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Roulette My question to Gizmotron and all pattern/trend players

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by albalaha, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Now , what is the issue with Kimo Li ? *Is he still around ?
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I was trying to explain sliced sections of the wheel as being magical thinking if you believe that it is better for fallacies. I use them because I already had them memorized. You can make up any sets that make up unique groups that you want. You just chart one side and the opposite side that makes up a full grouping. My personal pet groups are based on sections of the wheel in two groups and a group that is based on superstition called the specials. The deal is to find the group that if betting on the hitting set would result in a win streak. Because you can see hits in the chart as formations or repeating patterns then they show you if they were a win streak if it continues. The actual Kimo Li sets and groups would work just fine for trend hunters. I just don't have them memorized because there was no reason to memorize them when already having my own magical sets. But I just published the magical sets for communication clarity. If you are really interested I think you can still buy his books online.
     
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  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Nope, impossible to "predict" a known pattern as it's happening and exploit it in a random game.
    SMH. Glad I barely post anymore. Nope, no patterns. Nope, can't see them happening and bet on their completion.
    As the great "Wolfgang" said, it's all such an illusion.


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  4. soxfan

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    Bbbbbbbbbbbbbwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, the turbo-genius is back and postin up graphs, hey hey.
     
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  5. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Look at those draw-downs!! Fuck me, 1200 units jesus wept...
     
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  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Someone start a stop watch and track how much of my time you plan on wasting.
    I thought "we" were knowledgeable about roulette here but I guess I have to explain the
    simple things.

    It's flat betting only.
    $25.00 per bet (again, flat betting only)... are you keeping up ?

    max drawdown vs end result from charts I posted :
    $775.00 - profit $1,350.00
    $1,325.00 - profit $1,925.00
    $400.00 - profit $2,100.00
    $1,050.00 - profit $1,800.00

    That's a grand total of $1,325.00 drawdown max with $7,175.00 profit
    (or if you'd like we won 5 1/2 bankrolls in 4 sessions which is amazing)

    Of course you can't understand this because you think 1200 units ( ?? ) is terrible
    when you walk out with +7k profit - and it's actually 53 UNITS drawdown MAX.
    Do you understand what a UNIT is ? You clearly don't because you claim I was down
    1200 units while you didn't know the chip size - so obviously you can't know the amount
    of UNITS a drawdown is then can you ?
    Jesus wept because you are ignorant and this is exactly why people like me won't waste
    their time posting anymore.

    How easy would it have been to say "wow, only 53 units drawdown for 4 long sessions
    of live play and 7k+ profit ! Good job."

    But no, you are your cronies are idiots and you're wasting my time, I'll continue to win
    while others can quote non-gamblers who say patterns can't work.
    Ok, stop the stop watch - how much time does this idiot owe me.
     
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  7. soxfan

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    Little wonder that the casino suits in AC paid the turbo-genius to stay out of their joints, hey hey.
     
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  8. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Why do ya then, you were exposed as a joke over 10 years ago from my recollection. You and your body guards, LOL.
     
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  9. TurboGenius

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    Oh goodness ! Please post a link to this "exposed" event - would you ?
    I usually took security with me to AC - not so much at Parx in PA now as it isn't really required.
    But since you're making up stories, I'm sure you can back them up - correct ?
    No ? Oh it's just your recollection. Lol.
    If you're going to be a troll, at least put a tiny bit of effort into it.
    Making up stories and related nonsense is such a waste of time - or at least make up a better
    story...take a few minutes and post something really amazing about me that never happened.....
    Have no fear - your misfit group will give you "likes" for it, regardless of how believable it is.
     
  10. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
    What like winning a million dollar by the month May. Security LOL, get screwed you odious cretinous lump of shite.
     
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  11. TurboGenius

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    The juvenile reply I expected, avoid anything that backs up your nonsense and keep insulting.
    Being a keyboard ranger is fun I guess.
    Enough time wasted - enjoy your winning (or not winning, whichever story makes you happy).
    Cheers.
     
  12. Junket King

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    There are enough retards on the planet, we don't need any more!
     
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    Johno, if I understand, you play outside bets on roulette, like are RED/BLACK, so why do you care about Turbogenius posts and graphs, which represent inside bets???

    Same question is for others!!!

    And the worst is to read comments from people who even NOT PLAY roulette at all!!! (who is retard in this case???)


    Guys, you continue play outside bets (even chances), and winners Will continue play ONLY inside bets ;)
     
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  14. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    You for resurrecting this thread.
     
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    Hola, genio de Turbo, es una muy buena noticia verte de vuelta.
    Con respecto a la forma en que ves el juego, quiso decir que has hecho un muy buen trabajo y es por eso que tienes la gran recompensa de poder ganar y con cosas que son realmente fáciles de entender.
    Pero estaba viendo algo que dijiste sobre los patrones que ocurren todo el tiempo y que solo esperas a que llegue al final del rompecabezas para completarlo, por así decirlo, estoy interesado en aprender todo sobre el juego, ya estudié tu forma, estudié vaddis, estudié dyksexlic, pero no me canso de estudiar y aprender porque realmente me gusta.
    ¿Podría darme algunas ideas sobre esos patrones de los que estaba hablando?
    O podría ponerme en contacto con usted para explicarle un poco sobre estos patrones, confío plenamente en usted y sé que usted es y será uno de los grandes descubridores de ganar el juego de manera simple y lógica.
    Estaría agradecido si pudiera abrir un poco los ojos sobre este tema, porque los patrones se pueden dar de muchas maneras y me gustaría saber si se trata de la repetición de un patrón o si el patrón es diferente, como por ejemplo en el ejemplo de Ha pasado mucho tiempo desde que diste sobre las docenas, imagina que los patrones que hablas tienen algo que ver con eso, pero estoy seguro de que hablas de otros patrones mucho mejores.
    Bueno, si fuiste tan amable, todo lo que me das ideas o me ayudas a seguir trabajando está muy agradecido por mi parte, un saludo y me alegro de que hayas vuelto, se necesita mucha gente como tú, con tu experiencia y generosidad generosa. tantas pistas siempre !!!
     
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  16. gizmotron

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    Translated:
    By coincidence I gave up on dozens two years ago. I'm all about patterns and would love to hear from Turbo his concepts on trends and patterns.

    As far as betting the outside only on the EC's there are three groups and 6 sets to chose from. If you can manage to get 3 net wins from these groups per day then you could bet at $1,000 per bet, $3,000 per day, play 20 days per month at $60,000 per month. That should be enough for any self controlled greedy person. It's just about 3/4 million a year.

    The point is that all of you should be able to win 3 net wins and leave. It's well within the range of cyclical variance for even chance bets that have a slight house advantage. But teaching you to target or hunt common trends and patterns is even easier. That is my task. This thread is not about the successful destruction of the conversation by hating someone. That's an obvious pattern too. The topic is questions about patterns and trends.

    My challenge to players is that I think you can learn and gain experience using my "moving average," support & resistance, values of 3 net wins / 7 net losses for changing the known mathematical beliefs. You guys do want to win don't you? If I can teach you then it will be your skill and therefore be the proof that you need. The resurrection of this thread is not a bad thing. Those that want to be left behind can ignore it. The challenge is to teach first try bets that are 50 /50 in odds and extending winnings that are gathered after the first wins. There are some people that believe that all first bets on trends all lose. If you win a first bet then all bets after that on the trend are a free ride.

    So you need to know when to get off the streak. I've explained this. You take winners while your guessing is in a win streak. Seeing patterns and the quality of them is one thing. But knowing good strategy is another. I can't hand anyone experience. But I can guide them and help them to avoid mistakes.

    Looking forward to Turbo's wisdom on patterns and trends. I always thought he was about rule based progressions and mechanical systems. This is a side I had no idea that existed.
     
  17. Junket King

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    True, if my bet selection put me on say a Bank at 2u, I win and the shoe looks streaky, simply reduce the bet amount to 1u and continue. It ain't rocket science.

    No need to get off anything, nobody know when something will end and if your up, who cares, you're only going to lose the last bet. Gambling basics 101.
     
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  18. gizmotron

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    I agree with both of your points. I'm known by now as a minimalist. I took these three net win suggestions because of self control issues. I also know that three net wins is almost always achievable. I know that swarms of first try bets occur. So I limit losses. This is all about self control and having enough to enjoy it.

    That first comment was a two step "Up & Pull." It does make sense too. No matter what happens on the second try and further tried bets you are guaranteed at least one.
     
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    Whats up with the stretches of not playing? Your other graphs you bet every spin...or have changed systems...again
     
  20. gizmotron

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    It is an illusion, I mean the pattern or long series I can clearly see. You can win every time the illusion continues. You don't need prediction. All I need is bet selection and conditional awareness. I am so glad that you can't use illusions as bet selections. You will always be the system builder. I like it that you "barely post anymore."
     
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