Roulette Outside the BOX

Thanks Eddy, appreciate the information. After a few quick tests, it appears I would have missed some very profitable spots early in the next cycle.

 

I Will be testing your way of betting, i Hope we all find a best way to make a decent profit

 

You're welcome pal

 

That's why we are here, hope it brings some decent returns for you too.

 

Trying changing sock colors after 38 spins and standing on one leg. That shows great returns.

 

That double hit on 29 at spin 143 was so big, it basically paid for the next 60 spins worth of attempts. Brilliant Eddy.

 

Eddy's session but using 1-2-4-8-16-32 as the progression.

He never went past the fifth level of the progression (8u for his, 16u for mine), so they're relatively similar. I could imagine seeing multiple 32u bets on the table as being tough for some to stomach, will test it with both progressions and see if the more aggressive one adds too much risk.

And he's right, you definitely want to leave numbers that have hit expectation in whatever cycle it happens live at the last progression point until the end of that cycle, lot of extra bonus hits that propel things higher that otherwise would be missed if you're removing the bet at the exact spin the number reaches EV.

 

Very similar chart, nice job Mako.

 

What also maybe an option to keep the bets low but reaching for more hits on the same number in the same cycle as when the number has reached his average point, is to reduce the current bet to 1 again.
so when you have a bet of let's say 8 chips on a number and the last hit made sure the number is returned to it's AV again. instead of leaving all those chips on for the rest of the cycle, you can reduce it to one unit again.
This way, you are building in an insurance to reduce the costs in that number alone when it don't hit anymore for the remaining spins in that cycle, but also hit units in return when it does hit again. So a win win situation.

just a thought.
cheers.

 

You're always sharp with inventing progressions Eddy, I remember one you created one a long time ago for a Single Dozen system from Palestis, it similarly was the best way to approach that method as this one likely is the best way to play as well.

 

Well i tried and after i lost few sessions i tried a variant and came barefoot... I think they detected i had the grail, they didn't want me to come in!

 

In the US you can’t come barefoot into a casino and there is a very specific combination of the color of sock and which leg you’re standing on to find success. I can’t disclose it here, but choosing the right sock color and the right leg makes the difference. For the grail, there is a hint in what I’m saying (‘right’ ...shhhhh, don’t tell anyone).

 

Did a test run of Eddy's version on a specific spin set that I know to be difficult, as the awoken unhits land at less than EV over the span of the entire 230 spins.

If this is how it handles a -EV situation I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how it does with +EV spin sets...

 

Wow over a whole 230 spins huh? That must be statistically relevant, right?

Why not look for statistical significance of just 16 spins like Notto does? Or better yet, just one spin?

 

Agreed, he should have at least gotten to 231 so a serious conversation could have been had....

 

No more like a million spins.

 

yeah, that was a long time ago indeed. never lost with it, only it was a drag of playing. but a secure bet it was. good old days.

 

Nice one pal

 

Ok, to roundup the rules so everyone can test it.

Cycle 1: 1-37
Tracking fase.
At the of the first cycle we take not of all the numbers that didn't hit.
Cycle 2: 38-74
Betting fase1.
Once one of the unhit numbers shows, we start betting on it, not sooner.
In this cycle, no progression is used.
At the end of this cycle, we look wich of our unhit numbers have hit twice or more.
All these numbers will be removed from our betting list (they have returned to their average point, or performed above it).
Cycle 3: 75-111
Betting fase 2.
All of our unhit numbers that have only showed 1 time in the previous cycle will be played further in thia cycle.
To reach their average point, they now have to hit 3 times in total (not 3 times in this cycle) to get them back to their average point. They showed up 1 time in cycle 2, so need to hit two more times in this cycle to get them home.
A progression of 1 step will be used (1-2)
They all still have 1 chip on them, so the next hit we wil placing 2 chips.
When more unhits from our list shows up for the first time in this cycle (cycle 3) they will also need 2 more hits, to get them home, a total of 3 hits.
At the end of this cycle, we look wich of our unhit numbers have hit 3 times or more.
All these numbers will be removed from our betting list (they have returned to their average point, or performed above it)
Cycle 4: 112-148
Betting fase 3.
In this cycle, our unhit numbers that are still left, will need a total of 4 hits, to get back to their average point. If they pop up in here for the first time, they need to hit 4 times in this cycle to be able to be removed from our betting list.
If unhits hit again wich have also been hit in previous cycle, we look how many hits they already got, and how many hits they still need to a total of 4.
Cycle 5: 149-185
all unhits that are still below their average point now need a total of 5 hits to close their session.

We continue this process until either we have a new high, or when we have reached a nice enough profit to go home with.
If you want to start over, just retrack the last 37 spins, and take a note of all the numbers that have failed to show, and start again with those.
Remember, when a number has reached their average point in a cycle, we only remove them when the cyle is over, not sooner! this is very important.
There maybe aditional hits on this number in this cycle.
We don't raise our bets anymore when a number hits agaim after it's average point is reached, we keep the same amount until the cycle is over or if you like we bring the chip amount back to 1 and proceed from there.

i hope this clears up what we are doin' over here. if there are any questions left, don't hasitate to ask.

have a great day,
cheers,
Eddy

 

Perfectly witten, i Wish You a succes with this because You deserve IT...the same for frodo, Mako...And others