Craps The Captain of craps is real

Superrick, Howard was friends with Satch a member of the Captain's crew. He met Satch's wife. He met my wife. There were others. Why keep expounding a falsehood that he didn't meet anyone who knew the Captain? Satch also met hundreds of people in GTC, many of whom asked him questions about the Captain.

As for Howard's name becoming involved, it was Harley who brought him up in an unpleasant way.

 

Here is another person who hooked up with Heavy, and describes these Dice Clubs as as religion.

http://dicedoctor.info/?page_id=359

 

I've posted all kinds of slow-motion videos where once the dice hits the tables they are bouncing all over the place most of those videos were made by the so-called DI's some are nothing but laughable! These same so-called DI's after watching them will still say their dice stay on axis. Way to funny if you ask me! If your any good and you are getting lucky and if you over stay your time on the table, you might get a tap on thee shoulder telling you they do not want your play!

Frank,..lets get something straight, I'm just reporting what Howard told me years ago about the Captain, he may have still been working for you at that time!

Howard was just the messenger and I've ask why is Howard in this thread before, what he does in his personal life has nothing to do with this thread!

You mentioned Vegas Ray, who may have met your Captain, but that still doesn't mean that the roll ever happened. I've had rolls in the 90's I know of guys that had the same kinds of rolls, to me it's no big deal, hell a random roller hold the world record for the longest roll!

These roll below can be proving that they happened:

The previous record, set in Las Vegas, is twenty years old and was over an hourshorter. That had been set by a Honolulu player in Las Vegas.[9]

Both of these shooters were random rollers!

http://www.nextshooter.com/longestroll

Damn how many of us have nothing better to do today then post on this board and others, My excuse is because the EDC is in town and I will not play on full tables!

 

I have known Frank for a long time. At first I, too, had reservations about some of the things he wrote about. How could one person have all those experiences.
As I got to know him better and began doing more with him through Golden Touch, I started to see that he wrote about actual happenings and not "pure fiction" as some have posted here.
There is no doubt in my mind that Frank did, indeed, meet and know the captain. I have seen a picture of the captain and his crew. Frank's stories about the captain, members of his crew, the places they played, the specific events all seemed totally authentic as he related them. The way the stories were told was not like he was spinning a story. He was relaying facts. Even Frank's wife corroborates the incidents in which she was involved.
I do know that every experience of which I was involved that Frank has written about actually happened. None of those incidents are "pure fiction." Some of the incidents definitely appear too strange to be true, but of those I actually witnessed - and there are many - they were reported as accurately as possible.
No doubt some of the posters here will now put me in their vitriolic sights, but I know what I saw and I know what he wrote. Call me a liar if it makes you feel better. That does not change the facts. I feel all a man has while on this earth is his word. The intensity of the ill will and even hate in some of the posts on this thread has forced me to make this post. Based on everything I saw, heard and know, Frank knew the captain. He did not make him up. Frank also knew the other members of his crew. He did not make them up.
Everyone can choose to believe or not, but to attempt to crucify a man who is just trying to enlighten the gambling public because of their non-belief is wrong.

 

Jerry,... what you are writing is just hearsay information and this is all there is to it. We know for sure that Stanley Fujitake of Honolulu, set a record years ago in Las Vegas. Then after that Pat DeMauro set the new world record for the longest craps rolls. Those rolls were well documented, there in no doubt in anybody's minds that those two random rollers set those records. I don't think anybody is trying to crucify Frank, we just want prof of the Captains roll,.. Unfortunately for Frank hearsay evidence will not hold up.

Was there a Captain,..Maybe! Did he have the roll that can't be proving? Only the records of that day many years ago could have proven it when it happened. Now it is just one more story that should for the sake of Frank just go away. He would have been better off if he never wrote about it, because it can't be proven that it happened!

Frank is one of the most prolific writers about gambling, there is no doubt about that. He is a real guy that you can see on the tables, there is only one thing that is in question here and that is the Captains roll. Did it happen, I guess that we will never know for sure. I say no, it didn't happen, I may be wrong and every time it comes up on one of these boards I will question it, trying to get to the bottom of it.

There are plenty of others that question it, so I do not stand alone on the Captains roll, I wish that Frank never wrote about it and question why any author would ever write about something that could not be proven! That one story has put everything that Frank in question, sorry if others can't see that or if they will question that story!

 

Superrick, if all the events I have written about, including the one with your Harley, are accurate and as Stickman says, the experiences we have shared together I reported accurately, why would I make up a whopper? My books are huge sellers; they were huge sellers before that wonderful day with the Captain. That includes all my non-craps books too.

Do you believe that Jerry "Stickman" rolled 77 times before a seven showed? Stickman exists; the Captain exists. But I tell their story. You don't know anyone at that table with Stickman and that is the same situation with the Captain. I reported it. I don't recall anyone at the table with Stickman talking about his amazing roll for years and years after it happened. So is what I wrote about him fiction or fact?

 

Superrick, I don't have the time to follow you from board to board and message group to message group saying the same things when you keep saying the same things. One last time; for the public to know about a roll, the player must give permission --- DeMauro did; the Captain didn't.

 

Frank, You opened up Pandora's Box from the VERY first time that you wrote about the Captain. Certainly, you never envisioned this kind of Backlash, but it is what it is! I think it's quite admirable that your Buddy "Stickman" came to your Defense, but the authenticity of the captain & His Roll/s will forever Be questioned. I do have a question for You! How is it that Dominator was "Dubbed" The Man with the Golden arm, when "Stickman's" toss is CLEARLY Better than Dominator's? Furthermore, I've never read a Negative Comment about this "Stickman" guy, or his Shooting Prowess. Maybe "Stickman" should have been the "Chosen" one to Handle the Monetary affairs of GTC. I know, I know........ Hindsight 20/20!

 

Let me borrow a few words from fish Thomas Morgan aka The Irishsetter Re:

That was my initial impression of Scoblete's new book which I posted on the message board a few weeks back. Now I've had a chance to re-read the book a couple of times and fully digest it. Fortunately, I acquired one of the pre-release copies of the book, gratis. I would have had a SERIOUS case of buyers remorse had I actually paid $24.95 for this 315 page hard cover dog.

My complete review follows.

I read a lot. I spend an hour and a half each work day on a train, so I go through books quickly. In my library, I have probably 40 to 50 books on craps specifically or gambling in general. In all the gambling books I've read, I can unequivocally say that no matter how poorly written or conceived the book was, I've always found some redeeming quality in the book. The Craps Underground is the exception. If a good gambling book is like a delicious filet mignon, this book is more akin to the stuff they feed people on the TV show, Fear Factor.

Let's start with the ENTIRE title of the book. The Craps Underground - The Inside Story of How Dice Controllers Are Winning Millions from the Casinos. Pure, unadulterated hype. For arguments sake, we'll assume that "Millions" means something more than one or two million, ten million would be a reasonable starting point, and it's at least implied that it also means millions in net profit. Last spring, Frank Scoblete estimated that there are fewer than 200 skilled "dice controllers" operating in the US. By doing a little division, that would mean on average, those 200 dice "controllers" are taking down $50,000 in profits, each. Except for a few rather well bankrolled shooters, there is no evidence that the average dice controller is showing that kind of profit. Yes, many dice influencers are consistently profitable but the title alone, and I'll repeat myself here, is unadulterated hype."

..."Let's dive a little further into this drivel. In the early chapters, we get to hear Scoblete wax poetically about "the Captain," again. Yawn.... hasn't he beaten that horse to death yet? Then he introduces various future members of the GTC organization. Apparently, these guys never lose! Or if they do happen to have a poor session, it is quickly followed by a miraculous comeback. AMAZING! There are a couple of chapters on "The Lee Brothers." These two chapters are almost engaging. Except for one thing. OF COURSE "The Lee Brothers" coincidentally have read all of Scoblete's books, and religiously play like the captain. Subtle as a freight train, that Scoblete."

... "Basically, the book in a nutshell is this. 70% of the book is an infomercial for GTC. 20% of the book is various trip reports. Don't worry. The few sessions which aren't profitable for Scoblete? Just read on, a miraculous comeback is in store. The final 10% of the book is the subtle trashing of anyone who is not involved with GTC or a member of the GTC flock. ..."​

 

Tabletop, I wrote about him in my very first book in 1990. Without him, I would have never even thought about writing gambling books.

The few people who go after me on these boards are a few drops in an ocean of readers. The only thing that bothers me about the posts is the consistent rehash of the same things even after I've answered them. I have so many people who have met and played with the Captain; I have quoted published information in my book. I have told everyone the fact that Satch, a former teacher in GTC, was the youngest member of the Crew and he spoke to hundreds of people during the classes.

But what can you do? My wife has given me good counsel, which I foolishly ignored.

 

Harley, you can write reviews; you can rant and rage but one thing stands out to anyone reading this whole thread: You threw your friend under the bus. You said awful things about him and you may have seriously hurt your friend's marriage. You won't apologize to him; you won't say that you lied about what you claim he did. You wrote fiction and now want us to believe that the awful things you accused your friend of doing are true.

 

Mr Scoblete.

Harley mentioned the man and "womanizing:" which can mean anything from flirting with women over drinks, to actual sex. He mentioned it once, and you have referenced it maybe a dozen times. Its you that is bashing this man into the ground as a "womanizer" by your constant reference.

On the one hand you feign horror that Harley could THROW SOMEONE "UNDER THE BUS"...but then you take over control of the bus and run over the poor man over and over, Backing up over him, and then running him over again and again

 

Agreed, LarryS! Surely this thread has run it's Course. No sense in Resurrecting the Dead, Huh?

 

no, not "resurrecting the dead"
more like .......no sense being a hypocrite.

You know being horrified that someone would be called a womanizer,,,,yet repeating the reference over and over so that the maximum people get to read it.

 

So I am at fault for what Harley did? Instead of defending him, why not just say, "Harley, apologize."

 

Larry S and Tabletop are right: I should never have let my disgust with Harley's posts change how I handle these message boards. I was upset by his posts, not about me but about his friend. I'll stop jumping on him for what he did and stick to gambling ideas and such.

Thank you Larry S and Tabletop.

 

Frank

The Captain's 188 roll, do you know when and where this took place. Someone quoted it was in one of your books I can't find it.

 

Hi Pressit, 147. Yes I was there.

 

Frank, You must understand that MOST people will Always Discredit what you Write. The reason? They feel that YOU & GTC made it harder for DI'ng to Thrive. Look at all of the Counter Measures that the Casinos are currently employing these Days. Now, Frank, I won't Hold you Personally responsible(MOST will) for exposing Dice Influencing, But Had I found a Toss/s that gave me an Edge........ Better believe that I wouldn't have told a Soul. I would have just QUIETLY continued to Print $$$$$!!! Good luck in your future Endeavors.

 

Thank you.