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Roulette Any professional roulette players here?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Mantronix, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. Fivealive

    Fivealive Active Member

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    Afternoon Mansi.

    No dont have alot on my phone. Only transcribed some to memo to save. Past history was documented in notepads
    But im curently doing a breakdown of patterns of behavior mate.

    Like I said there are two constants that have never been broken in 23k plus games.

    10 wins in 18 games. And 11 wins in 20.

    And 5 or less wins in the first half. Means 6 or more in the second half and that can flip vice versa.

    Thats your signal to throw down some coin.

    Then theres at least one streak of 3 wins in every 20 games. Thats happened so often. The few times it hasnt dont even matter. Are you getting what im saying here Mansi. These are constants uneffected by all the games downturns.

    Thats why I knew I will win and make my life from this game. So simple. But so hard to grasp by so many. They cant get by the layout. Fresh thinking brought me greatness Mansi.

    Follow what im showing you it will change your life.
     
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  2. mansi19896

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    im totally getting you, i dont know how many thousands i have played already, but i get same numbers you tell here. But im struggling . i always happen to bet when it looses,so it take so lot of time for me to get back. This is something i hope to turn around to make it smoother.
     
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    You bet when it loses yet you know its going to win my friend. If I walk into a casino. And I see 6 reds do you think I would have utter faith in black coming in the next 4 to 6 spins.

    Do you think I would stake my life on it??? Absolutely not. Would I be prepared to take that risk on getting at least 5 wins out of 10 with FIVE? Absolutely yes.

    Mansi this is the only thing I would be willing to take that risk with. So you arent even risking real money yet. So on paper take the risk of raising knowing you are going to get that minimum split of 5/5 well over 100/1.

    I have gone so long without seeing a 4/6 split mansi. When I see the next one it will mean nothing. 40 to 60 units lost compared to several thousand made.

    Its a wonderful trade. I wish more people had an open mind Mansi. The mystery of the game can be broken wide open when you do. The masses just keep believing the myths. And no advance is ever made.

    Believe in the power of FIVE my friend. And watch the rewards that will come.
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

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    +Caution is advised . Handle with care .Obtain all the facts .



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  5. mansi19896

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    good day :)
    well question is not about wins, you always get 5 or over 10 wins without any issues, question is just when to jump in the train at right time.
     
  6. Fivealive

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    Afternoon Mansi

    Thats exactly my point you know the breakdown is coming. So stake accordingly. Im going to put my last 100 sets on here throughout this week.

    One of them gave me this in the first 10 games.





    ○--




    ○--

    You see I was getting hammered in the first 5 games. Only one win. Then 4 straight winners in the second half to recover.

    Then Mansi because I only had 5 wins out of 10 in the first 10 games. I took up the stakes in the second half. And had this result.





    ●--
    ●--10TH WIN GAME 16



    ●--(SPLIT 12/8)

    That was a poor set Mansi. And I still made 6 units profit. Because I through experience knew what was coming. And like clockwork it delivered
     
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  7. mansi19896

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    thats quite high amount of units eigth to stake second half, only 2 wins of it would had recovered all, why you decided to continue to risk til 10 win ? but its excellent example still by you sharing it, great job of winning it.
    my version would had finished this 100 at minus 5 and thats why i have got these results like i described last week
     

  8. Fivealive

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    Mansi

    What im I trying do is instill a different way of thinking in you. When you know something is close to certain to happen. Your fear subsides. When you have a constant the game changes. I had no fear to raise to what it took to recover the innitial losses. Because ive seen this comeback so often. This rebalance within a short time frame. That is the power of FIVE.

    Its was expected Mansi not hoped for. Do you understand my point?

    Just like martingale agaist step 1. Its never failed me. Its so much stronger than martingale against the layout.

    The layout was designed to sucker fools in. They win 50. 100 maybe even a 1000 times. And then comes the streak that undoes all that effort.

    Thats what keeps the people of the math. So adamant. Nobody is coming out the other end of this game a longterm winner. But theyve never seen anything like FIVE Mansi.

    It takes this game apart literally. Straining variance into submission.
     
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  9. mansi19896

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    what if you had session like this lwlwlwwwww wlwlw would you stop here with 10 win at negative session or continue
     
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    I alway stop at the tenth win Mansi. Theres no going beyond the 10th win. What I would have done in that example is raise for the 10th win.

    Over 95% of 10th wins come by the 16th game Mansi. So I would press for it.

    Also remember this I have 4 to 6 bets running in a 20 game set. All monies do not come from Just FIVE.

    Martingale against step 1 is always in play.
    Martingale against step 2+ is always in play
    Betting for a win streak of at least 3 is always in play.

    And 10 in 18 is always in play. These string of bets all work together to increase my fighting funds Mansi.
     
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  11. Nathan Detroit

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    big money ,


    Glad you liked those 22 numbers . They are from a publication by Brett Morton.




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  12. mansi19896

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    the steps1-2 are too rare and high risk in my opinion, but whats that last one with win streak of atleast 3
     
  13. Fivealive

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    Morning Mansi

    They are not rare at all you will get 3 to 5 betting oppurtunities every 20 game set.

    Betting for 3 is pretty straight forward.

    You have.




    And you bet it becomes





    I have never failed to have at least one of these or longer in a 20 game set. And you rarely take longer than three attempts to nail one. It may be the strongest of all the side bets that take place within that 20 game framework.

    They say nobody knows the future. But when youve seen something happen over 23,000 times in a row. You start to question that.
     
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    morning morning :)
    so basically after 2 wins you go for that 1 win with progression, is this correct?

    what concerns about step 1 and 2 i may still misunderstood. i have seen 5 losses easily to come with it, because basically you do same pattern 5 times to hit, and after every five who knows what may come, its like complete restart using with one pattern only what was left. Thats why i feel its risky and maybe not that worth it :O
     

  15. Fivealive

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    Believe me its worth it Mansi.

    Remember i have over 23k results. And 10 has never been broken

    Five is a standard run. I personally come in after 2 step ones in a row. Or two step 2 plus in a row.

    And a streak of 8 step ones in a row is the longest I have in all these years. Most streaks dont get past 6. So even if you had a limited marty of 31 units. Coming in after 2 you would rarely lose it.

    This is far more stable than waiting for 3 or 4 reds or blacks. Just this morning there was a streak of 11 blacks on WH. And some idiots were crying the wheels rigged.

    They have no idea what variance and random be doing on its hot times. But in the framework of FIVE. Theres no such thing as a streak of 14 plus like you could get off the layout. I saw 17 reds this sunday. Gone off the layout. Never ever will that happen with FIVE.
     
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    but with this 1 win after 2 wins in 20 set, do you take only 1 win or every time opportunity comes til 10 win ?
     
  17. Fivealive

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    Mmm dont think youre with me here.

    05--STEP 1 WIN

    10--STEP 1 WIN

    15--BET AGAINST STEP 1

    Right matey in the example up there. On game 5 step 1 won. On game 10 it won. From game 15. I start my campaign to get a win in a maximum of 6 attempts.

    1-2-4-8-16-32

    Dont have the exact numbers. But I know that progression has only lost 5 times. Vs thousands of wins. If you stretch it an extra step its never lost my friend.

    You tell me who can tell you in thousands of games theyve never seen 9 reds or blacks?

    There aint anything like FIVE. It decodes the game and knocks out the math.
     
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  18. mansi19896

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    i just in case have to ask this through, that example 1 here is against last pattern and second example with it ?
    so in example in 20 game it should be against R ? and example 2 game 20 you bet B
    This is where it goes confusing - Do you have to bet with last pattern like with FIVE or when you see second B is happening so you bet that B in game 20 example 2 ?

    For example our trigger pattern is BR and we have to bet opposite and our next session is BB B and now only after first pattern its second B and we have to bet against R. which is B?
    what i did was just looking last pattern thats left. Maybe i did wrong :O
     
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    Wait... so after 2 wins you have to do progression to loose instead ? so you wont get 3 wins in a row.. this little bit doesnt make sense :S
     
  20. Fivealive

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    Yes Mansi

    You are bettting against step 1 continuing its run.

    And when you have 2 none step 1 results in a row. Like

    05--STEP 2

    10--LOST

    15--Signal to bet for a STEP 1 WIN.

    Its as simple as getting two reds or two blacks on the layout. But not so simple for variance to extend that streak beyond 6 very often. Thats the power.

    To give you some idea. I havent lost my progression for 412 bets now. My longest win streak is 957. My shortest 114. For a 31 unit risk thats pretty special. And as I said extend that to 1-2-4-8-16-32-64=125 units. And I still would not have lost it after thousands of games.
     
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