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Craps The Captain of craps is real

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by SCAN, Jun 2, 2015.

  1. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    thank you

    he and his accomplishments are quite real..........as real and as verifiable as the captains existence and accomplishments.
     
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  2. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    would you believe...white castle
     
  3. TSC

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    The Captain is as fictitious as they come. Great selling point based off results of sales from the book. It Worked Frank, Congrats.

    Now lets tell some TRUTH now. I talked to Howard Rock N Roller, recently. I said let me get this straight. You were with Frank and Dom for just 5 years correct? Yes he replied. Doing 6+ seminars a year throughout the Country? Yes. Also meeting for dinners, pre practice, post debriefing meetings, etc over 5 years. YES he replied. From 2003-2008-9? Yes he replied. And just once, just once did you ever see This Captain talked about in Franks book? I mean you were with them all, played with them all, had dinner with them all. I would think just once he would have been introduced to all you 'Partners' in the Company? Played a session with you all Privately? If not playing a session, then at least dinner on one of the many East Coast tours over those 2000 days with the Company. Just once? Howards response to me.... NEVER.... So heres a guy that worked with them for 2000+ days and NEVER played, broke bread, never introduced behind closed doors, NEVER....NEVER...NEVER...

    Frank can tell you what he wants and you can believe what you want. Based off RESULTS, of these inside people that we know and are alive today, he NEVER Existed. Probably got the idea from The Usual Suspects movie. Keyser Soze. Frank was probably looking a picture of a boat at sea and while exaggerating his roll data and trying to fumble his way thru that, he looks up and sees the Photo of the ship at Sea with the Captain on deck and says, The Captain ripped off a 47 hander and saved the day. He looks to the left and sees a sign warning people, Nothing good happens after Midnight and sees another of a picture of the Wharf and beach in AC, and says we walked up and down the Wharf, bc The Captain liked to walk during breaks, it was Midnight, we decided to go back in and there was the Crew, down to their last measly $50 ea and the dice came to the Captain, and he reeled off a 47 with the first seven, the 7'out and then the story grows from there....Gullible MFK'rs we all are.... Keyser Soze/ The Captain is his name and the story of Fiction will live on from here....

    TSC
     
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  4. Frank Scoblete

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    Howard did become friends with Satch, a member of the Captain's crew.
     
  5. superrick

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    Frank then I ask you how come Howard said he never met the Captain or know of no one that did?
    I was told this years ago by Howard and so were others!
     
  6. Frank Scoblete

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    First, how do you know no one met the Captain? Second, Howard, as I said, was friends with Satch who was a member of the Captain's Crew. Hundreds of people met Satch. Over the years I have written about this.

    Several of our students met the Captain in AC at the tables. In my book I Am a Dice Controller are plenty of people who met him and knew him. I even have quotes from them.
     
  7. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    I agree...similarly .here are some quotes regarding the horseradish king that prove he was real

    " he cured my dog of cancer and I will always be grateful to him".......Joseph Johnson, Moraga Ca

    " He was always nice to me when I took his order at Taco Bell"......Sandy Jessup, Cape May, NJ

    " He really loved to FK".........Angel Delight, The Purple Parrot, Bangkok

    " I loved his hairy eyebrows"............Dennis Michael.......Calcutta

    " Thank you uncle HK for the beanie baby collection"......Sissy Gavone, Princeton NJ

    " You owe me 1.2 million".....The IRS
     
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  8. TSC

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    Not even sure if this Satch Character is for Rizzle. But who cares, bottom line is that i know a few people affiliated with GTC who have become good Parr instructors. One lives here in Vegas. Robert Lay. AKA Frito. Him and Howard, both Great Parr shooters at one time, both Deny Captain is real, both Never seen him, both Played with many members of the Hierarchy. Don't ya think, just once, just one time, these guys get to play with The King, The Captain Himself. Don't ya think The Captain would trust Frank and Dom and SharpShooter, to keep it Private among the base Team. I mean after all, some of these guys would of made him lots of money with their long rolls. But NOPE...not one iota of evidence supporting he is real amongst guys we would trust today, if they told us, Yep VDC, I played 3-4 sessions with the Captain, along with Howard, Dom, Frank, etc. As far as keeping private bc of the IRS, Pleeeeeaaaaasssssseeeee...we all know if we were to were to win 100k on a table, Yes we must report the earnings, but it is really easy to be able to write off losses to the extent of the winnings. In the gaming world, its really our word vs theirs.


    I would Love to Handpick 4-5 of my friends to Challenge GTC greatest PARR shooters in a competition. Its get old hearing how great these guys are/were... Most of the rolls are lies, blown out of proportion, bc a lot of these same PARR guys I've seen today, struggle just to get a 20-30 roll on a consistent basis. Ill take Myself, SR, Harley, Koi, Snake and Little Joe, vs any Six Frank wants to put together. He can grab, Himself, Dom and 4 other horseman of his liking from his GTC school or take the ones that flew the coup, Like Beau, Heavy and Howard. Getting everyone to agree would be hard. Winners get bragging rights, Losers have to stay off the all Craps boards for 3 years or something like that. Each shooter gets 3 hands each.

    maybe this would put an end to a lot of this madness....
     
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  9. Tabletop

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    That meeting & Rivalry would be VERY interesting. However, MONEY wagered, bet, Or whatever you'd like to call it would be a better Driving Force than Loser stay off the Boards for three years. My money (horse in the race) will definitely be on Superrick's team. Got to put my money on superrick(the experimenter). Every time I talk to Superrick, he's working on a New shot. Gotta like someone that is constantly coming up with new Tosses. ESPECIALLY when it's totally different from what the Guru's teach!! Put me down for $1,000 Please!!!
     
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  10. Tabletop

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    So......... Howard is NOT the God-like shooter that everyone seems to Cherish!!! IMAGINE THAT!!! Of course we all have our bad days, but it seems that every time I used to read the Trip Reports on Heavy's Board..... Howard was "Living the Good Life" CONSISTENTLY having stellar rolls & taking Money off of the Tables. You mean to tell me that Howard has gone from a Super Star shooter to a "Bunter"? How could that possibly Be? Nothing Personal against howard, because I've heard that he's a very Personable guy, but from The Babe Ruth of craps to a $%^%$ing Bunter? PLEASE say it aint so!!! Thought I was the Babe Ruth of craps Until Superrick slugged me upside the head one day & said: Tabletop, have you lost your friggin mind? Do you REALLY think "On Axis" shooting Works? Well, being the "Die Hard" that I am, Superrick's statement just about "Floored" me! Having Possession of a 14ft table for over 6 years, & NEVER questioned the authenticity of "On axis" Shooting. HOW DUMB COULD I POSSIBLY BE? So....... I conducted my own home experiments on my 14 footer, & Guess what? Superrick didn't lie. LOL. So now, after six LONG years of shooting my dick in the dirt, I've had to Re-Vamp my whole approach to Craps, & Dice Influencing. Aint that a Bitch? Then, along comes Harley(Thank God) to educate the General public about the shenanigans that SOME(I Did NOT say all) of the Casinos are up to. A REAL eye opening experience dealing with SR & Harley. So...... Now when I visit the casinos, I'm usually out of the door in less than an hour, & like Frank Scoblete, I'm always tossing with one foot pointed towards the exit sign. Does That Guarantee a Victory? Hell no, but it keeps me Cognizant to what I'm up against when trying to influence the Dice, & beat the casinos. Continued success at the tables, everyone!!!
     
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  11. DeMango

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    Waiting for Scan's replies.......crickets..........
     
  12. Frank Scoblete

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    I seem to be reading evidences of some old conflicts: I am reading by and about Harley, Superrrick versus Heavy and Mad Professor; Howard and DeMango and Tabletop and TSC and PARR shooters and Larry S and others. So what are the sides in this?

    I know Howard's and Heavy's real names; I don't know the real names of any of these others. I don't know if these "others" are even real people or just make-believe creations (the same way, come to think of it, that they believe the Captain may just be a creation of mine, despite all the evidence I have presented in my latest book about the people who knew him).

    I know someone posted that advantage-players don't want their true names revealed. I understand that. But these craps-folks seem to be just run-of-the-mill casino gamblers, not advantage players. Being anonymous allows them to say what they feel however they feel it. They can even claim knowledge about things they can't possibly have knowledge about.
     
  13. TSC

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    One way to find out if We are for real is man up your 6 team. He'll you get to pick any 6. I just grabbed 90% local guys here in Vegas.

    I figured no posting on the boards would be a good bet. You can see how much SR and HH post. It would kill them to keep silent. Haha. But for HRR, Heavy and others not being able to post for 3 yrs would be just as enjoyable to see on the other side of the fence.

    Of coust all parties would have to agree.
     
  14. Tabletop

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    TSC, I guarantee you that Your Offer will NOT be Accepted! I'm just a Run of the Mill, Make Believe Gambler That has $1,000 to add to the Kitty. Certainly , $1,000 is not enough to gain One's attention, but as a "Sporting Gesture", I'll personally throw it into the Kitty for the Winners. Furthermore, HOW IN THE HELL would Scoblete know if I am an Advantage Player or Not? Frank, I've always had more Mouth, & Heart than Talent. However, that NEVER stopped me from "Freezing Up" the Money! I wouldn't have a problem meeting you at a Venue of your choice to make a small Donation to YOUR Irrepressible Shooting Prowess. Personally, I don't think your toss is Better than mine & I'm willing to Wager that it aint!! Certainly with your SRR of 10.2, "Matching Up" should be No problem for You!! Maybe when you get done touring the Country with your "Ball Game" Adventures, we can Finally meet for a Little Show Down. Don't want any parts of your buddy, "Stickman", but YOU, I can Easily Handle. As your Cousin, the Late Great, Tom Jennings Would say: If you wanna do something, then get your ass up to the Table!
     

  15. Tabletop

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    By the way, this is the SECOND Friendly Challenge that I have Made. The first Challenge was to Irishshitter! When are one of you Guys gonna "Shut" my big Mouth, & take My Money? Better to Donate it to You guys than to the Casinos, Right?
     
  16. Frank Scoblete

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    My challenge days are long gone but I did them in the past. I have those in my new book. I do not go to casinos 130 days a year anymore. I am in a different phase of my life. But I am sure someone will take your challenge if you raise the stakes to 20K or so.

    Send me a private post telling me who you are.
     
  17. SCAN

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    DeMango..... What would you like me to say? I took the time to write a post that I knew many members of the board would be interested in.
    I told you what I discovered. Everything I am going to say about The Captain is in the post. I have no intention, motivation, or desire to debate anyone.
    I suggest you re-read the original post I make my position quite clear.

    I wish you the best
     
  18. Harley

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    Frank Scoblete - "the sides" are real craps players vs. the casinos .... you are either here to help the Dice Community or hinder us in that venture. I will agree that lots of what you have done in the Craps world was a benefit for most Advantage players .... However, you got greedy and the tall tales of the Captain hinder Advantage players and the dice community.

    Frank Scoblete - I am not real ;) ... Come-on Frank, that is not fair to say I am a "make-believe creation" - even you admit to meeting me as you described me in November, 2009 as:

    .... and above

    Frank Scoblete - you are making a very vague statement to defend yourself and you are starting to attack others personally like Heavy does when he has no solid rebuttal to the issue at hand o_O Come-on Frank, I know you are better than Heavy, don't resort to his feeble tactics
     
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  19. Frank Scoblete

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    No personal attacks. Just want to know who's who. The anonymous posters can give me their real names. I won't release them as I have shown with the Captain. But knowing who I am talking with helps me get to know the real person as opposed to the persona.

    I do have a question for Harley: If I write fiction is the scene where you appear fiction as well?
     
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  20. Harley

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    Frank Scoblete - to answer your question, yes and no .... as the diagram illustrates, a good fictional story can include non-fiction - there is an overlap that includes facts .... in the end, if fiction is introduced, the otherwise factual story then becomes exaggerated and is considered fiction

    In 2009 when you wrote about us at Bellagio, there were a lot of facts (like me) in your trip report, but unfortunately you also exaggerated some parts that made your trip report mostly fiction

    BTW, many of my friends call me Harley ... I am even Uncle Harley to a craps playing partner's son that I have known for over a dozen years ... you can call me Harley too ... if you want to know more about me just ask Heavy as he has been stalking me and ran a background check on me ... or you can ask your old business partner Howard Rock n Roller about me - I have broken break with him and his wife several times, tripped up to Mt. Charleston with Howard and even gone womanizing with him
     
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