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Craps This method?

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by Alan Yasutovich, Jun 6, 2015.

  1. Alan Yasutovich

    Alan Yasutovich Member

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    I found this method and it seems like a good hedge method
    where you can make money.

    Can someone out there at a higher pay grade than me look
    and tell me? It looks doable.

    Thanks
     
  2. Pressit

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    It's doable, the dealers will hate you, this method requires your full attention all the time as you are constantly making bets all the time, and like the guy said best not used on a full table. I used it on WinCraps just see how the betting would work under various rolls. Starting with a $1k bank roll I took it up to $20k, but on another examination I lost $800 of that $1k bankroll. Hitting your DC number or the 7 at different times can prove very painful especially in the early stages of the game. I would have preferred to see this demonstration first dig themselves into hole and fight their way out of it. This guy stayed on the profit side from beginning to end. $300 will not last you long as 2 PSO would eat up $170 of $300. I forget when he tells you to place odd behind the PL, if you place them before the DC number is established then you would lose another $40. If that was the case you have one lost $210 of the $300.
     
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  3. Pressit

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    Now here is a true winner. AMERICAN PHAROAH. First Triple Crown winner since Affirmed in 1979.
     
  4. fish

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    Maybe, but he's no Horseradish King.
     
  5. Pressit

    Pressit Member

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    You got a point there.
     
  6. Alan Yasutovich

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    I have to honestly say that I don't follow the horses, but the other week I picked pharoah
    as the winner (pp 18?). Watched and cheered and gloated. Didn't even know what
    I was doing. But I picked him.
     
  7. Alan Yasutovich

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    I had all of those impressions when I watched the video. I am too old for that kind of harsh
    attention. One of the examples (this video or another one) the guy hit a bad run and came
    back. If you won $20K and lost $1K, then overall, it is pretty powerful.

    It's kind of the feeling that I get. I love the concept.
     

  8. Pressit

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    This may be something to explore with Buble Craps, but I have never end played Bubble Craps, I have been told Bubble Craps only allows you 20 seconds to make place your bets. Having never played Bubble Craps I don't know what bets are allowed, if you can call your bets/odds off or you have to actually taken the down. Taking them down them placing on roll roll, then placing them again all within 20 seconds might might be pushing it. I would like to see what the layout of a Bubble Craps machine before I tried this method.
     
  9. TSC

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    i think i would tweak it a little....
    1) I would look for the longest number not rolled at the point i start the game....say its the 9... lay 120/80 behind the nine/$4 vigorish upfront....
    2) I make his typical 11 bet of $5... and
    3) Instead of $75 DC, I make it $80 DC... this covers my $5 on the Yo. Say DC travels to the 10 in this example since a lot of his DC went to 4/10's
    4) Since your lay is a lost number, maybe keep it up, but reduce to $45/30/$1, so dealer gives you back $47 i believe...
    5) then play out as normal...

    How does this benefit from his original?
    1) Your DC is Protected by what is Obviously the strongest missing number during this sequence...
    2) You now have option to reduce lay of lost number and KEEP from risking a $25 PB on a number that is not rolling.
    3) A PSO and your DC loses 80, but you lost number wins $80, all your lost is your $10 PL bet, plus the Vig $4 on the Lay.

    IMO one can not test this on simulators bc i think they will give you try random and not actual game time experience where numbers do disappear for 40-90 rolls without showing. Why would you want to have $25-100 of your BR on number that hasn't rolled in 50 rolls... its NOT due. But when it returns twice within 6 rolls of each other, id double up on that one and still have a different lost number as well as MY DC bet.

    Maybe some one can test this TSC revision of this guys Method and see how it does. I would require you to chart. If you put rows of 24 across its real easy to find the lost number...

    Im in Cabo and can't test, but when wife watches he movies tonight i will try and use Wizards table on my iPad.

    I did it last night with $1000 buy in and like the guy above, I lost it down to $115 but was up around $500 so total bank was $1500...$500 profit.


    I thought something had to be changed as well.

    the other question i would have is when to advance up to different levels? Does he just do this out of a whim...Oh my bank went from $300 to $750 so switch to $25 PL and bets...

    Maybe i need to watch again and see how he lays it out

    1) $10 PL roll dice
    2) $75 DC/ $5 yo let number travel.
    3) Put max odds on PL say its 3/4/5
    4) Fill in all place bets with $25 chips on other 4 PB numbers...
    5) make a min $10 CB and let it travel and tell dealer DWMO Down with Max Odds...
    6) When bankroll is _____? after a seven out... progress to a $25 PL and $50 PB and $150 DC?
    7) When bankroll is ______? after a seven out... progress bets to $50 PL, $50 CB and $100 PB and $300 DC?
    8) When bankroll is ______? after a seven out... progress bets to $75 -100 PL and CB and $200 PB and a $500 DC?

    is this right? trying to remember without watching 1 hr video again hahaha

    it does seem to have some merit...does seem to have big swings each way... i think the LOST number will help keep one from wasting/losing $ on a number not rolled during a 7 out and offset it with a win possibly on the don't side... when lost number does get picked off...replace with a do side bet matching others...when it hit twice w/in 6 rolls place double on it... if a CB travels to it say its a $25/ with $75 odds, place an additional $25 PB-$50 PB to help offset your lay loss... it will/should come back and BALANCE out by being the dominate number over next 15-20 rolls...

    TSC
     
  10. Pressit

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    TSC

    Nice tweak, but he starts out with a $300 buy in, your tweak would require more $$$. I do like the use of a working lay bet on the come out, but maybe something a little more affordable. Plus his method, even if you were using a $500 buy in, you could lose nearly half of your buyin, now maybe with the use of the lay bet that lose could be off set. Needs some more looking into.
     

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