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Craps The Captain of craps is real

Discussion in 'Craps Forum' started by SCAN, Jun 2, 2015.

  1. Frank Scoblete

    Frank Scoblete Active Member Founding Member

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    I don't know Heavy. I saw him once at a big conference where he was one of the speakers. He was an excellent speaker and quite funny. I have some disagreements with what he teaches in terms of betting. I don't know how or what he teaches on dice control.

    As for the trip report you refer to, unless you were with me the whole time, how can you tell what was exaggerated and what wasn't? Not one thing was exaggerated. Not one thing.

    You will note also that in my new book I Am a Dice Controller: Inside the World of Advantage-Play Craps! I do not in any way diminish Dom's dice control ability. I tell the events straight as I told the event of meeting that kid with the baseball cap that you say is you.

    The fact that Dom turned out to be a crook does not take away from his ability with the dice.

    As for Howard, I write about him truthfully in the book.

    Now, Harley, you have just made an amazing comment in your post and I will quote it: "...ask your old business partner Howard Rock n Roller about me - I have broken break with him and his wife several times, tripped up to Mt. Charleston with Howard and even gone womanizing with him!" [Emphasis and punctuation mine.] So you are saying that you were helping or trying to help Howard cheat on his wife?
     
  2. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    I dont think that Harley said EVERYTHING you have published or written is fiction. You are debating something that isnt even on the table.

    This is not a "gotcha" moment. You have manufactured an accusation that never appeared.
     
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  3. Frank Scoblete

    Frank Scoblete Active Member Founding Member

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    Larry S., only the things you want to be fiction are fiction?
     
  4. dicepunk

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    Not true. I saw the Cap'n at the tables. He even had his crazy dice!

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  5. dicepunk

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    Isn't he related to Abe Froman the sausage king of Chicago?

     
  6. superrick

    superrick Active Member Founding Member

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    When I look at the issue with the Captain I got to laugh. Just look at who holds the world record for the longest roll in craps! That's right one of those damn random rollers that the on-axis craps schools say you should never bet on. Way to funny if you ask me.


    If Frank did retire and is not going to write any more books why does he need to keep the Captain in the forefront of everybody. The Captain did his job and that was to sell Franks books.


    There are a lot of real characters in the craps playing community. Some are real, some are fictional characters that have done more damage then good. You have to ask yourself questions when reading anything in some of the books out on the market and all of the post that are written on the different craps boards.


    One of the questions that keep coming up is there anybody that is taking millions off the craps tables. I and a bunch of others that play craps all of the time say no, unless you are buying in for millions. Does anybody have a SRR or 28 of course not!


    Where does the guys that teach on-axis shooting make all of their money? It's not on the tables, it's from the classes they sell and all of their junk that goes with it!


    Is there a guy in Canada that is taking hundreds of thousands of dollars a year off the craps tables that answer would be no. Because what you are reading with the Madprofessor is nothing but fiction! Are there so-called DI's that can't see the hand writing on the wall about these fiction writers? There are to many to count!


    Do so-called DI's win all of the time,..hell no! Do they get on big rolls like they write about? Sometimes they do just like the so-called random rollers! The one thing these so-called DI's do not do,.. except for a very few is to write about all of the bad rolls they have.


    Yes there are a very few guys that will tell it like it really is, most so-called DI's only play craps a few times a year and live through the postings of others on the DI boards, that is why they eat up all of the fiction.


    Does Frank write nothing but fiction, hell no,..you can see him on the craps tables! That is one of the reasons I've never pushed what he has writing as nothing but fiction. He simply couldn't get away with it! There are to many players that have run into him in the casinos!


    The story of the Captain will always be questioned, because it just doesn't stand up to good reasoning. We are like old women when it comes to talking or writing about a great roll that happened. The same thing goes for shooters that you run into. We have always talked to other shooters that we run into on the tables, it's human nature to do so. You want to see if they have anything they can offer you about how they are shooting and betting the game.


    We are on these boards for the same reason. Although some times it gets out of hand with all of the name calling,. Coming from posters that have never even met the guy they are writing about!


    We all try to keep it civil when it comes to Frank and what he has written in the past, the one thing that he keeps getting called out on is his Captain story and you have to ask yourself why is that, ..could it be that with most craps players that play all of the time, the story just doesn't hold water?
     
  7. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    the HK is a real as the captain and KJ's vagina
     

  8. Tony Baloney

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    The Captain is dead. I researched long and hard on Google. I have proof of the Captain's existence. Busts. They made busts. I found the bust in the Vatican. Here is the bust of The Captain. Amen. Jesus and Mary loved The Captain

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  9. Frank Scoblete

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    Harley, any comment?

    Now, Harley, you have just made an amazing comment in your post and I will quote it: "...ask your old business partner Howard Rock n Roller about me - I have broken break with him and his wife several times, tripped up to Mt. Charleston with Howard and even gone womanizing with him!" [Emphasis and punctuation mine.] So you are saying that you were helping or trying to help Howard cheat on his wife?
     
  10. superrick

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    Why go into what you think a guy is doing that doesn't have anything to do with craps. He didn't see the Captain and that is all we need to know!
     
  11. Frank Scoblete

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    Sorry, Superrick, Harley's veracity is on the line here. He wrote a clear statement. I'd like him to comment on it. I understand you wish to get your friend onto some other thing but this is important. After all, Harley has many comments about me that I have answered in the past year (or so), therefore a comment by him is called for.

    So Harley, once again, any comment?

    Now, Harley, you have just made an amazing comment in your post and I will quote it: "...ask your old business partner Howard Rock n Roller about me - I have broken break [sic] with him and his wife several times, tripped up to Mt. Charleston with Howard and even gone womanizing with him!" [Emphasis and punctuation mine.] So you are saying that you were helping or trying to help Howard cheat on his wife?
     
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  12. Mark V

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    PROOF! The Captain, bigfoot, and Mr Worf Playing craps.

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  13. fish

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    Waiting for Harley's reply.......crickets..........
     
  14. TSC

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    Frank, please define your Womanizing in your book as well as what you are claiming Harley for doing in Womanizing.

    Maybe his womanizing and yours holds a different definition for each.

    Please define? TY

    The definitions of these slang words appear below the list. I mean the word F*ck can have several slang words...

     

  15. fish

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    More sock puppets....
     
  16. Tony Baloney

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    Today is hump day [​IMG]
     
  17. superrick

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    What does Howard have to do with the Captain? They tell me somewhere in your new book you skip around the person you called the womanizer never giving out his name.

    What one person perceives on how someone looks at women does not have anything to do with the Captain -- you are just using a tactic that we see all the time in politics. That is to get off the original subject with a different question or anything that does not have to do with the original subject.

    You can better answer the question with Howard than Harley, you had him as a member of your Craps team to sell the DI concept, then after all these years he is no longer the Babe Ruth's of craps, but just a bunter! Without reading your book, it sounds like a bitter man writing about members of your team that you had problems with.

    The deal with Dom could only be your fault, there is no other way of looking at it. Who in their right mind wouldn't check their credit card statements or bank account every month? I find it hard to believe that you could let something like that happen! You guys must have been making a killing with you GTC school. So we now know where the money really was, not on the tables but in teaching GTC!
     
  18. Frank Scoblete

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  19. LarryS

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    going out with friends to strip bars could be "womanizing". He didnt specifically say he went out "fking".

    women go out to male strip clubs, and men go out to women strip clubs. I dont know what people allow in their marriage...its up to them.

    Is it bad to go out and have sex with other women if your partner allows that kif of relationship??,,,HELL NO...its not for me to judge.

    one mans womanizing, is another mans fking. is another mans lap dance, is another mans BJ.

    "HELPING" someone do the above is only morally wrong if the relationship they have with their partner says its immoral.I dont know that Harley HAS ANY CLUE WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITH HIS ACQUAINTANCES.....and neither do I. wHE JUST DONT KNOW WHAT IS ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED IN ANYONE ELSES RELATIONSHIPS.
     
  20. TSC

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    Lets add it up... $1500-$1900 per student. I heard they averaged 60 students at times HRR told me. Thats $90,000.00 to $114,000.00 and if done 6 times a year, thats $540,000.00 to $684,000.00 for the year before expenses of coaches/partners etc ... and how many years? They say Dom made over a Million... well look at numbers. It didn't come from playing Craps, it came from the workshops. Based off what Eddie told me when he played on a table with Dom and Frank at 'The M' 3-4 years ago, he said Dom Sucked at PARR and neither could shoot well. Eddie, Big Babe Huey had to show him how it done. Thats another story for another day where Dom blew a gasket and he threw chips or something at Eddie and The M security had to escort Dom out.

    You could do classes for 3 years and be set for life. Keyser Soze / The Captain Story . What a concept. Who is Keyser Soze? (The Captain)? He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real (The Captain). Nobody ever saw him (The Captain) or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have worked for Soze. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest Trick The Devil (Frank Scoblete) ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. And like that, poof. He's gone. (The Captain).

    15 years later, after Millions scammed on the story of The Captain where people gravitated towards the game to replicate what he could do. Only to fill the casinos revenue jars of 20% take from craps tables for all the Thousands who hopelessly tried but failed.

    My boy is gonna take pitching lessons from Randy Johnson for a 3 day weekend. They say if he practices he can pitch like him, have a low ErA and WHIP and says my kid has great chance to make the bigs. Lessons are $1900 for the weekend, the rest is up to you. 50-75 teenage kids will be attending. Some of the coaches will be Kurt Schiilling, Mariano Rivera, Dave Riggetti, Nolan Ryan and of course Randy. What a concept.
     
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