywhere. That's when I started putting more focus on patterns of groupings of numbers. It was a perfect long lasting pattern that moved me over to Even Chances and Double Dozen group sizes. It was the perfect and almost perfect pattern that moved me along. My point is that I gave up on the 3 hottest numbers.

    Well Ken discovered a new idea. This often happens once you get exhausted with systems that don't work, with progressions that are too destructive. He went after the hot numbers and figured out a new concept for flat betting or even soft progressions. I could never see how best to give up on a hottest number or to lay off of one for a while without the whole activity being tedious. I looked at moving to new hot numbers and considered progressions too. But I never figured out a good method to switch to a new number and why to do that. Ken did figure that out. He noticed that new hot numbers become short lived, white hot numbers. I saw that too, but I didn't see anything but trying to get the 3 hottest numbers that in the end would be the best in 300 spins. Ken noticed that these short lived explosions were the better targets. And he has worked on a way to get on them and put them in the cross-hairs. That's the original idea. What's more he has shared the basics of its existence. If you know the duration that tends to be typical for explosive hot numbers versus basic long lived hot numbers then you can figure out a method for jumping. In that alone you can put odds on your side. There are odds for characteristics of randomness when randomness is taking its dress down and asking you for a bang. People really need to figure out how to get a bang out of Roulette and to not be fucked by it.
     

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    Say me, say me, please say me! Hahahahahah!
     
  9. gizmotron

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    Me! ha ha etc...
     
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    ......and I guess we can have two different issues at hand. There might be a poster(s) that you dislike or even HATE, but are you a closet supporter? Meaning, the guy (or lady) probably knows what he is talking about but he is vile as hell. These are TWO different categories.

    Ken
     
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    and this is why I am so tough on the newer members. I am tired of seeing how they think they can slide right into the spot of the other experienced players. They cannot and it must be EARNED over many years. When I bring this topic up, it really pisses people off. Do you know who the two most pissed off members just so happen to be (no lie)? MickyP and RouletteGhost.

    They (cough) go through the roof when I bring this up (lol).

    Ken
     
  12. JacobBlaze

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    thank you for sharing..

    so you started with 30 units 10 at $300 using oscars grind and when you had enought o raise to 30 units u increae your bet..so if you had 600 u had 20 unit bets right?

    using oscars grind 30 unit max loss per shoe or 5 unit max loss per shoe?

    i have been messing with random at a flat bet and someime i can win 5-10 in a row,,,using random.org numbers at live casino or online...
    but mostly end up wit alittle loss or even at the end of the show betting every hand etc...

    i think what your teiger is is you take history from another shoe and once you get fiev in a row that match from shoe to shoe you start betting using the same result from other shoe hoping it will not run out the same and u bet with oscars grind tryibg to get one unit per shoe/////

    hope i am close.. i will message you you some other rnadom thoughts i have/// thaks




     
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    Jae, I wish you much good fortune in your endeavor. I have found that there is usually a disaster sequence which shows up eventually in betting. Your goals are short term (20 days?) so maybe you will never see it. I look forward to your august 1st posting, good or bad. Thanks.
     
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  14. John Blerg

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    I sat down and solved your question this morning, all five of those first posts before yours are from that guy Glen I solved it case closed!
     

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  16. Robert Ryu

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    I'm a programmer.
    So I programmed baccarat and simulation about billions times.
    But I can't find any relations between 2 decks.

    I think you are just lucky.
    Of course I have curious about yours holy grail method.
    If you tell me more specifically,
    I can simulation more clearly and let you know the result. like this,

    Baccarat (6 Decks)
    Total Shoes 10000
    P(Win) 0.4993795983092123
    P(Lose) 0.5006204016907877
    bet/shoe 19.4229
    P(Player) 0.49354922684437963
    P(Banker) 0.505081776890645
    T(Win) 96994
    T(Lose) 97235
    T(Profit) -3075.0
    Profit/total -0.01583182737902167
    Max Streak w 15
    Max Streak L -13
    Max Bet 1
    Max Profit 26.5
    Max Lost -13
     
  17. LUIS1968

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    yself, then something occurs to me about the randomness video I watched.

    We often treat baccarat hands like a coin flip. We all know a coin flip is 50/50,and aside from banker having a slight advantage, it really comes down to the decision being 50/50 as well. Cards have no memory.

    Going back to the wall of squares from the video, I believe the wall was made up of 100 two-sided/colored squares.

    When the fan would blow, all the squares would spin and then settle down to one of their respective colors. The end result isn’t going to have an outcome of 50 squares of one color and 50of the other color.

    Lamenting over this gave me a new perspective on something that helped me understand why my trigger is beating randomness.

    I’m trying to make more sense on a few things. I want to create a statistical correlation of the baker and player results from previous shoes, how they affect the trigger points in the next shoes where my trigger points are.

    I want my type of advantage play to be recognized as true advantage play without the mention of fallacy. When I give out my trigger, I want to be able to fully explain why it works so that we can all use this information to possibly exploit more triggers in the game.

    This is where YOU, the non-cynical player come in. If you can figure out my trigger based off the information that I’ve given, I will reward you with a $3,000 bankroll and would also be willing to fly you out to my local casinos in Missouri to meet up and play for a few days. If you come up with something better... I urge you to goo make some money and have fun.

    I’ll post my exact strategy on August 1st.

    Cheers![/QUOTE]
     
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    Expect for post, today is august 2nd:)
     
  19. John Blerg

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    River City. Bac room, Asian noodle shop and other pretty good eating also.
     
  20. eugene

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    I am looking forward to reading about your method Luis1968....

    One thing I have learned over the last 6 months is that Bac behaves differently to the EC's in roulette.
    I tested 200,000 shoes and put my theory to the test in real live play. So far, so good and it's possible to win most shoes with very close to flat betting. I average around 25-30 bets a shoe in the 6 decks. Perhaps we should get some kind of Baccarat group/blog going to offer encouragement and post up trip reports or something. The Baccarat scene is fairly quiet at the moment on the net.
     

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