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Baccarat 1K to 30K Challange 2019

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Sputnik, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The challenge is to convert 1K to 30K during one year of gambling with one method only.
    Rules you have to post what method you use and any one should be able to play it based upon instructions.

    I will use Ching A Ling Method

    Any takers?
     
  2. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Repeaters system that i posted :)
     
  3. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sharptracker do you talk about the classical system topic with the repeater system that made several thousand during testing?
    Not sure if that qualify as a method, because of Ching A Ling Method won 30K with real money, not testing.

    Should also mention that I will maybe not reach my win goal, but 15K is also okay.

    Cheers
     
  4. jbs

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    If your stupid systems worked, you'd be able to turn that $1000 in to millions. But none of you can't and will end up broke!
     
  5. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Sputnik Is it using a progression? Can you tell more or it is a big secret?

    @jbs Yes yes we know everything about that, but here as you can see, it is about 1 year... and one year is a drop in the ocean where everything stays possible... actually it would be better to talk about spin played.
     
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  6. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sharptracker the topic is 76 pages with several thousands of views.
    The author of the topic made 30K and bust and end up with 25K and continue to play.
    Several members succeed in winning with the method and one member just disappear from forum boards after being part of that topic making a serious amount of money, at least that is what I assume.

    I also win using Ching A Ling Method with my own selection method.
    It would take me forever to make a summary of the whole topic.

    But I save it as PDF, I do that with all topics that have something of value, based upon my knowledge and opinion.
    You find the topic at rouletteforum dot com, the forum is locked for some unknown reason.
    During my many years at gambling forums, I have seen many disappear.

    Cheers
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sharptracker,


    Google Ching A Ling roulette system .



    ND
     

  8. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys, i have seen what that is about...

    If the topic is large i guess they must have checked yet if it was better to play only your trigger when there was no repetition of a combination or the less possible...

    Anyway, i have always have this feeling especially when i bet on EC that i got only 1/2+0 everytime i bet and whatever i do.
     
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  9. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sharptracker, now when you read it, is more easy to talk about it.
    I can win around 40 attacks in a row before I bust one level.
    And then I have three recovery levels, feels like I will never lose.

    So to speed up things I was thinking to use only three levels.

    a) 1 1 2 2 4 4
    b) 2 2 4 4 8 8
    c) 4 4 8 8 16 16

    That is 98 units for three levels and winning goal for each session is 4 units.
    The sum is winning 25 sessions to win 100 units.

    Then move up to the next stage.

    a) 2 2 4 4 8 8
    b) 4 4 8 8 16 16
    c) 8 8 16 16 32 32

    That is 196 units for three levels and winning goal for each session is 8 units.
    That sum is winning 25 sessions to win 200 units.

    After that ...

    a) 4 4 8 8 16 16
    b) 8 8 16 16 32 32
    c) 16 16 32 32 64 64

    Next, reach table limits ...

    a) 6 6 12 12 24 24
    b) 12 12 24 24 48 48
    c) 24 24 48 48 96 96

    So the money increase from 100 to 200 to 400 to 600
    Now I have not made up my mind how to split the bankroll for this challenge.

    10$ units would give me 1000$ or 1K winning the first level once, but then I risk it all at once.
    But if I made four stages I would be up to 6K, but I am not greedy even if this is a challenge.
    5$ units I would win 500$ and have two times to fail.
    The last option would be 1$ and increase to 2$ and after that 3$ and so on, but that would take forever.

    Last option would be to regress and push for more, both at the same time.
    Have not made up my mind yet.

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  10. John Blerg

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    Turn all those f****** Ws into Ls and that's more reality!!!!

    you guys are so far in the f****** fallacy land it's not even funny!!!!!!
     
  11. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    @Sputnik

    Hi, check in my classic topic... the first data from Wiesbaden... i've been busted at the second attack :O
     
  12. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Ok man, next time i 'll try to watch you playing and bet against you while you're betting against an asian... yeah yeah
     
  13. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    That's only one of the seven within my method it's a little bit more detail. Think what you want
     
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  14. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    I must have forgotten to follow you only if you wear a blue shirt.
     

  15. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sharptracker the reason I mention your classical system is that Snowman the famous bias player and legend show a similar method based upon same conclusions. Those things don't pass me unknown, I save such topics as PDF into my AP or System library.

    Credits go to Snowman:

    Some roulette facts..
    Here's the real deal on past spins influencing future spins. The following information is based on a REAL
    ROULETTE WHEEL WITH A LIVE DEALER. On these wheels the rotor did NOT alternate spin
    direction- (every other spin like they do in EU).
    The following information does NOT pertain to an RNG based wheel or the random game of roulette. In
    other words, no electronic machines.

    I can tell you the facts, based on my experience, as they pertain to a real wheel. Here they are, like them
    or not.

    1. If a number has hit within the last five spins, it really is slightly more likely to hit on the next spin.

    2. Simply playing the last five numbers to have hit will slightly reduce the house edge, especially when
    the wheel speed is close to the speed of the previous spin. In rare cases, you can get a small edge on some
    wheels playing this way.

    3. The dealer's pick up and release of the ball is not random, like someone on this board had stated. As a
    matter of fact, it will quickly spike out beyond five standard deviations in a short period of time for most
    dealers, if you take the time to measure it.

    I feel that I have provided a satisfactory amount of information given the circumstances.
    Here's a small example below.

    30000 trials. (This is just one wheel. Each wheel and sample varies some. Overall, the effect is real.)
    (Wheel make is a Huxley Mark Series with moveable fret ring). (Date 2007 to 2009)(Right handed)
    Betting the last seven numbers to have hit.

    Edge reduces to -1.29
    Max loss run 37
    Max DD 4871
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    Betting the last five numbers to have hit.
    Edge reduces to -1.79
    Max loss run 52
    Max DD 4209
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    Betting the last three numbers to have hit.
    Edge .02
    Max loss run 85
    Max DD 1555
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    Betting the last number only.
    Edge 5.17
    Max loss run 85
    Max DD 1555

    I have explained why it can and does happen and I have provided enough information for you to make an
    informed decision on your own. If you feel that you need further prove, then perhaps you should go out
    and collect some spins on your own and test them.

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    In most cases, you can't get an edge. All you can do is reduce the house edge. When some other effects
    come together, you can get a small edge.

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    Laurance Scott Reply to this topic:

    I agree with everything Keyser has said, except one thing:

    Even in the situation he describes, past spins don't "influence" future spins. It's just that the same physical
    system that produced those past spins will tend to produce future spins in the same manner. Because of
    the short term nature of biases, this tends to manifest best within the first few spins. I have about 150,000
    real roulette spins and in all but a handfull of cases, the house edge is reduced just by betting the past 5
    spins. In a few cases, a true edge is realized.

    However, there are two things Keyser isn't telling you:

    1) It only works (or, has the potential to work) on wheels with a Chi-Square above 55, and

    2) Trying to exploit the bias (i.e. playing) will negate the effect should you start to win. In fact, should
    you start to win and draw attention just betting the past 5 numbers, you will - in all probability - now be
    playing into a significant negative edge.
    Roulette's a bitch. To truly beat the game, it helps to be left handed, have OCD, and have masochistic
    tendancies.

    One man's experience.

    - - -

    Cheers
     
  16. BETJACK

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    What is Ching A Ling Method ?

    The forum is GONE ... :(

    where to read about it ?!

    :(
     
  17. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Betjack...

    you write the 8 possibilities for an even chance in 3 spin, for example Black and red:

    BBB
    BBR
    BRB
    RBB
    RRR
    RRB
    RBR
    BRR

    For example now you see 4/2/33, it is BBB so you mark a cross in front BBB and you continue to track then next 3 spins and so on... When the last combination that hasn't showed up yet left, you bet against this combination with a progression 2/4/8.

    For example if the last combination is BRB, then the first spin you bet 2 unit on R, if you failed 4 units on B, then if you failed again you bet 8 units on R (the exact opposite of BRB)

    You should wait for a confirmation before betting all you salary because i read quickly... ;)
     
  18. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sharptracker that is not Ching A Ling Method.
    You talk about Pattern Breaker.

    BETJACK i save it as PDF and will upload it for you to read.

    Cheers
     
  19. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully Betjack hasn't bet all his salary then! :)

    That s what i had yesterday when i typed ching a ling bacarat.
     
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